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Mike Devlin must have some pretty incriminating photos.
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Should Bill O'Brien tell the truth to the press/media?
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Mike Devlin must have some pretty incriminating photos.
Dark humor, love it.Has anyone given any thought to perhaps OB is the best the Texans organization can do?
#trainwrecked
#crypticresponse
Texansballer74
The Marine
Davenport and Henderson are my starting tackles. Camp starts and Davenport isn't getting any burn.
Khalil is my starting left tackle, even though he hasn't done **** to earn it.
Johnson has out performed everyone he's put at left tackle.
Scharping and Howard suppose to playing tackle. But are getting 90% reps at the guard position.
Watson healthy suppose to be key. But we're still shifting the line up like the season isn't around the corner.
Khalil is my starting left tackle, even though he hasn't done **** to earn it.
Johnson has out performed everyone he's put at left tackle.
Scharping and Howard suppose to playing tackle. But are getting 90% reps at the guard position.
Watson healthy suppose to be key. But we're still shifting the line up like the season isn't around the corner.
Really bizarre handling of the OL. He really gonna start two washed up vet's and two rookies.
I take offense to that. I didn't know BO'b before he got here. But I gave him a shot. From first TC he's been rubbing me the wrong way.
& still ain't done anything worth talking about.
9-0 with a porous OL didn't do anything for you?
You probably didn't like him because his personality is so much different from Kubiak's. I bet you loved Kubiak, (I like Kubiak as a man.) Truth is they were both mediocre HC's while they are/were here.
If BOB wins 10 games with this schedule I think he will have done a great job and in the playoffs alot of fate comes down to health and officials not rigging games like the Saints game last yr.
Kubiak was an excellent offensive coach and won a super bowl.
O'Brien is good at what?
One doesn't have to love Kubiak to dislike O'Brien.
Wackier still is it really isn't that difficult for anyone to judge either one of them completely independent of the other.
So how about we try and breakdown the guy currently in charge of this team's mediocrity, eh?
Wackier still is it really isn't that difficult for anyone to judge either one of them completely independent of the other.
So how about we try and breakdown the guy currently in charge of this team's mediocrity, eh?
With an all time great defense. He was an avg HC while he was here. Ask yourself why was he better in Denver than he was in Houston? Kubiak has an excellent offensive mind but is way too conservative.
True, what dont you like about BOB that you liked about Kubiak.
They were/are both mediocre HC's they just went about achieving mediocrity in different ways. Look at their records.
I agree kubiak is an excellent offensive mind. O'Brien is definitely not
Until they get the OL fixed and stay relatively healthy they will remain mediocre. One things finally clear, we know who's in charge of football operations now and if last yr is an indication, if WFV can stay healthy this team can be much better than it was last yr. A healthy Coutee (Thanks BOB for having him in in a meaningless preseason game when all of the other WR's weren't playing) wouldn't hurt a thing, inspite of what's most likely going to be a bottom tier OL again this yr.
Would you agree they both were/are way too conservative. It used to make me mad when they would light it up in the 1st half and try to sit on a lead in the 2nd half under Kubiak.
banned1976
sleeper mode
I voted no.
I'm with you.
I think so, yes.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Exactly..
I liked how Kubiak could teach & implement an Offensive system.
I don't like how BO'b can't.
Right now, if we win 10 games I'm going to give all the credit to Watson unless BO'b implements an offensive system that utilizes Watson's abilities. If Watson is always pulling rabbits out of hats, Mr Magoo could be our HC.
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Kubiak didn't win a SB here, or even make it to the AFCCG
Uncle Rico
Ur apology should be as loud as Ur disrespect was
Differences in how these coaches deal with the same exact situation: https://twitter.com/strosfaniknow/status/1163626059406938115?s=21
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Correctamundo! Kubiak hasn't been here for 6 years. Don't give a flying flip what he woulda/coulda/shoulda done or been, if he's better than OB or not. It doesn't matter. He hasn't been here for 6 years, OB has, and still is.
Gave OB the benefit of doubt when he was hired. Let's see what he's got. Well, we've seen it for 5 years now and that's plenty enough for me. Next.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I’ll take things that have nothing to do with each other for $1000, Alex.
I like BOB's response.
He made osweiler look good. Obrien couldn't quite do that.
I don't know. If normally sure handed receivers would have caught three passes Os laid up for them....
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
If Coutee had been held out till the regular season, he would have just been knocked out in the 1st quarter of game 1. Six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Would have helped only a little. He had 3 interceptions and the Texans punted 8 times. They had one scoring drive over 18 yards.
The sadder thing is how the offense looked just as bad with Watson as QB and the colts as the opponent
People rightly talk about LT, but I don't think RT is in any better shape
One of them was an offensive genius while he was here , the other one was touted as some offensive genius and has been poor to middling … and cant even figure out what scheme he wants to run , its suppose to change by opponent - Do what you do and do it well damnit , don't let the other team dictate what you do.
Yeah , its gonna be tough to get 10+ w's.
If that's the case , why are we paying attention to this crap ??
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
I don't listen to anything that ******* loser says. Let him gain even a semblance of credibility and maybe his words will matter even the slightest.
Agreed Kubiak was better at scheming plays, but what does it really matter if you're good at that and jump out to a big halftime lead and then try to sit on that lead. This is also one thing that bothers me about BOB, he scores 30 plus in Foxboro 2 seasons ago and has a hot Watson at QB. He chose to play it safe and take the fg giving the Texans a 5 pt lead with 2 mins left to play. Brady then drove the Pats down the field for the winning TD. If BOB had gone for the 1st down instead of the FG and gotten it the game would have been over. Both Kubiak and BOB are too conservative for my tastes.
10 wins is going to be tough and BOB is going to have to go for the win when he gets into situations like the one I described, which will happen playing the QB"s they are facing this year. That's if they want to get to 10 wins. Provided WFV stays healthy and Miller too for that matter.
I don't follow pro football like I used too since God'ell took over. But I still follow college football closely and love scouting for the draft. I do still follow the Texas NFL teams. It's really sad what the NFL has become under God"Ella leadership. Like the great Jack Whitaker said, the SB game has become something they do between commercials and the halftime show. But I guess I should expect this with the current bastardized version of today's NFL.
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LOL, I would like to have found out.
What makes a loser in your world?
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
No he didn't, Osweiler had one good game against a Pats team that had been preparing for Manning. Just about any QB can have one good game and the whole thing about Kubiak's offense strategy in Denver was run the clock down, don't turn it over, get what points you can with the least risk and then let the defense win it. That's why he benched Osweiler, because Osweiler wanted to show he was a franchise QB and actually be aggressive and Manning just wanted to get one last ring and manage the game. I'm not knocking it, it worked, but lets not pretend that it showed the amazing offensive mind and HC abilities of Kubiak.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Anyone giving a lot of credit to Kubiak for that SB gets laughed at. That SB was won with pure defense and that was the worst Broncos offense they had since Tebow was there. Wade's defense won that and the team was in the same category as the Bucs and the Ravens who won with strictly defense.
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So then why did the Texans give him a huge contract after that season?
He still had to make sure the offense didn't ruin everything like OBriens offense always does in the playoffs. He had to change to a ball control offense with that personnel. And he stillll had to call plays, timeouts and challenge flags which OBrien isn't good at.
Also it was his first year in Denver. It's year 6 here and OBrien gets a pass because he didn't have his QB, or there were injuries, or he was missing some other player
nut
Veteran
Because they were being stupid. We were starved for a QB. BO's quarterbacks had been Fitzmagic, Keenum, Savage, Yates, Mallet, Hoyer (leave anybody out?) They never checked out Osweiler, they just took him, sight unseen. It was like buying him on EBay. Caveat emptor, buyer beware.
Texansballer74
The Marine
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Really, that's your argument now? You really are scrapping the bottom of the barrel but I'll bite. The Texans were desperate for a QB after Hoyer did his newborn baby impression and Hopkins expressed his shall we say, unhappiness. There was no way in hell they were going to be able to draft a QB worth drafting so the only choice they had was F/A. In F/A Osweiler was by far the best choice, he did have a good game against NE, he was just coming off a SB winning team and Elway seemed to think he was worth the money. If you don't use hindsight, I know its hard but try, all the signs pointed to him being, if not the fix then at least a good enough band aid so we didn't have another Hoyer. You want to blame BoB for putting us into the situation where we had to get Osweiler fine, i agree with you. However, no coach could make Osweiler into an NFL starter. You want proof look at how many times he's been bounced around since then even landed back in Denver. Coaches may call bad plays but throwing interceptions is entirely on the QB.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
So if Kubiak did such a great job then why was Manning, a Hof QB, the league's worst QB that year? I actually don't blame Kubiak for that but if we are going to give him credit for Osweiler having a good game while there and then blame BoB for Osweiler sucking here then we have to be fair. That defense saved the team's collective butts way more than the Texans defense ever has.
Also the fact that it was his first year proves he had very little to do with building and coaching the team, Kubiak was handed a race car that was already on the track towards a SB win. He just had to make sure he didn't drive it off the road and he did that so kudos to him. But when it came to building the team and leading it from start to finish, like when he was with us, he had no more success that BoB has had. The holes and problems were in different places but they were still there.
Texansballer74
The Marine
To be fair we all knew Manning was done. That neck injury was serious. Dude could barely throw the ball 20 yards down the field.
Manning could barely throw ten yards. His body was falling apart
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
I don't disagree and in fact said I don't blame Kubiak for that but if we are going to give him credit for "made Osweiler look good" something no other NFL coach has been able to do since and blame BoB for Osweiler looking bad, something that we also have to blame every coach Osweiler has had since, then Kubiak should get the blame for Manning looking bad. You see how stupid this can get when you just try and blame all a team's problems on one person. That last sentence was directed at Kdog not you TB74.
Yr 2 without being saddled with RS.
This is yr 2 of the 3yrs it's going to take to clean up the mess that RS left. 11 wins was a good start though.