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The Arkansas QB is legit. Austin Allen
Rosen looks like a QB that can go through his progressions.
That's quite impressive for his age.
It will be interesting to watch him further.
Ryan Burns... There are a lot to like about him, except that he seems to be a one/two read QB (which is the norm for most college QBs and even quite a few NFL QBs).
His footwork is great.
I hope he shortens his throwing a bit after the season when he has time to work on it.
He's gotten a partial strip on one play near his own end zone in one game that could have been disastrous.
But his pre-snap read is good.
I saw him beat cover one, cover two, and cover three soundly in one game.
Seems to be a smart guy that understand zone coverage.
Deshone Kizer also looks interesting.
Very raw.I really like Seth Russell.
If available in the 4th rd Smith should pick him.
Strong arm/accurate/very mobile
Let him sit and learn for a few yrs and you may have something.
Deshone Kizer also looks interesting.
As opposed to Bursn, who plays in a Pro system, Kizer runs the spread at Notre Dame.
Within this system, the QB doesn't have the natural time in practice to train his footwork. They are used to be near a stand-up upright position from the shotgun and don't take many drop back steps.
I think this hurts his accuracy, but with time, it can become more consistent.
(And obviously, he also needs to learn to play from under center.)
On the plus side, these QBs get more practices in throwing from a muddy situation when under pressure, without being able to step into the throw.
In the case of Kiner, I also notice that he can go through his multiple reads fairly well, and seems to have football acumen (IQ).
Whether he can adapt to the next level is the million-dollar question, but IMO, he's another interesting prospect.
Very raw.
Mostly a pre-determined play or one-read.
He looks accurate because a fair number of the times, the receivers get open. On the other balls, they are often tossed-ups.
Too much of a project at QB, IMO.
Footwork had improved from last year, but still a way to go.
But if that video of his personal combine is true, and with hand size at 10", I don't mind working him out at WR and spending a 4th if there's any potential there at all (ie., not sure about his hips; whether they are loose enough to make the shift/cut on the routes.)
He looks to be quite athletic despite being rangy and all.
I think he can put on 15-20 lbs without losing much speed.
He's currently around 6'3, 220.
Tell me what you see as a difference between Kizer/Russell?
They both run basically the same offense, both have strong arms/mobile and are accurate. The only difference btween the 2 to me is Kizer has more talent to work with at Notre Dame. Also Kizer will be drafted in the 1st rd. Russell will be drafted much later.
There are a few differences that I had noted above.Tell me what you see as a difference between Kizer/Russell?
They both run basically the same offense, both have strong arms/mobile and are accurate. The only difference btween the 2 to me is Kizer has more talent to work with at Notre Dame. Also Kizer will be drafted in the 1st rd. Russell will be drafted much later.
I agreed.Thanks John,
I still belive Russell has the physical ability and can learn to read defenses as well as Kizer. He's just more of a project than Kizer. Hence the difference between a top 10 pick and a 3rd/4th rd project.
I agreed.
Was just saying that Russell is more of a project, that's all.
My very early draft prognostication is with the 1st pick in the 2017 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns selects Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville.
My bad.He's a true sophomore. Not eligible until 2018.
My bad.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Kizer (redshirt soph) surge ahead of Watson on most boards. They are both raw and play in QB friendly offenses but he has the prototype size that Watson doesn't have.
New Video
Mitch Trubisky vs Florida State (2016)
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/mitch-trubisky-vs-florida-state-2016/
Cooper Rush from Central Michigan anyone??
Top 10 QBs in college football through Week 5
https://www.profootballfocus.com/co...ocial&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=nfl
Austin Allen and Jake Browning only two guys on that list not playing in a spread offense. Keep an eye on both.
Austin Allen and Jake Browning only two guys on that list not playing in a spread offense. Keep an eye on both.
I haven't seen him play but I did make the effort to study his stats. From that perspective playing at a 2nd tier school I would expect to see a higher completion percentage and a better TD to INT ratio. That said his stats also show that Cooper has been getting better each and every year. From my point of view I like to see from a top premier FBS QB a completion percentage close to 70% and a TD to INT ratio > 3.Cooper Rush from Central Michigan anyone??
I use to subscribe to the, oh they play in a spread offense so I need to discount them. I've learned through Dak Prescott and Paxton Lynch that you need to learn to see through that. I now have to ask the question, just because they play in a spread offense does that mean they can't be a good pro style QB???? or can they??? do they have the right tools to be successful in the NFL regardless of the system they are in???? With Lynch and Prescott's it appears that they both are better pro style QBs even thou they played in a spread in college. I absolutely hated the system Lynch was in so I wrote him off completely. I now know that's the wrong thing to do. Judge the player not the system.
My very early draft prognostication is with the 1st pick in the 2017 NFL draft, the Cleveland Browns selects Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville.
The 2018 NFL Draft with Browning, Jackson and Rosen eligible as Juniors, next year is setting up very nicely as the Year of the Quarterback.
I don't see it with Jackson. Looks like VY 2.0 to me. Phenomenal college player but not anywhere near accurate enough to be an NFL QB. Rosen has all the physical tools but has attitude and intangibles issues. I get a serious Leaf/Cutler vibe from him. I like Browning a lot but his size (6-2, 205) will work against him. He's very skinny.
Actually, I caught the replay of the Cowboys - Rams game last night, and Rush looked pretty good.@76Texan
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...wboys-give-rookie-cooper-rush-secondteam-reps
Just for giggles. You never ever know.
Actually, I caught the replay of the Cowboys - Rams game last night, and Rush looked pretty good.