We don't know no other team wanted him.
We know no other team wanted to wait until February to hire a coach.
He wasn't worth the wait for the other teams.
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We don't know no other team wanted him.
We know no other team wanted to wait until February to hire a coach.
True. But, what is the fun in waiting when you can start gathering slings and arrows to build a narrative you can copy and paste for the next 2-4 years?
He wasn't worth the wait for the other teams.
2 first round picks and no interest?
2 first round picks and no interest?
Plus we have a QB who is either going to be good or not. And draft a QB in the same boat. In 2yrs one or both are good and then you trade or dump the other. With the 2nd first round pick you get a top edge rusher to take JJs spot. And STILL have our current picks.
Thats a nice deal.
And fast question, what if Tua is better than Watson 2-3yrs from now? Or the rookie?
And fast question, what if Tua is better than Watson 2-3yrs from now? Or the rookie?
It may be what will be settled on but in my opinion it's nowhere near enough. Long way until the draft.2 first round picks and no interest?
Plus we have a QB who is either going to be good or not. And draft a QB in the same boat. In 2yrs one or both are good and then you trade or dump the other. With the 2nd first round pick you get a top edge rusher to take JJs spot. And STILL have our current picks.
Thats a nice deal.
And fast question, what if Tua is better than Watson 2-3yrs from now? Or the rookie?
Then someone would make a song about itWhat if the moon was blue and it snowed in June?
The reason I like the Jets 4 1st RD picks is that gives the Texans 5 1st RD picks in 2 years. More importantly they can parlay the 3 1st rd picks in 2022 into a couple of more 1st and 2nd rd picks in coming years. This is how Patriots and Jimmy Johnson built their dynasties. Now this is some serious GM long term think something I don't think the Kirby Clown room is capable of. Many failed GMs can only think about 2 years at a time. A 4 year plan confuses many of them.Another reason I like the Jets as a trade partner is even with DeShaun Watson they will probably be a top five draft in 2022. Let yo imagination run wild! I certainly am. this has been more fun for me than the entire season was.
Yes. Not sure about trade downs in 22 as we still will have priority needs but with three round one we should be able to make some good moves.The reason I like the Jets 4 1st RD picks is that gives the Texans 5 1st RD picks in 2 years. More importantly they can parlay the 3 1st rd picks in 2022 into a couple of more 1st and 2nd rd picks in coming years. This is how Patriots and Jimmy Johnson built their dynasties. Now this is some serious GM long term think something I don't think the Kirby Clown room is capable of. Many failed GMs can only think about 2 years at a time. A 4 year plan confuses many of them.
What if the moon was blue and it snowed in June?
I want Jets (2) 1st RD picks in 2021 and (2) 1st RD picks in 2022 and whatever else we can get. That said I'm not convinced they will trade for Watson. They may be content to stay and draft Zach Wilson.Getting at minimum 1.2 and 1.23 plus both round twos, I want Jets round one theirs and Seattle's and round two 2022.
In that draft I select CB Derek Stingley a shutdown guy in 2020 with Jets round one and then with ours I take WR Justin Ross whom I nickname "sticky".
Stingley replaces Roby and Ross replaces Randall Cobb saving close to $20 m. With the round twos I'm taking the best free safety and middle linebacker to replace Reid and McKinney. With the Seattle pic that the Jets have in round one in 2022 I probably go with best player available which might be pass rusher.
Ah cha cha!
2 years for the new coach? If so You know those two years are rebuilding years right, my expectation for the next year or so is quite lowWhat narrative is that?
I said I'm giving him 2 yrs
And I'm going to sell my tickets/keep my PSL's so I dont lose as much $$$$. I'm not giving Cuck and crew any more gear/concessions $$$$.
We're in sensitive times. I've taken to using everyone's member id numbers.Thanks for updating me as I rarely check. When I do it's usually to tease those in front of me. When I first saw that I thought what the heck is he talking about? And then I thought somebody changed my username to tease me.
Of course you wouldn't, Member 23983.I don't get it
Oh ****, did Trump press the button on his way out?What if the moon was blue and it snowed in June?
2 years for the new coach? You know those two years are rebuilding years right
Goat level is a bit much, top 5 is good enough for me.Yep, that's why I said 2 yrs.
The offense has most of the pieces in place and with DW4 getting his choice of HC he should be playing at a GOAT level in a couple of yrs. He already is according to some. So that gives the new regime 2 yrs before the cap killing contract sets in and there will be no championships once that happens.
exactly. This is BS. Won’t return calls and talk but will do this cryptic **** knowing it’s drawing negative attention to the team. I was hoping it wasn’t true but he obviously wants out. Oh well check ya later you traitorit could mean anything but as I am unaware of any political or girlfriend thingy I'm going with his unhappiness with the Texans front office. Why can he not just say what he means?
The SI story was incorrect.
The Hopkins trade was a story of 2 mommas.
Truth It's all about the clicks
If this is a reference to Janice and Watson' mom, maybe the best people to handle this mess would be...2 mommas.
I get why Deshaun Watson hasn't squashed the media circus that has gathered around he and the Texans. What I don't understand is why haven't the Texans, through Cal or Caserio, announced they have no intentions on trading Watson? They can't be actually thinking about it, can they?
I'm fine with Watson holding out the entire 2021 season if it comes down to that. The Texans can not bow down to this kind of pressure when they hold all leverage.
Bet you Daboll is the next HC if DW4's traded.
Caldwell if DW4 isn't traded.
I hope it doesn't come to that, cause I'm warming upto the idea of dabol as coach with watson still in the team. Originally I was in favor of Joe brady, but the situation the Texans are in right now will probably be too much for him
Opinions on this trade scenario?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Who says no to this hypothetical 3-team trade? <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#49ers</a> get: <br>Deshaun Watson<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Patriots</a> get: <br>JJ Watt <br>Jimmy Garoppolo<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc^tfw">#Texans</a> get: <br>2021 1st (SF)<br>2021 2nd (NE) <br>2021 3rd (NE) <br>2022 1st (SF)<br>2022 3rd (SF)<br>2022 4th (NE)<br>2023 1st (SF)</p>— Brian Peacock (@BDPeacock) <a href=" "
I say no
Of course you wouldn't, Member 23983.
I liked the idea of Brady until I researched that offense .... its too Ob'esque to me.
Daboll has made Allen look like a real QB .... I don't believe he's half the QB Watson is. I need to do more research on that scheme ..... but what I have seen appears very balanced.
Whats your thoughts on EB as coach if it comes to that?
"Colored Coach" ? Now there's a blast from the past, haven't heard that term for some time.
I won't imply anything but rather I'll be perfectly explicit:
The Houston Texans will have an African American HC this Fall if Deshawn Watson is also on the Texans roster.
And if having a black coach is the only reason that Deshaun Watson is here then we have to seriously consider his commitment to the team and the sport, or at least wonder what his priorities are.
I mean that's a really ridiculous reason for someone to be placated. That's like, blatant racism. A player who bases his decisions and emotions on something like that is not particularly likable at all no matter how good he is. That's pretty bad and I'm hoping that's not the case.
I think it has more to do with the fact that he’s involved with the best offense in the NFL, he’s widely regarded as a top HC candidate throughout NFL circles, and he’s not part of the Patriots culture. I was leery of EB at first but Ron Hughly, who’s from the KC area and has covered the team for years, described him as an offensive version of Mike Tomlin. Based on his credentials I think DW would be happy with him regardless of his skin color. DW has also praised Eberflus, and he wanted the Texans to interview Saleh as well.
And if having a black coach is the only reason that Deshaun Watson is here then we have to seriously consider his commitment to the team and the sport, or at least wonder what his priorities are.
I mean that's a really ridiculous reason for someone to be placated. That's like, blatant racism. A player who bases his decisions and emotions on something like that is not particularly likable at all no matter how good he is. That's pretty bad and I'm hoping that's not the case.
Goat level is a bit much, top 5 is good enough for me.
Regarding the cap killing contract coming up? Whats your thoughts on the bills/ravens chances of a championship since Jackson and Allen are expected to become the highest paid qb
I think it has more to do with the fact that he’s involved with the best offense in the NFL, he’s widely regarded as a top HC candidate throughout NFL circles, and he’s not part of the Patriots culture. I was leery of EB at first but Ron Hughly, who’s from the KC area and has covered the team for years, described him as an offensive version of Mike Tomlin. Based on his credentials I think DW would be happy with him regardless of his skin color. DW has also praised Eberflus, and he wanted the Texans to interview Saleh as well.
Pretty good candidates thoughDid you happen to notice that 3 of the 4 HC candidates are African Americans? The 4th originally turned down Cucks interview request and only agreed to interview after all of the HC jobs except Philly's were filled.
I think this speaks volumes about who DW4 is and what he wants. Sad part is Cuck's going to give DW4 what he wants and the result of this will be the lost decade.
So pretty much the best way to win a championship is with qbs on their rookie deals......once its time for an extension, release or trade them and draft another rookie qbSame as DW4,
The number may rise some, only because the cap is going to go down, but with DW4 eating up approximately 20% of the cap there will be no championships. Maybe Rodgers beats the 26 yr trend this yr but that would be an anomaly. Notice how the other 3 QB's left in the playoffs are under the number.
When you consider Bienemy, Eberflus and Saleh were candidates on every coaching list and were even suggested by Watson, why didn't they interview them earlier?I am not happy with DW4's antics lately, but I don't think he is acting out because he demand's a black coach. I think it is more likely that he made suggestions on who the Texans should interview and when they dropped the ball on even speaking with Bieniemy (a candidate that is involved in the KC high powered offense), in Watson's mind it they did so because of his skin color. Whether or not that is true, those are the optics of it.
Being they new their new GM was going to have a big voice in their HC hire, maybe they were laying the groundwork for coordinator & assistant coaching positions.When you consider Bienemy, Eberflus and Saleh were candidates on every coaching list and were even suggested by Watson, why didn't they interview them earlier?
We're in sensitive times. I've taken to using everyone's member id numbers.
Of course you wouldn't, Member 23983.
Oh ****, did Trump press the button on his way out?
Someone just needs to come out and say it how it happened .... Can't believe we're almost a year off and still the truth hasn't been told..
The truth would generate so many clicks the counter would break.
They already did enough damage.
You are a silly man/woman/person/[insert gender], Member 56723. Wanna' be friends? lol
I'm surprised, as well, but I think the historic loyalty to the Texans has become a thing of the past and someone is eventually going to write a book at some point. You can only contain this much drama for so long before someone decides to capitalize on it.
I've read a couple of good books over the years about Bud Adams and his antics. The Texans are reaching that level of intrigue.
Good point. However, if those coaching candidate were hired by other teams before the GM hire, they missed an opportunity for honest feedback about their team. Also, even if Bienemy was on Caserio's list and was not interviewed earlier, now you have the peanut gallery squawking about Watson getting his way. At the end of the day, perception is reality for some fans. Regardless how illogical and outlandish.Being they new their new GM was going to have a big voice in their HC hire, maybe they were laying the groundwork for coordinator & assistant coaching positions.
Yes, the HC is going to have a big voice in who he would bring as coordinators & assistants. But our last two HCs have had extremely small circles & they were just looking for candidates.
So, the Texans will have their version of the Cowboys book. Instead, it will be titled God's EVP?
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Oh Cal understands, Cal and Jack were doing exactly what Mama instructed them to do.& that's the part Cal can't understand.
Or what Dak is doing in Dallas. I wonder who he'll be playing for in 2021Watson playing hardball should have been forcing a year 5 without a contract, something similar to what Kirk Cousins did when he kept betting on himself. But he took the money and now wants to get to pick where he gets traded? If I'm Cal, I'm not getting pushed around anymore. JMO.
I'm saying he doesn't understand why everyone is blaming Easterby. There's absolutely nothing to link Easterby to Hopkins but everyone is so sure.Oh Cal understands, Cal and Jack were doing exactly what Mama instructed them to do.
It all goes back to Jack firing Amy. Amy and her media friends said he did, the Texans say Rootes did. Who do you believe?I'm saying he doesn't understand why everyone is blaming Easterby. There's absolutely nothing to link Easterby to Hopkins but everyone is so sure.
All I'm saying is Cal doesn't understand. He was there. He knows.It all goes back to Jack firing Amy. Amy and her media friends said he did, the Texans say Rootes did. Who do you believe?
Or find a journeyman QB with limited skills that plays smart mistake free football, and hire the BEST position coaches $$$ can buy and coach up the rest of your team.So pretty much the best way to win a championship is with qbs on their rookie deals......once its time for an extension, release or trade them and draft another rookie qb