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Discussion in 'College Football & the NFL Draft' started by Vinny, Feb 15, 2005.

  1. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    I stole this off yvette at the tomb. thanka :thumbup

    ESPN Insider/Scouts, Inc.

    1. Braylon Edwards WR SR Michigan
    2. Aaron Rodgers QB JR Cal-Berkeley
    3. Adam Jones DC JR West Virginia
    4. Alex Smith QB JR Utah
    5. Ronnie Brown RB SR Auburn
    6. Antrell Rolle DC SR Miami-FL
    7. Carnell Williams RB SR Auburn
    8. Derrick Johnson OLB SR Texas
    9. Cedric Benson RB SR Texas
    10. Troy Williamson WR JR South Carolina
    11. Mike Williams WR JR USC
    12. Shawne Merriman DE JR Maryland
    13. Heath Miller TE JR Virginia
    14. Erasmus James DE SR Wisconsin
    15. Travis Johnson DT SR Florida State
    16. Alex Barron OT SR Florida State
    17. Thomas Davis DS JR Georgia
    18. David Pollack DE SR Georgia
    19. Marcus Spears DE SR LSU
    20. Carlos Rogers DC SR Auburn
    21. Dan Cody DE SR Oklahoma
    22. Matt Roth DE SR Iowa
    23. Jammal Brown OT SR Oklahoma
    24. Mark Clayton WR SR Oklahoma
    25. Brandon Browner DC SR Oregon State
    26. Shaun Cody DT SR USC
    27. Roddy White WR SR UAB
    28. Channing Crowder LB SO Florida
    29. Justin Miller DC JR Clemson
    30. Antaaj Hawthorne DT SR Wisconsin
    31. Brodney Pool DS JR Oklahoma
    32. Bryant McFadden DC SR Florida State

    ... and a look at the second-tier of running back talent:

    Ciatrick Fason, Florida
    Athletic potential starter but lack of experience and toughness make him a risk. He has the most upside of all the other RB prospects.

    Vernand Morency, Oklahoma State
    Explosive speed and adequate size but needs to stay healthy and become a more physical runner. A good fit for a Broncos'-type of zone-blocking offense.

    Eric Shelton, Louisville
    Could be a better pro than college player. Still needs to improve blocking and receiving skills, but possesses terrific speed and athletic ability for such a big back.

    T.A. McLendon, N.C. State
    A Stephen Davis (Panthers) type with great size, vision and power as a runner. However, durability and fumbling problems will cause him to slip on draft day.

    Walter Reyes, Syracuse
    Undersized back with explosive speed. Had trouble staying healthy as a senior, which explains why his stock is on the decline. Could be a sleeper in this class.

    Anthony Davis, Wisconsin
    Lack of size and major durability issues will hurt him on draft weekend. However, he has the speed, elusiveness and instincts to contribute as a return specialist and change of pace back in the NFL.

    J.J. Arrington, California
    Lack of size limits him and he needs more experience. However, he catches the ball well and possesses explosive speed. Worth taking a chance on as a potential third-down back and kickoff return specialist.

    Marion Barber III, Minnesota
    Overrated by some because he lacks explosive speed and great size. However, he has enough physical tools, toughness and running instincts to contribute as a backup RB and KOR specialist.

    Ryan Moats, Louisiana Tech
    Shifty, tough, diminutive back that shined as a senior and built on that momentum at the East-West Shrine game. He can contribute as a change-of-pace back and return specialist in the NFL.

    Frank Gore, Miami-FL
    High risk but potential for high reward. Two season-ending knee injuries in 2002 and 2003, but showed good durability as the load-carrier for the Hurricanes in 2004. If he ever regains his burst and explosiveness, he could be a late-Day 1 steal.

    Kay-Jay Harris, West Virginia
    Another "Boom-or-Bust" prospect with loads of upside because of his size/speed combination but lots of red flags as an aging back with durability concerns and limited experience. A team such as the Jets, Steelers or Eagles, with some wiggle-room at the position, should take a gamble on him.

    Darren Sproles, Kansas State
    Hugely productive and versatile player on the collegiate level. Stood out as one of the quickest skill players at the Senior Bowl. Lacks the size of a fulltime NFL RB but he can make things happen with the ball in his hands. A Dave Meggett-type that will contribute as a runner, receiver and return specialist.

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  2. Wolf

    Wolf 100% Texan

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    Vinny , what you think of Gore? you think 1st day is legit for him because of 2 knee operations?.. I'd understand 1 operation .... I also realize he does have some talent...
     
  3. Vinny

    Vinny shiny happy fan Staff Member

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    I think some team that already has a good back will end up taking Gore since he will be an injury risk. I can't see a team in 'need' of a back taking a chance on his wheels. If you could guarantee health he is one of the better backs in this class. He may be a good candidate here since Dom is a solid back and we need a complimentary runner. I like a ton of backs in this draft so if he is there in the 4th and we haven't taken a back by then I'd love to take him....but many people think he will be gone on the first day.
     
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    I dont see Willamson being better than Mike Williams. I guess its just the year off.
     
  5. wags

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    Williamson may have had two of the worst throwing QB's in the country as his QB. I can only imagine what his stats would be if he had a decent QB.
     
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    Texan in Japan All Pro

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    I'll really be surprised if Mike Williams doesn't move up into tip 5. He could even be the #1 overall if he has a great combine and his 40 time is 4.5.

    I've also heard that Pac Man is being hyped by Kipper because of his relationship with his agent.

    I also think that guys like Jason Tuck DE/OLB(with a great combine) will move into 1st round.
     
  7. beerlover

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    1. 49ers – Aaron Rogers, QB, Cal
    2. Dolphins – Alex Smith, QB, Utah
    3. Browns - Derrick Johnson, LB, Texas
    4. Bears – Mike Williams, WR, USC
    5. Buccaneers – Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
    6. Titans – Alex Barron, OT, FSU
    7. Raiders - Thomas Davis, S, Georgia
    8. Packers (from Cardinals) – Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami
    9. Redskins – Braylon Edwards, WR Michigan
    10. Lions – Justin Tuck DE/OLB Notre Dame
    11. Cowboys – Shawne Merriman, DE Maryland
    12. Chargers (New York)– Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
    13. Vikings (Texans) – Adam "Pac-Man" Jones, CB, West Virgina
    14. Panthers – Heath Miller TE Virginia
    15. Chiefs – Marlin Jackson, CB, Michigan
    16. Saints – Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn
    17. Bengals - Marcus Spears, DE, LSU
    18. Seahawks from (Texans/Vikings) for 23,85 – RB Cedric Benson, RB, UT
    19. Steelers (Rams) - Carnell "Cadillac" Williams
    20. Cowboys (Buffalo)– Justin Miller CB, Clemson
    21. Jaguars - Dan Cody, DE Oklahoma
    22. Browns - (Ravens for 34, 67) - Erasmus James, DE Wisconson
    23. Texans (Seahawks) - David Baas, C/OG, Michigan
    24. Cardinals (from Packers) – Brandon Browner, CB, Oregon State
    25. Broncos – Shaun Cody, DT, USC
    26. Jets – Alex Smith, TE, Stanford
    27. Falcons - Mark Clayton, WR Oklahoma
    28. Chargers – Brodney Pool, S, Oklahoma
    29. Colts – Travis Johnson - DT - Florida St
    30. Rams (Steelers)- Matt Roth, DE, Iowa
    31. Eagles – Elton Brown, OG, Virginia
    32. Patriots – Roddy White, WR, UAB

    who's copying who? we may have missed on Troy Williamson in the 1st round which seems likely now, but look who ESPN Insider missed out on, David Baas, Alex Smith, Elton Brown. instead they have Antaaj Hawthorne & Bryant McFadden. I would drop Alex Smith & add Troy Williamson, but I would keep both big guards. overall however strikingly similar. good job Texans, guess we know our stuff.
     
  8. Wild Bill

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    People are crazy if they think that Williamson is going to be a better NFL Wide Out than Mike Williams. Apparently he's out is sight, out of mind, but this guy is a game breaking wide receiver much like Michael Irving. Mike Williams is the best wideout in this draft and was possibly the best in last years draft (except for R. Williams). Whoever gets him won't be sorry.

    It won't be the Texans though. We'll either draft PacMan or Marcus Spears.
     
  9. Nawzer

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    I'm interested in seeing where Morency and Fason will go.
     
  10. astrofan

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    I like Fason more than Gore... he seems like he could do a pretty good DD imitation for the third of the plays during a season that DD is not at full strength.
     

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