TimeKiller
Guest
sigh.....
Death to Google Ads! Texans Talk Tip Jar! 🍺😎👍
Thanks for your support!
He didn't attend Colorado State ?
You think so? Let's take a look:Because we have a glut of TE's and WR's already.
Hmmm...maybe they should have drafted some FS help.....or some good DL help....or some extra LB help.
Nah. We needed two TE's in this draft too.
Fuggin' morons.
Winner.You'll have to wait the last two games of the season to see him play. He'll have two good games but in the draft, Smithiak with the 2nd pick in the draft goes WR. After the lockout ends and season starts, Dickerson will be our #2 WR and we'll wonder why we wasted a second rounder.
Haven't heard his name on any injury lists....Other, Dude can't stay healthy & he likely isn't ready either.
You think so? Let's take a look:
TE-
Owen Daniels-broken
Joel Dreesen-solid but not outstanding player
James Casey-highly athletic guy that never gets a shot.
Garret Graham-looks like OD, plays like OD....is sitting like OD.
Anthony Hill-for the time being, not broken. Give him 2 or 3 special teams plays, he'll be out in no time. If he stays healthy? **** 'em, we'll never play him especially after we draft another TE next year.
WR-
Andre Johnson-man/beast
Kevin Walter-inconsistent at best? Hasn't made a definitive impact this year.
Jacoby Jones-while it's nice that he is making catches for punt returns, he couldn't catch a cold quarantined in a room full of people with pnuemonia.
David Anderson-situationally, a good player. Realistically? Not a player.
Dorin Dickerson-won't get a shot to play a single down this year for some reason.
Winner.
Haven't heard his name on any injury lists....
Dorin Dickerson is the new Arian Foster.
WR is not the easiest position in the NFL. There are a couple positions where players come in and routinely make immediate impact, but WR isn't one of them.
WR is not the easiest position in the NFL. There are a couple positions where players come in and routinely make immediate impact, but WR isn't one of them.
Marques Colston?
What's easier than catch ball, run with ball? Even Randy Moss can do that. Seriously though, what's easier than WR? Right Guard?
How many got a chance? I pointed to him because he represents exactly what you are saying doesn't happen. He blew up and DD has similar attributes/situation so that's obviously the first name that comes to mind.People like to point to Marques Colston like he represents something other than what he really is - an anomaly. How many other 7th round WRs come in as a rookie and do what he did? Without looking it up, I'm going to step out on a limb and say zero.
I'd be happy if they just acted like he was on this team. Really and truly, if his size/speed combo isn't enough to beat out DA...and his hands aren't enough to beat out JJ...then he needs to be cut so we can get somebody in who is a viable option.Steve Smith CAR had 10 catches his rookie season and 54 his second year.
Ochocinco had 28 catches his rookie year.
TJ Houshmandzadeh had 21 catches his rookie year.
Reggie Wayne had 27 catches his rookie year.
Roddy White had 29 catches his rookie year and 30 his second.
Vincent Jackson played in 7 games as a rookie and had 3 total catches. He followed that up with 27 catches his 2nd year.
Brandon Marshall had 20 catches his rookie year.
Sidney Rice had 31 and 15 catches his first two years.
Steve Smith NYG had 8 catches his rookie year.
"he's a good kid, he works very hard, but right now we have other kids in front of him that are doing a good job, but he'll get his opportunity...and that's what these league is about, taking advantage of opportunities."
-suckiak
Every year there are one or maybe two rookie WRs that come in and make an immediate impact. There are countless WRs that take two to three years to hit their stride. Most early round WRs seem to take a year or two to hit their stride. When you consider that the early round guys are going to get opportunities that guys like DD won't get right away (never mind the position shift), it's not too unusual.
People like to point to Marques Colston like he represents something other than what he really is - an anomaly. How many other 7th round WRs come in as a rookie and do what he did? Without looking it up, I'm going to step out on a limb and say zero. Rod smith had 22 receptions his first two years. Was Jimmy Smith a late round pick? I forget, but he also had 22 catches his first couple years.
Here are some recent examples of early round WRs:
Steve Smith CAR had 10 catches his rookie season and 54 his second year.
Ochocinco had 28 catches his rookie year.
TJ Houshmandzadeh had 21 catches his rookie year.
Reggie Wayne had 27 catches his rookie year.
Roddy White had 29 catches his rookie year and 30 his second.
Vincent Jackson played in 7 games as a rookie and had 3 total catches. He followed that up with 27 catches his 2nd year.
Brandon Marshall had 20 catches his rookie year.
Sidney Rice had 31 and 15 catches his first two years.
Steve Smith NYG had 8 catches his rookie year.
Just for kicks, peruse this list and take a look at how many WRs just flat haven't made it in the NFL or have made very minimal impact. Honestly, after going through the list, Jacoby Jones even looks good. For contrast, take a look at the RB list. On defense, LBs pretty routinely make an immediate impact.
WRs just take a while.
I'd be happy if they just acted like he was on this team. Really and truly, if his size/speed combo isn't enough to beat out DA...and his hands aren't enough to beat out JJ...then he needs to be cut so we can get somebody in who is a viable option.
that's cool and all but we aren't asking him to start. hell even be the 3rd receiver. We would just like to seem him once or twice.
Dorin Dickerson can't catch the slant route.
I don't disagree with any of that, and I'd like to see DD get a shot as well. I was just refuting the notion that WR is the easiest position. Judging by past results, it's clearly not.
Dorin Dickerson can't catch the slant route.
Tell me the last time we threw a slant pass.
I can't remember it.
$10 to the person who can identify the last time we threw a slant pass, and to which player was on the receiving end of the slant pass play.
I don't even think there has been one this season. Every freaking pass play is a long-developing, down-the-field play.
You don't remember the quick slants because they aren't sexy and result in 60 yd TD's regularly. We have run a number of slants this year. We can argue (uselessly) about what percentage but they have definitely been run.
Slant routes are usually just short, high percentage passes that happens to be quite effective against man coverage. Like you said, slant routes don't result in TD's regularly.
...unless you're Santonio Holmes playing against the Texans' defense.
Tell me the last time we threw a slant pass.
I can't remember it.
$10 to the person who can identify the last time we threw a slant pass, and to which player was on the receiving end of the slant pass play.
I don't even think there has been one this season. Every freaking pass play is a long-developing, down-the-field play.