YoungTexanFan's VERY early Big Board

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  1. YoungTexanFan

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    Here is my first big board of the draft season. Yes, it is early, not even the new year yet, but I released a big board about this time last year as well. I won't be doing an actual mock draft yet, but this took a lot of effort. There are some surprises, and you can quickly see who I like and who I don't like. Ask me questions about these guys, I feel pretty good about this initial big board.

    Also, I'm aware that I suck at life and everything that goes with it since I left off Player X or Player Y that you just love, but I only ranked the top 80 players in my opinion...sooo get over it or make your own big board. :)

    Also, THIS IS NOT A TEXANS big board. This is a BPA big board. This is where I feel their talent and production grades them out at this point in December.

    Feel free to disect it and point out my mistakes, as I know you all will. I did this because I promised I would...and I feel bad that Beerlover is putting out mocks and I'm doing nothing for yall.


    YoungTexanFan's Very Early Big Board
    1. Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
    2. James Laurinitis, LB, Ohio St.
    3. Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.
    4. Calais Campbell, DE, Miami
    5. Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
    6. Chris Long, DE, Virginia
    7. Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
    8. Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St.
    9. Sam Baker, OT, USC
    10. Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
    11. Rasheed Mendenhall, RB, Illinios
    12. James Hardey, WR, Indiana
    13. Vernon Gholston, DE, Ohio St.
    14. Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
    15. Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
    16. Brian Brohm, QB, Louisville
    17. Aqib Talib, DB, Kansas
    18. Malcolm Kelly, WR, Oklahoma
    19. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
    20. Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma St.
    21. Chris Ellis, DE, Virginia Tech
    22. Jeff Otah, OT, Pitt
    23. Matt Ryan, QB, Boston College
    24. Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma
    25. Keith Rivers, LB, USC
    26. Dan Connor, LB, Penn St.
    27. Steve Justice, C, Wake Forest
    28. Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
    29. Fred Davis, TE, USC
    29. Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
    30. Andre Woodson, QB, Kentucky
    31. Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
    32. Michael Oher, OG, Ole Miss
    33. Martin Rucker, TE, Missouri
    34. Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
    35. Early Doucet, WR, LSU
    36. Justin King, CB, Penn St.
    37. Tony Hills, OT, Texas
    38. Jake Long, OT, Michigan
    39. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St.
    40. DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
    41. Maurice Purify, WR, Nebraska
    42. Craig Steltz, S, LSU
    43. Peyton Hills, FB, Arkansas
    44. Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
    45. Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon St.
    46. Brian Johnston DE, Garnder-Webb
    47. Tommy Blake, DE, TCU
    48. Vince Hall, MLB, Virginia Tech
    49. Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
    50. Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech
    51. Terrell Thomas, DB, USC
    52. Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
    53. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia
    54. Derrick Harvey, DE, Florida
    55. Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia
    56. Quentin Groves, DE, Auburn
    57. Ali Highsmith, LB, LSU
    58. Erik Ainge, QB, Tennessee,
    59. Red Bryant, DT, Texas AM
    60. Phillip Wheeler, ILB, Georgia tech
    61. Jordy Nelson, WR, Kansas St.
    62. Josh Johnson, QB, San Diego
    63. Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
    64. Demario Pressley, DT, NC St.
    65. Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
    66. Brandon McAnderson, FB, Kansas
    67. Dennis Dixon, QB, Oregon
    68. Chris Williams, OT, Vanderbilt
    69. DeSean Jackson, WR, Cal
    70. Josh Barrett, S, Arizona St.
    71. Leodis McKelvin, CB, Troy
    72. Heath Benedict OL, Newberry
    73. Mike Byrne, OT, Delaware
    74. Dre Moore, DT, Maryland
    75. Colt Brennan, QB, Hawaii
    76. Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
    77. Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose St.
    78. Jonathan Hefney, S, Tennessee
    79. Tracy Porter, CB, Indiana
    80. Mike Dragosivich, P, North Dakota St.
     
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  2. J-Russ

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    Oh boy! Jake Long isn't in the top 80?

    Maybe he could fall to us in the 5th round? steeeal.

    EDIT: D'oh. Just notice, hes number 38.

    Seriously, how many people have this guy out of their top ten player's rankings?
     
  3. kiwitexansfan

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    Thanks for the Big Board, the effort is appreciated… and don’t sweat it not everyone is a draft machine like Beerlover.

    As for this being a BPA board not a Texans board, I would like to think they are one and the same. The only positions I feel we are set at is MLB, and even then there are those who would be happy to shift Demeco outside.

    I have issue with McFadden being your number 1, skill position player especially RB are overrated. Take AD vs Joe Thomas, both have proven to be elite players but which one is harder to replace, I would say Joe Thomas because Joe Thomas makes runners look like AD.

    Other than that I don’t know much about individual talents so I will find your board educational, thanks again for the effort.
     
  4. brakos82

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    There are commas missing at 46 and 72. :shades:
     
  5. Honoring Earl 34

    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    It's your board do as you like .

    I like James Laurinitis very productive player .

    I agree that there's really not any great QB prospects .

    I think some guys are more media hype than anything else and whoever makes a board has to try to figure out who's the real deal . Maybe that's why Jake Long slid .
     
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    these overall rankings have nothing to do with value relative to their position, i imagine.
     
  7. YoungTexanFan

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    This is true. I would have drafted Joe Thomas in a heartbeat over Peterson last year, and still would knowing what they both did this year. However, I had Peterson ranked higher than Thomas based on talent alone. Peterson was my #2 prospect, just behind Calvin Johnson.
     
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    This is exactly why Long slid. He has so much hype going for him that he doesn't deserve. All I see in Long is a glorified Todd Wade.
     
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    I have bolded a few interesting things and added some notes. I'm bored, so I'm trying to get some discussion going.


    I really wanted to add Duke Robinson, who would be in the 30's probably, but I don't think he is going to declare.
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    Some guys the Texans might like from YTF's board .

    1. Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
    2. James Laurinitis, LB, Ohio St. - Better than Hawk, and the closest thing to Urlacher in a while.
    3. Ryan Clady, OT, Boise St.
    7. Kenny Phillips, S, Miami
    8. Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio St.
    9. Sam Baker, OT, USC
    11. Rasheed Mendenhall, RB, Illinios
    15. Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas
    17. Aqib Talib, DB, Kansas
    19. Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
    22. Jeff Otah, OT, Pitt - I'm warming up to him.
    24. Reggie Smith, DB, Oklahoma
    25. Keith Rivers, LB, USC
    26. Dan Connor, LB, Penn St.
    27. Steve Justice, C, Wake Forest
    28. Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon - Who else has him this low?
    29. Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
    32. Michael Oher, OG, Ole Miss
    34. Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College
    36. Justin King, CB, Penn St. - many people project him higher, I think he is overrated.
    37. Tony Hills, OT, Texas - Good ZBS LT, but solid OT regardless.
    38. Jake Long, OT, Michigan - Pure crap. I hated putting him this high.
    39. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, CB, Tennessee St.
    40. DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
    42. Craig Steltz, S, LSU
    43. Peyton Hills, FB, Arkansas
    44. Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
    45. Roy Schuening, OG, Oregon St.
    47. Tommy Blake, DE, TCU
    48. Vince Hall, MLB, Virginia Tech
    49. Trae Williams, CB, South Florida
    50. Xavier Adibi, OLB, Virginia Tech
    51. Terrell Thomas, DB, USC
    52. Matt Forte, RB, Tulane
    53. Owen Schmitt, FB, West Virginia

    I'm for the following .

    1st . LT
    3rd . CB/RB
    4th . RB/CB
    5th . BPA
    6th . BPA
    7th . BPA
     
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    I wouldn't mind Harvey as a RDE/Speed rusher.
     
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    Positive rep your way. Good job.
     
  13. kiwitexansfan

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    If the Laurinitis kid is there, and he is that good, do you really think the Texans take him??

    As for the speed rusher, you don't have to sell that one to me, I might be one of the only guys who would not complain about going DL yet again.

    Good teams need dominant lines.
     
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    Honoring Earl 34 Hey Koolaid

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    What about this guy ?

    Shawn Crable LB, #2
    Ht/Wt: 6-5, 243 Hometown: Massillon, Oh

    As far as a guy who can drop down on passing downs or play OLB .
     
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    I just don't think he is much at Michigan, nor do I think he will be anything in the NFL. Definitly not a top 80 player IMO.
     
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    Jake Long: overrated, but nowhere near as long as some are labeling. should be a very good RT in the NFL.
     
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    The guy is very good playing hurt. When he is not hurt, he is exceptional.
    He won't get out of the top five. You can have bench load of stiffs at Dt. But if you got one guy like Okoye or Dorsey bringing heat and mayhem from the middlle... you pay for that. Guy playing hurt didn't drop Dorsey on anyones board.


    I think your ranking is spot on. I also believe he is very simular to Bowe last year and Monk this year. There should be a lot of Wrs on the board. That'll push the group as whole down. Vincent gets his play maker(s) this year. Wr's should be plentiful and cheap.
    Sweed needs to learn just as Bowe did this season. There is no doubt the Texas offense suffered with the loss of Sweed this season. Might be coincidence.
     
  18. YoungTexanFan

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    I don't know about very good, but he will be a solid RT. However, he will be drafted and payed as a LT initially, and that will not work out. I will laugh.
     
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    I think Dorsey is a great DT prospect, but he is a different animal than Okoye. Dorsey is so strong at the POA, he doesn't lose ground. He isn't as explosive as Okoye or a young Sapp. Dorsey also does not have the ability to get after the passer like a a DT ranked that highly. People are comparing him to a young Sapp? No. He will be a pretty good DT, don't get me wrong, but not in the same mold as Sapp. Dorsey is a great run stuffer and a guy that can help step up someone elses play. I would still take Okoye though. Okoye is 20, Dorsey is 22, and Okoye is better than Dorsey now, with much more upside. Both will be very good DT's, but Okoye, playing next to Mario, will be a bigger impact and better player.
     
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    Same thing- just sorted by position

    # Quarterbacks Pos College
    16 Brian Brohm QB Louisville
    23 Matt Ryan QB Boston College
    30 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
    58 Erik Ainge QB Tennessee
    62 Josh Johnson QB San Diego
    67 Dennis Dixon QB Oregon
    75 Colt Brennan QB Hawaii
    # Running Backs Pos College
    1 Darren McFadden RB Arkansas
    11 Rasheed Mendenhall RB Illinios
    15 Felix Jones RB Arkansas
    28 Jonathan Stewart RB Oregon
    43 Peyton Hills FB Arkansas
    52 Matt Forte RB Tulane
    53 Owen Schmitt FB West Virginia
    55 Steve Slaton RB West Virginia
    63 Mike Hart RB Michigan
    66 Brandon McAnderson FB Kansas
    # Wide Receivers Pos College
    12 James Hardey WR Indiana
    14 Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
    18 Malcolm Kelly WR Oklahoma
    20 Adarius Bowman WR Oklahoma St
    35 Early Doucet WR LSU
    41 Maurice Purify WR Nebraska
    61 Jordy Nelson WR Kansas St
    65 Limas Sweed WR Texas
    69 DeSean Jackson WR Cal
    76 Harry Douglas WR Louisville
    # Tight Ends Pos College
    29 Fred Davis TE USC
    33 Martin Rucker TE Missouri
    # Offensive Line Pos College
    3 Ryan Clady OT Boise St
    9 Sam Baker OT USC
    22 Jeff Otah OT Pitt
    27 Steve Justice OC Wake Forest
    32 Michael Oher OG Ole Miss
    34 Gosder Cherilus OT Boston College
    37 Tony Hills OT Texas
    38 Jake Long OT Michigan
    44 Barry Richardson OT Clemson
    45 Roy Schuening OG Oregon St
    68 Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt
    72 Heath Benedict OL Newberry
    73 Mike Byrne OT Delaware
    # Defensive Line Pos College
    4 Calais Campbell DE Miami
    5 Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
    6 Chris Long DE Virginia
    10 Sedrick Ellis DT USC
    13 Vernon Gholston DE Ohio St
    21 Chris Ellis DE Virginia Tech
    31 Lawrence Jackson DE USC
    46 Brian Johnston DE Garnder-Webb
    47 Tommy Blake DE TCU
    54 Derrick Harvey DE Florida
    56 Quentin Groves DE Auburn
    59 Red Bryant DT Texas AM
    64 Demario Pressley DT NC St
    74 Dre Moore DT Maryland
    # Linebackers Pos College
    2 James Laurinitis LB Ohio St
    25 Keith Rivers LB USC
    26 Dan Connor LB Penn St
    48 Vince Hall LB Virginia Tech
    50 Xavier Adibi LB Virginia Tech
    57 Ali Highsmith LB LSU
    60 Phillip Wheeler LB Georgia tech
    # Defensive Backs Pos College
    7 Kenny Phillips S Miami
    8 Malcolm Jenkins CB Ohio St
    17 Aqib Talib DB Kansas
    19 Antoine Cason CB Arizona
    24 Reggie Smith DB Oklahoma
    29 Mike Jenkins CB South Florida
    36 Justin King CB Penn St
    39 Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tennessee St
    40 DeJuan Tribble CB Boston College
    42 Craig Steltz S LSU
    49 Trae Williams CB South Florida
    51 Terrell Thomas DB USC
    70 Josh Barrett S Arizona St
    71 Leodis McKelvin CB Troy
    77 Dwight Lowery CB San Jose St
    78 Jonathan Hefney S Tennessee
    79 Tracy Porter CB Indiana
    # Special Teams Pos College
    80 Mike Dragosivich P North Dakota St
     

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