What score did Clark receive from last weeks lame arse effort?
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What score did Clark receive from last weeks lame arse effort?
I believe it was ~54.What score did Clark receive from last weeks lame arse effort?
That's a weird looking negative sign.I believe it was ~54.
Typo negative signThat's a weird looking negative sign.
Top 10 OT Pass Block Win Rate1. Corey Linsley, Packers, 98%
2. JC Tretter, Browns, 98%
3. Mike Pouncey, Chargers, 97%
4. A.Q. Shipley, Cardinals, 97%
5. Brandon Linder, Jaguars, 96%
6. Rodney Hudson, Raiders, 96%
7. Mitch Morse, Bills, 95%
8. Ryan Jensen, Buccaneers, 95%
9. Weston Richburg, 49ers, 95%
10. Nick Martin, Texans, 94%
1. Trent Brown, Raiders, 94%
2. Tytus Howard, Texans, 94%
3. David Bakhtiari, Packers, 94%
4. Ronnie Stanley, Ravens, 93%
5. Charles Leno Jr., Bears, 93%
6. Orlando Brown Jr., Ravens, 93%
7. Alejandro Villanueva, Steelers, 93%
8. Andrew Whitworth, Rams, 92%
9. Ty Nsekhe, Bills, 92%
10. Brian O’Neill, Vikings, 92%
1. Green Bay Packers, 68%
2. Baltimore Ravens, 66%
3. Oakland Raiders, 65%
4. Buffalo Bills, 65%
5. Pittsburgh Steelers, 62%
6. Jacksonville Jaguars, 62%
7. Chicago Bears, 62%
8. Indianapolis Colts, 62%
9. Houston Texans, 61%
10. Arizona Cardinals, 60%
11. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 59%
12. Detroit Lions, 59%
13. Tennessee Titans, 59%
14. Cleveland Browns, 59%
15. Dallas Cowboys, 59%
16. Los Angeles Chargers, 58%
17. New York Giants, 57%
18. Washington Redskins, 57%
19. Kansas City Chiefs, 57%
20. Minnesota Vikings, 56%
21. New Orleans Saints, 56%
22. Philadelphia Eagles, 56%
23. New England Patriots, 55%
24. San Francisco 49ers, 54%
25. Los Angeles Rams, 54%
26. New York Jets, 50%
27. Denver Broncos, 50%
28. Seattle Seahawks, 49%
29. Atlanta Falcons, 47%
30. Carolina Panthers, 43%
31. Miami Dolphins, 41%
32. Cincinnati Bengals, 40%
Rod Johnson better than Tytus Howard for starters.Tytus Howard on IR
Rod Johnson better than Tytus Howard for starters.
FIFYRod Johnson better than Tytus Howard for starters. NOT!
Johnson doesn't have Howard's strength
I agree with you that Johnson doesn't look like a traditional RT. For the sake of the rest of the season, though, I hope he's better at it than I think.Johnson got benched for Clark.
One of the games Tunsil was out we started Clark with less than a week of practice. Rod Johnson came in the 2nd series with an opportunity to earn the job... been on the team since last year.
Clark looked better to me.
& RJohnson looks more suited as a LT. Doesn't have the lower anchor to push defenses off the ball to be a RT.
Still a bit concerned with the run blocking. Also didn't like on a couple of plays, there was a free rusher to DW4.Looked pretty good last night! I like how we reacted to Howard being out.
I worry that the O-line is still the weak point of this team.Still a bit concerned with the run blocking. Also didn't like on a couple of plays, there was a free rusher to DW4.
But overall, happy with their performance last night.
I worry that the O-line is still the weak point of this team.
....especially with Von Miller & co. coming to town
At the beginning of the game they were some weird plays by Tunsil in particular. He wasn’t getting beaten, it looked like he let a guy go free by design. I remember one play in particular where he helped the G and the guy in front of him had almost a free run at the QB. I’m guessing that’s part of those sweet protection schemes Develin runs. Maybe Martin was supposed to swing out and block the guy directly in front of Tunsil - the defense would never see that coming
I agree .... they don't often look as cohesive as I thought they would by now .... and I may be too critical, but I expected far more from Tunsil, in many ways, especially considering the price we paid !
But in other games these last 4 weeks has been no holes for Hyde to run through
Tunsil and his agent are not likely to extend until the CBA's new elevated salary cap is established.RG, Brandon Scherff (28 yrs old) will be an UFA in 2020 or at this season's end. He would be my primary UFA target b/c hands down, he would have a massive impact on the OL.
If the Texans wanted to add Scherff, I'd expect them to make an offer of 5 years at 67.5M which would make him the 2nd highest paid OG behind Zach Martin. If they wanted to eliminate the competition it could take a 6 year 84M dollar deal
Texans currently have Laremy Tunsil (25 yrs old) under contract until they end of the 2020 season. His UFA begins at the same time the new CBA should go into effect which could make it easier for the Texans to get him signed. They could try to get him extended before the 2020 season ends but they better be prepared to get him into the 18M per season range. If I were making this call......I'd be all in on keeping this group together.
Martin (26 yrs old) has already been extended so his situation would be a non-issue. Howard (23 yrs old) and Scharping (23 yrs old) are in their rookie years and still have plenty of team control years ahead of them. This would be young and talented group.
I could see the Texans getting a solid 5 year run out of the following core group:
LT- Tunsil
LG- Scharping
OC- Martin
RG- Scherff
RT- Howard
I don't think the investment would be out of line....no pun intended.
Marone has always struck me as a classy guy. If he can improve clock management, challenges, and stop OB from running ineffectively 13 times on 15 first downs, I'm all for it.
Actually, I'm all for bringing in anyone who could do that.
Marone has always struck me as a classy guy. If he can improve clock management, challenges, and stop OB from running ineffectively 13 times on 15 first downs, I'm all for it.
Actually, I'm all for bringing in anyone who could do that.
Now there are multiple reports that the Jags are denying that they have informed Marrone has been told he will be released after Sunday's game. Things will be up in the air until there is an official statement one way or the other by the team.
Now there are multiple reports that the Jags are denying that they have informed Marrone has been told he will be released after Sunday's game. Things will be up in the air until there is an official statement one way or the other by the team.
I would like Scherff also but with Snyder letting his President go & with enough cap I think he will be with Washington next year. It's possible Trent Williams will return. I'm hopin Alex Leatherwood drops to our second round as he would be game one starter at RG and could beat out Howard at RT. Plus perhaps our future LT if Tunsil leaves.RG, Brandon Scherff (28 yrs old) will be an UFA in 2020 or at this season's end. He would be my primary UFA target b/c hands down, he would have a massive impact on the OL.
If the Texans wanted to add Scherff, I'd expect them to make an offer of 5 years at 67.5M which would make him the 2nd highest paid OG behind Zach Martin. If they wanted to eliminate the competition it could take a 6 year 84M dollar deal
Texans currently have Laremy Tunsil (25 yrs old) under contract until they end of the 2020 season. His UFA begins at the same time the new CBA should go into effect which could make it easier for the Texans to get him signed. They could try to get him extended before the 2020 season ends but they better be prepared to get him into the 18M per season range. If I were making this call......I'd be all in on keeping this group together.
Martin (26 yrs old) has already been extended so his situation would be a non-issue. Howard (23 yrs old) and Scharping (23 yrs old) are in their rookie years and still have plenty of team control years ahead of them. This would be young and talented group.
I could see the Texans getting a solid 5 year run out of the following core group:
LT- Tunsil
LG- Scharping
OC- Martin
RG- Scherff
RT- Howard
I don't think the investment would be out of line....no pun intended.
I would like Scherff also but with Snyder letting his President go & with enough cap I think he will be with Washington next year. It's possible Trent Williams will return. I'm hoping Alex Leatherwood drops to our second round as he would be game one starter at RG and could beat out Howard at RT. Plus perhaps our future LT if Tunsil leaves.RG, Brandon Scherff (28 yrs old) will be an UFA in 2020 or at this season's end. He would be my primary UFA target b/c hands down, he would have a massive impact on the OL.
If the Texans wanted to add Scherff, I'd expect them to make an offer of 5 years at 67.5M which would make him the 2nd highest paid OG behind Zach Martin. If they wanted to eliminate the competition it could take a 6 year 84M dollar deal
Texans currently have Laremy Tunsil (25 yrs old) under contract until they end of the 2020 season. His UFA begins at the same time the new CBA should go into effect which could make it easier for the Texans to get him signed. They could try to get him extended before the 2020 season ends but they better be prepared to get him into the 18M per season range. If I were making this call......I'd be all in on keeping this group together.
Martin (26 yrs old) has already been extended so his situation would be a non-issue. Howard (23 yrs old) and Scharping (23 yrs old) are in their rookie years and still have plenty of team control years ahead of them. This would be young and talented group.
I could see the Texans getting a solid 5 year run out of the following core group:
LT- Tunsil
LG- Scharping
OC- Martin
RG- Scherff
RT- Howard
I don't think the investment would be out of line....no pun intended.
He's done.
New OL coach/OC?
So hard because the magic happens when he’s either moving or holding on to the ball too long...almost as if him improving to go through those progressions, seeing the hot route etc would take away the best part of his game.I just listened to 30 yr OL coach Paul Alexander break down what he saw with the 7 sacks that happened Saturday.
1. DW4 ran naked boot and the DE got him.
2. Fulton blocked his man but not great. DW4 had time to get rid of the ball but didn't. 1/2 on Fulton 1/2 on DW4.
3. Duke missed a block allowing a sack.
4. Fells missed a block allowing a sack
5-7 DW4 missed his hot reads and held onto the ball too long.
This is Alexander's film study not mine. By his account there was only 1/2 a sack that was attributed to the OL.
I just listened to 30 yr OL coach Paul Alexander break down what he saw with the 7 sacks that happened Saturday.
1. DW4 ran naked boot and the DE got him.
2. Fulton blocked his man but not great. DW4 had time to get rid of the ball but didn't. 1/2 on Fulton 1/2 on DW4.
3. Duke missed a block allowing a sack.
4. Fells missed a block allowing a sack
5-7 DW4 missed his hot reads and held onto the ball too long.
This is Alexander's film study not mine. By his account there was only 1/2 a sack that was attributed to the OL.
Thanks for that SteelB !I just listened to 30 yr OL coach Paul Alexander break down what he saw with the 7 sacks that happened Saturday.
1. DW4 ran naked boot and the DE got him.
2. Fulton blocked his man but not great. DW4 had time to get rid of the ball but didn't. 1/2 on Fulton 1/2 on DW4.
3. Duke missed a block allowing a sack.
4. Fells missed a block allowing a sack
5-7 DW4 missed his hot reads and held onto the ball too long.
This is Alexander's film study not mine. By his account there was only 1/2 a sack that was attributed to the OL.
How did you hear this? Would like to give it a listen.
Sack #5 wasn't a blitz. It was a 4 man rush where Fulton got beat and flushed Watson out of the pocket. It did look like Duke was getting open on the other side of the field, but Watson was already running at this time. Would have preferred DW throwing the ball ob instead of taking the sack.
Sack #6 also wasn't a blitz, it was a 4 man rush where the left-end came free. Chris Clark doesn't block anyone and lets his guy go free at the QB. I don't see a hot read that's open, so Watson escapes the pocket. Once again, he should have chucked it ob here instead of taking the sack.
Sack #7 was a blitz and the safety came free through the b-gap. And it does look like Duke came open quickly. DW should have went to him. At the same time, Rodrick got easily beaten, so there were two guys chasing after DW.
I don't see how you can't at least give partial blame on the OL for sacks 5 & 6. I'm not an OL coach, so would like to listen where I'm wrong.
I would say take a look for yourself and form an opinion - these are sacks 5-7. I would give Fulton at least partial credit for 5 and 7, and 6 doesn't make the oline look great (let the outside rusher come free).
Sack 5 - maybe DW could have lobbed something to the back leaking out, but it would have been risky with two LB's sitting on it. Another fraction of a second and he might have had time to throw to Hop.
Sack 6 - the pressure is there about the time his backfoot hits, not much else open. Once he started to scramble maybe could have taken a shot up the sideline.
Sack 7 - RJ gets beat like a drum, Fulton could have at least tried to get in the way (although he did at least block, someone). DW may have been able to get it to the back headed toward the sideline.
Still, DW needs to chuck it out of bounds once he is outside the pocket, just can't win them all.
Thoughts?
I would say take a look for yourself and form an opinion - these are sacks 5-7. I would give Fulton at least partial credit for 5 and 7, and 6 doesn't make the oline look great (let the outside rusher come free).
Sack 5 - maybe DW could have lobbed something to the back leaking out, but it would have been risky with two LB's sitting on it. Another fraction of a second and he might have had time to throw to Hop.
Sack 6 - the pressure is there about the time his backfoot hits, not much else open. Once he started to scramble maybe could have taken a shot up the sideline.
Sack 7 - RJ gets beat like a drum, Fulton could have at least tried to get in the way (although he did at least block, someone). DW may have been able to get it to the back headed toward the sideline.
Still, DW needs to chuck it out of bounds once he is outside the pocket, just can't win them all.
Thoughts?
I would say take a look for yourself and form an opinion - these are sacks 5-7. I would give Fulton at least partial credit for 5 and 7, and 6 doesn't make the oline look great (let the outside rusher come free).
Sack 5 - maybe DW could have lobbed something to the back leaking out, but it would have been risky with two LB's sitting on it. Another fraction of a second and he might have had time to throw to Hop.
Sack 6 - the pressure is there about the time his backfoot hits, not much else open. Once he started to scramble maybe could have taken a shot up the sideline.
Sack 7 - RJ gets beat like a drum, Fulton could have at least tried to get in the way (although he did at least block, someone). DW may have been able to get it to the back headed toward the sideline.
Still, DW needs to chuck it out of bounds once he is outside the pocket, just can't win them all.
Thoughts?
He had time to get rid of the ball.
On 5-6 the route design sucked. Particularly 5.
On 7 he had Duke in the flat probably for a 1st down if he cuts loose the throw.
On #7, is Duke the first option? if he throws to Duke before planting his feet, that's a Schaub like Pick-6 waiting to happen. Seems like the slot WR on the right was the first option. But poor blocking destroyed that option.
Nice job on the videos. If you count, within 2-3 seconds, there is pressure in the pocket and that's from the shotgun. SMDH.
Here is a former QB's take on the OL and offense in general.
Sack #5 wasn't a blitz. It was a 4 man rush where Fulton got beat and flushed Watson out of the pocket.
Sack 6 - I don't know how you can't at least give partial blame on the OL. I mean, no one blocked the left edge rusher.
Sack 7 - It was a good designed blitz. I would have liked to have seen DW try to hit Duke immediately once he recognized the free rusher.