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Valid points. Who broke the Oregon qb curse? You remember all those Miami qbs in the 80s? Kelly, Testerverde,Walsh? I know its hard to judge a player on their ability vs the lineage of failure. I have a hard time with Alabama oline and dline prospects. So I can understand the concern. I think the benefits of hitting on that qb outweighs the potential flop because of the rookie wage scale. It used to be a team killer with that bonus money, not soo much now.
AJ was washed. Cooks is a better wr now and last year than AJ was his last 2 years in CincyThe Bengals had AJ Green and Bernard for a year when Burrow got there (after 6-10 and 2-14).
Their NFL careers basically end after that year.
Two Olinemen were even younger than Burrow; two are no longer there.
That was a young offensive line-up.
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If we can get to top 15 in the running game I wouldn’t be so adamant about “no QB”
If I believe in a guy I stck behind him and Ewers is a special talent. With this said I get where you're coming from but I believe Ewers is very special.
Who suffered a major injury against Alabama. Nobody knows if he will be the same after he recovers.
A major injury? A shoulder sprain to his non throwing shoulder is major? Btw, he was be back in uniform for Saturdays game
He's going to be fine. It's not like he ruptured his Achilles.
You don't have to be Manning level to be drafted or to win a superbowl. If that were the case, nobody would get drafted in the 1st rd. You brought up Manning, who did they have before they drafted him? A top flight signal caller is an eraser. Year in and year out, the team is in the hunt and making the playoffs. You have to have one of those guys because players move on in free agency, guys get hurt, etc. The Texans before drafting Watson had decent talent, not championship level because they missed on some players and overpayed for some who wasn't playing up. Just like those teams before Watson, it was proven you can't hide avg qb play. The Texans were winning their 9 games and getting smoked in the playoffs. You can do both. If you keep drafting position players of skill players and wait until a Manning level talent is availible, chances are you're going to be just good enough to not be able to draft him.
Just like the Texans were doing with Watson and before. If you draft your QB and can't surround him with talent then you will always be in that one and done mode.
You draft a guy like Watson, the clock is ticking. You start doing things like trading away two 1st round draft picks for a one dimensional LT.
Nah, you don't have to trade away picks like that. They did that because the coaching staff couldn't develop players, plain and simple, especially offensive line players. They spent high picks on oline players only to see them suck, thats a coaching/pick thing. If you have a qb and your oline suck, like the Texans did, like the Bengals did, your qb can still erase some of those shortcomings. You can have a ready made team with a crappy qb and there isn't much you can do about it except do what the colts have tried and it keeps failing. Point being, the qb is probably the most important position in sports for the most part. Aside from Brady and Wilson, in the last 15 years, the sb winning qb is a 1st rd pick. Even the final 4 in most years, are 1st rd qb's. Brady,Wilson are the outliers with Foles and Brees.
Do we know that the Texans have a coaching staff now that can develop players to go with a high draft pick QB? Enough to build a contending team around him or will they be stuck in that 7-9 win mode through his first contract? I don't think we can know that yet
They have done good these last two drafts. They have 5 picks in rounds one to three. They will be able to surround them with talent. Have you guys forgotten that regime with Watson gave away their draft picks? We didn’t have 5 draft picks in the first three rounds to bring in any talent.
KC did the same thing and was able to build a team with high end players. They gave away a 1st for Clark, same package to move up for Mahomes,and gave up picks for Orlando Brown. What's the difference? They will draft a guy in the 3rd and 4th rd with some issues in college and the Texans generally don't. Steelbtexan calls Texans worthy to paraphrase. Just this past draft, there were issues about Pickens. He is exactly what the Texans needed as an outside wr, but they draft Metchie coming off an injury who is basically a slot guy. Those are examples of having less talent pool to choose from that doesn't really help your team. It happened with Justin Houston vs Brooks Reed , it happened with Marcus Peters vs Kevin Johnson. I could go ,but it doesn't really matter I guess.
This is exactly what I said. I’m not sure our coaches are competent. Is there one part of this team that is on the right track.
I agree. Texans were the same way for a while. Colts should have bit the bullet & drafted a 1st rd QB two years ago. Now, it’s up to the GM & coaches to keep it together until they find their QB. That’s where Rick & BO’b failed because BO’b couldn’t build an offense.
Who is arguing that? I’m just saying we’re going to ruin his career if we don’t get these other issues fixed.
How many 1st round QBs failed in that time?
Look, I shouldn't have said anything, we shouldn't even be talking about that creep here. I was baited. No, I did not mean he should have won EVERY game, but 4-12????? There were some good players on that team. Texans went 4-12/4-13 whatever it was last year with a career retread and Mills with Culley leading the team and really no one to speak of on the team. No way Watson didn't have better players, a better coach than what Mills had and the record was the same. I don't get the intrigue in Watson. He never did anything here in the time he was on the team...we sucked! Glad he's gone, good ridance!
Before I get blasted. Whenever I reference Watson. It's about his on-field play before we found out he was a creep. I've never met the guy, had no idea of his lifestyle. So, my only impressions were his public persona, what he did on game day and how he could help my favorite NFL team win a Super Bowl. After the allegations surfaced, I don't want anything to do with the guy and glad he is not on my favorite NFL team.
Other than 2 years of Kubiak led Schaub years and 2 years of OB led Watson years, the Texans have sucked! They didn't suck any more with Watson than they have at any other time
Only time I did was 2011... Of course I had high hopes in 2002 & 3
I'm seeing steady improvement. I hope Saturday we'll see Pierce get to the 2nd level untouched & some down field blocking (by WRs).
I think it's a wash. Well, Cooks is a step down from Hopkins. & we don't have Will Fuller for his 10 games. But Chris Moore is coming on. He'll never be a star, Mills may not either. But if they can find a way to play as a team, if Pep can scheme them into good situations, they might win some games.
So I'm all about giving Mills 2 1/2 years to show he can become the QB of the future for this franchise, he should be able to show in that time more than flashes of good play and reach a level of play in the vien of Josh Allen, if not quite then at least show a consistent level of winning play that we can depend on week in and week out. At the same time we need to build this team over the next 2 drafts so whoever is playing QB in 2024 will have a team ready to go deep into the playoff and farther.
I'm not even there.
Why did you have to say it.
It wasn’t because of him is the freaking point.