Texansballer74
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Hey lets get back to talking trade proposals for this guy.
I think you two (including @JB ) are bickering over hyperbole and semantics at this point. If one rb get 283 carries and another rb gets 68 receptions is he wrong? It's a rough projection and ultimately wtf cares unless we get the wins?
Exactly
I need to learn to let it go
Most offenses get 45-65 snaps per game. It is possible. It doesn't mean the offense is good but it is possible.
I think you two (including @JB ) are bickering over hyperbole and semantics at this point. If one rb get 283 carries and another rb gets 68 receptions is he wrong? It's a rough projection and ultimately wtf cares unless we get the wins?
I ultimately agree. I just can’t stand JB’s manipulative and know-it-all attitude.Most offenses get 45-65 snaps per game. It is possible. It doesn't mean the offense is good but it is possible.
I think you two (including @JB ) are bickering over hyperbole and semantics at this point. If one rb get 283 carries and another rb gets 68 receptions is he wrong? It's a rough projection and ultimately wtf cares unless we get the wins?
Two high firsts and a throw in 2nd or 3rd round pick?
I ultimately agree. I just can’t stand JB’s manipulative and know-it-all attitude.
I tried. He ignores me in private messaging.That's a separate issue. You 2 should hash it out. Your both great posters.
Would you entertain picking up Brady?
I ultimately agree. I just can’t stand JB’s manipulative and know-it-all attitude.
I tried. He ignores me in private messaging.
It wasn’t combative. I simply called you out about a false accusation and lie you made and you ignored it and refused to answer.I ignored 1 (ONE) combative message. Get a narrower paintbrush
I tried. He ignores me in private messaging.
It would have been easier for you to put me on ignore than tell me to put you on ignore.As you prove mine. Put me on ignore and we'll both be happier
Yes even when I mock to Raiders I want OLB Crosby and RB Josh Jacobs for Watson plus their #12 & 19.I still wouldn't do it. Maybe tempted if they're both top ten / five picks.
I think Watson is special. I think ob does a lot to f that up.
It would have been easier for you to put me on ignore than tell me to put you on ignore.
What about about my Stills for Washington's Haskins? If we had to sit him a while we could roll with McCarron or heck perhaps PJ Walker..I wouldn't move off Watson unless we locked in another good qb. I would definitely be looking at Brady.
I don't think any of this ever has a chance of happening but sure...
What about about my Stills for Washington's Haskins? If we had to sit him a while we could roll with McCarron or heck perhaps PJ Walker..
Yeah and I got culled for language and I am still trying to find out what I said. I think "you and I have never said anything wrong".@JB
You two might take this to the basement thread? I've been assured by mods previously there is less moderation there (within reason.)
It's not intended as a place for fights. It's intended as a de-escalation thread and to keep other threads on topic.
You ever see fighters who hated one another pre fight and had the utmost respect for each other afterward? Give it a shot. I dont think your football opinions are far off.
There has been much speculation that Wash will uses 1.2 for Tua Tag and trade Haskins.Zero chance wash trades haskins for stills. Zero.
Yeah and I got culled for language and I am still trying to find out what I said. I think "you and I have never said anything wrong".
There has been much speculation that Wash will uses 1.2 for Tua Tag and trade Haskins.
I did as I wanted to apologise to whomever but no response yet. With F bomb this thread I assume no mods on MB today.Ask in the offical rules thread. The mods will tell you more then likely. I've said plenty of dumb **** they deleted.
It probably needed to be deleted.
I did as I wanted to apologise to whomever but no response yet. With F bomb this thread I assume no mods on MB today.
but he could take action on the F Bomb? I am all for new review but never thought my words would be "culled". lol@disaacks3 is on right now but I'd guess he wont know who took action on your post.
but he could take action on the F Bomb? I am all for new review but never thought my words would be "culled". lol
You replied to it just short time ago. I digress. Back to football.“Fk you” ?? Classy. Proves my point.
Ask in the offical rules thread. The mods will tell you more then likely. I've said plenty of dumb **** they deleted.
It probably needed to be deleted.
I still wouldn't do it. Maybe tempted if they're both top ten / five picks.
I think Watson is special. I think ob does a lot to f that up.
Yes even when I mock to Raiders I want OLB Crosby and RB Josh Jacobs for Watson plus their #12 & 19.
Wanting and getting are 2 different things.
DW4 ain't that good.
Didn’t you just tell someone that they can go somewhere else with their BOB hate? But you’re hating on Watson. Interesting
Without this not that good QB we would’ve went 4-12 again.
Lol at this dude here. Practice what you preach
yes and not just any first and seconds; have to be high enough to bring in game changers. Top 10 minimum.Personally, if I were to move Watson......I want 2- RD1 and 2- RD2 picks over the 2020 and 2021 NFL Drafts. Next, I'm signing McCarron on the cheap and handing him the reins for the next 2 seasons. To be honest, McCarron deserves a shot at starting b/c I believe he could be a pretty good QB with some real reps under his belt. Those picks could provide a solid foundation to fill some glaring holes over the next 2 seasons.
but as you know your opinion is in the minority and none of us know whatNFL teams think. we've seen that historically.Wanting and getting are 2 different things.
DW4 ain't that good.
yes and not just any first and seconds; have to be high enough to bring in game changers. Top 10 minimum.
I think Miami would want in on the Watson sweepstakes if he were available.
Special?
Not to put words in Powda’s mouth, but Watson is one of the most “clutch” QBs I’ve seen. Yes he has things to improve upon, but the ability to perform under pressure is rare and hard to find.
that's what my perspective has been with a possible move of Watson. He is a very good quarterback and with Burrows and Tua Tag going 1 & 2 and possibly Chargers moving up to number three and taking Herbert it's a long drop Before you get to the next QB. Day 1 this season Watson will be better than any of these three. His contract, future health and this offense with his head coach limits his growth in Houston. IMO, Wash, Miami & Raiders going into new venue should pay dearly for #4. Every one mocked Chase Young to 1.2 and had Herbert at #6 and it might yet work out that way. However more and more mocks are taking my view. The jonesing for a QB of the future will only intensify as we get closer to the draft.Most definitely. A lot of teams would love to have that QB that’s not good.
Hopefully he gets better with the pressure of the playoffs.
I guess you completely forgot about his clutch plays against the Bills stout defense huh?
A couple of plays a game doesn't make a QB clutch. He got extremely lucky to make that throw to Jones.
Are you saying he had a good game against the Bills?
Man just stop it. This kid has been clutch since high school.
Yes he handled his business. We wouldn’t have advanced if it wasn’t for his heroics. Bill O’Brien was the one who trotted out that vanilla crap.
Maybe if DW4 had played better the heroics wouldn't have been needed that game. He was really bad for 2 1/2 qtrs.
Are you saying he had a good game and that he didn't get lucky?
You always gotta put this crap on the kid. Bump the atrocious offensive line play. Bump the fact that our recievers are not getting any type of separation. And what about that boring unimaginative play calling. So how in the world do you expect any player to be consistent.
I expect improvement in reading defenses/Anticipation/Accuracy.
So DW4 didn't have these issues over the last month of the season? It was all on everybody else connected with the offense.
I think I've got it.
So is everything all on Watson? Did Watson continuously call runs up the middle against the number 1 run defense in the NFL (TB game). Was it Watson’s fault Fuller was injured, and hardly played in the final month? You don’t think inserting the human turnstile Chris Clark negatively effected the offense during the final month? How about the crappy play of Fulton? Pff gave him a score in mid 70s for pass blocking, and a 47 for run blocking. You don’t think, given our penchant for running the FB, this had a negative effect? If you’re constantly stuck in 3rd and long it’s hard to have success, unless you’re playing against our defense.
The goat TBs completion % dropped by 10% vs the previous 3 seasons. Did he suddenly become inaccurate or was it because he was playing with new WRs this year. Both of our offenses require the QB and the WR making the same reads, and when QBs and WRs aren’t on the same page it will effect both accuracy and anticipation. Go back and listen to the podcast where Cecil Shorts describes our offense and how complicated it is. There are something like 200 formations and multiple route combinations. We might put something in the week 13 game plan that they haven’t practiced since training camp. For guys like Hop and Fuller it might not be a big deal as they have several years in the system, but for guys like Fells, Stills, and Coutee you have to see where it could cause issues. Coutee couldn’t get his butt off the bench because he kept making errors, running the wrong routes.
Yes there are areas that Watson needs to improve with out question. He’s still a young player and he’s far from a finished product. However, there’s always context to every situation. A great game plan can make an average player look great just like a mediocre game plan can make a great player look mediocre. I think injuries and new players can effect teams like ours and NE a bit more than other teams where there are fewer reads to make during a play. I think poor pass blocking can effect a QBs footwork, rhythm and timing which can in turn effect accuracy and anticipation. Like you I wasn’t happy with the offense towards the end of the season. The difference is I’m spreading the blame around to multiple parties that I believe played a role in our poor performances, including giving Watson his fair share. It seems through your posts you’re laying the lions share at Watson’s feet. I’m not sure that’s entirely fair
Good reply
TB missed Gromk last yr, that was the biggest reason for his drop off. WFV played in the playoffs and Stills isn't a bad WR.
I will give you Clark but if one below avg OT can bring a entire offense to below avg then there are other issues. BTW. The offense had to work around 2 below avg OTs 2 yrs ago and somehow managed to make the playoffs.
Yes, I would expect the players I drafted to be smart enough to learn the playback if I was BOB, mean it's a large part of their job and if they can't learn the playbook then it's time to move on.
If Coutee doesn't get more comfortable with the playbook/route running then I expect him to be cut in TC as an example.
I do lay the Lions share at DE4's feet because he's basically the same guy he was as a rookie