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And that may be the ONE thing Cal could have an even shot at defending himself of being!Same kind of thing could (and should) happen here with the McNair's and the Texans if they knew something was afoul. If they didn't know, it sounds like they were willingly ignorant.
Posted March 2021..........right after the first lawsuits were filed:I forgot - this all was around COVID. We’re the Texans not taking the right precautions? Were they fudging the numbers? Are they going to face penalties for that?
On a less sensationalistic, more pragmatic note - in March of 2020 with COVID-19 at its scariest and the entire world sheltering in place to avoid the spread of a disease that for the most part we didn't understand how deadly it was or have a good grasp on how transmittable it was... at that time Watson was 1) trolling Instagram for massages from complete strangers; 2) spending extended periods of time in close quarters with these women (potential viral load); 3) taking whatever he might have exposed himself to back to teammates and friends/family/employees and by extension their friends/family/employees; 4) exposing himself as the franchise QB to a potentially damaging or deadly disease.
Think how strong the compulsion must be to not only put yourself in grave danger but also those closest to you? We didn't know squat about COVID in March/April/May/June/June when he had those earlier appointments per the lawsuits. As a matter of fact, his lawsuits account for every single COVID month from the beginning in March 2020 to January 2021, skipping only February 2021 (not including the 4 latest suits) but including this month we're still in right now. Earlier this very month, after the alleged extorsion attempts and after his agent/attorney had had multiple contacts with plaintiffs attorney Buzbee... he was powerless to stop himself from doing it again. What word best describes this type of behavior?
Posted March 2021..........right after the first lawsuits were filed:
No, go back a few posts and listen to the podcast that doc provided. That guy saying absolutely no way Baker Mayfield plays for Cleveland. That ship has sailed.Looking more and more like Baker Mayfield will be the Browns future QB.
No, go back a few posts and listen to the podcast that doc provided. That guy saying absolutely no way Baker Mayfield plays for Cleveland. That ship has sailed.
So we woke up this morning knowing that Jack Easterby showed up in Houston masquerading as Jimmy Swaggart, all the while being a pimp for Deshaun Watson while trying to turn the Houstonian Hotel into a whorehouse. Is that about right?
So who would get Kenyon green and John Metchie?I could see the NFL fining them the picks they got via trade when its all sorted out.
Yeah the filing occurred yesterdayTexans aren't going to lose any draft picks.. they haven't even been officially filed against in the lawsuits, despite Buzbee threatening to add them.
Yeah the filing occurred yesterday
Did it. Nevermind then. Still don't think they'll get hit.
People will believe what they want to. I want to believe that this is a case of kids trying to hide things from their parents. I also can’t believe that the Houstonian security group failed to catch a whorehouse involving the biggest sport celebs in Houston Coming and going without questioning their actions.Someone went through the whole 42 page lawsuit and here is the summary on it:
People will believe what they want to. I want to believe that this is a case of kids trying to hide things from their parents. I also can’t believe that the Houstonian security group failed to catch a whorehouse involving the biggest sport celebs in Houston Coming and going without questioning their actions.
Wonder exactly how the Texans responded at that point? I mean is it even conceivable that Cal, Janice and NC were sitting around joking about how DW was forcing women to put fingers up his butt and being a human squirt gun on distraught women? No way.the lawsuit claims that at some point the Houstonian contacted the Texans about the optics
Wonder exactly how the Texans responded at that point?
That really doesn't look good. Talk about a pimp!From page 22 of the lawsuit against the Texans (Honn is the owner of Genuine Touch.......the massage therapy company contracted by the Texans):
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Despit knowning Watson's aberrant actions with her employee, she continued to supply him with their services.
If that dude helped to facilitate it he probably damn sure wasn’t going to tell the FO. I doubt he probably even had a clue as to the depth of the sleaze.I only remember this mention
from page 7
“Texans’ trainer Roland Ramirez had received several complaints by the general manager at the Houstonian regarding Watson and the number of women coming to Watson’s room there.”
I did not expect for it to go into a second day. I sort of thought it was a done deal.
So since it happened, we've cleaned house other than Easterby.Surely the Texans were aware of Watson's ongoing shenanigans. The trainer provided a massage table, Head of Security provided an NDA, and the Houstonian filed a complaint with the Texans for what they perceived as inappropriate, disturbing, and alarming behavior. Genuine Touch the massage company contracted by the Texans noted Watsons disturbing behavior with the Texans. All of these happened months before Watson signed his new 2nd 5-year contract for $177MM. Are we to believe that the Texans ignored all of this, failed to do their due diligence, and blindly offered up the biggest contract in team history?
My guess is Goodell is going to get what Goodell wants. I would say Watson is toast.
I do not understand this. I thought the NFL presented their side and then Harden presented his side as in closing Arguments for example and then Robinson made the decision. Either side then had three days to appeal. I could understand both sides presenting today and then Robinson presenting the decision sometime this week.
I hope that is 100% the case!My guess is Goodell is going to get what Goodell wants. I would say Watson is toast.
I thought this was between the NFL & the NFLPAthen Harden presented his side as in closing Arguments
I think you nailed it however I am more worried now about if the Texans are toast.My guess is Goodell is going to get what Goodell wants. I would say Watson is toast.
Yes but I thought I read somewhere in the last 2 days that Watson would have his point of view presented by Rusty Hardin. Perhaps somebody can clarify that?I thought this was between the NFL & the NFLPA
Surely the Texans were aware of Watson's ongoing shenanigans. The trainer provided a massage table for off-property use, the Head of Security provided an NDA, and the Houstonian filed a complaint with the Texans for what they perceived as inappropriate, disturbing, and alarming behavior. Genuine Touch the massage company contracted by the Texans contacted the Texans and noted Watson's disturbing behavior. All of these happened months before Watson signed his new 2nd 5-year contract for $177MM. Are we to believe that the Texans ignored all of this, failed to do their due diligence, and blindly offered up the biggest contract in team history?
Yes but I thought I read somewhere in the last 2 days that Watson would have his point of view presented by Rusty Hardin. Perhaps somebody can clarify that?
Thinking about this and Goodell's inaction. Hindsight is 20/20, but once these allegations became public, the criminal investigation and the civil suits, should he have just suspended Watson indefinitely under the personal conduct policy? In other words, this process today should have taken place during training camp last year.My guess is Goodell is going to get what Goodell wants. I would say Watson is toast.
It would be wild if Watson got a slap on the wrist and the Texans lost high draft picks and a huge fine.
It would be wild if Watson got a slap on the wrist and the Texans lost high draft picks and a huge fine.
Thinking about this and Goodell's inaction. Hindsight is 20/20, but once these allegations became public, the criminal investigation and the civil suits, should he have just suspended Watson indefinitely under the personal conduct policy? In other words, this process today should have taken place during training camp last year.
I think this is a case of bad reporting. I had to read several times. The NFL INSIST on an INDEFINITE suspension but will ABIDE to a much lesser penalty doesn't make sense too me.I do not understand this. I thought the NFL presented their side and then Harden presented his side as in closing Arguments for example and then Robinson made the decision. Either side then had three days to appeal. I could understand both sides presenting today and then Robinson presenting the decision sometime this week.
I think this is a case of bad reporting. I had to read several times. The NFL INSIST on an INDEFINITE suspension but will ABIDE to a much lesser penalty doesn't make sense too me.
Why didn’t DW just keep this stuff at his home? Why throw out media chum at the Houstonian? This stuff ain’t adding up. If the Texans knew DW had issues why would they set him up at the Houstonian? Why not in the middle of Main Street during rush hour traffic? There is some other ulterior motive going on but it’s not as juicy as gossip. For one I believe Buzzbee settled the cases he knew were on shaky ground and kept the few where he thought he could have a chance without those others negatively influencing them. He has no clue if the FO was aware of the extent of DW’s actions but a trainer gave him a wall to throw pasta at. At any rate the FO just has to sit there and refuse to dignify his questions.I believe they knew something was going on, but not to that extent.
With what you said, if they knew then Derrick should have definitely been made to play out his 5th year option. Of course the Texans org has done some really dumb things over years as you well know.
Yes but I thought I read somewhere in the last 2 days that Watson would have his point of view presented by Rusty Hardin. Perhaps somebody can clarify that?
I hear this guy Jeffrey Kessler is there representing the NFLPA for Watson.
Meet Tom Brady's Lawyer: NFL Archenemy Jeffrey Kessler
Mention the name Jeffrey Kessler—a key figure in the Deflategate scandal after being hired as Tom Brady 's lawyer and one of the most important men in recent league history—to ...syndication.bleacherreport.com
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