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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson
- Thread starter Texansballer74
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badboy
Hall of Fame
We don't know if she was lying or not. We just don't. That's why we need to let evidence speak.
I don't think a threat to slander her "business" is enough coercion.
I personally would like a new owner either way. Would really hate it though if he were to take the team elsewhere as did Bud…
We almost got this one trained.
I wonder if Hannah is sharper than Cal?
Her business is what puts food on the table and a roof over her head .... You don't think the threat of losing that is "enough coercion."?
Imagine if your livelihood was suddenly gone and you had to start over in another field because you had been blackballed ?
I'm just not seeing it. I can't imagine you dropping to your knees just because Jj Watt said he's going to smear your business.
I wouldn't , I'd tell him to go bleep himself.
But what you or I would do is irrelevant to the law.
The law states that you cannot "threaten" someone to compel them to do X.
Threatening someone to compel sexual activity is , by law rape / sexual assault.
Consent has to be freely given , not compelled. No matter how veiled or insignificant you or I may believe those threats to be , they are threats & the individual in question may have felt differently , particularly in that moment.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I’ve heard a lot of stories about the movie/TV entertainment business. Managers and directors taking advantage of women actors just like that. Using their power to get what they wanted. That’s the reason why these women are coming out now. I knew a Kentucky Friend Chicken manager who would hire only pretty women and he also would use his influence to get what he wanted.
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Those situations are totally different. I don’t think it applies here.
I’m not seeing. I don’t think I ever will. I’m out of this discussion.
Texansballer74
The Marine
There’s no need to dip out of the discussion because you just don’t see it.
Watson is a millionaire NFL football star. Therefore, he could very well use his power over some of these women. Could that young lady be lying: yes but she could be telling the truth as well.
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powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I see it. Compelling someone to do something by whatever influence necessary be it political, religiously, financially, etc.
During a pandemic it's even more extreme when so many businesses are on the brink of collapse. Bad advertising from a local celebrity could easily ruin an entrepreneur.
I see the weight and threat of it.
During a pandemic it's even more extreme when so many businesses are on the brink of collapse. Bad advertising from a local celebrity could easily ruin an entrepreneur.
I see the weight and threat of it.
Shocking that you made this post.
Buzbee will year this line of thinking up if this goes to court.
Hey Steel where is your buddy Buzzbutt these days ? You know the last we heard from him which was during his honeymoon when he was attempting to sharpen his social media persona with a very cavalier attitude about his allegedly initial experience with a masseur.
1st of all, he's not my buddy, I've never met the man.
2nd of all it's going to be atleast a yr before this goes to trial and we will hear plenty from Buzbee then. I cant wait, it should make for great entertainment.
On a side note I bet the Pervert wishes Buzbee would've become the mayor.
Here's a tough question for you, and don't hedge:
Would you rather see DW4 behind bars or the Texans trade him for three first round picks & multiple other mid round picks ?
Let me ask you, if you bought a 1970 GTO Judge at market value, but found out it was a dressed up Lemans after driving it for four years, would you try to sell it for a profit, or dump it for whatever you can get?
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Not a tough question at all
Behind bars, if proven guilty. This is where people who are serial sexual predators should end up.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
In this specific instance only (not the other accusations), I think the thing to concentrate on is did Watson say what is being claimed. Whether she performed it or not, he can not make that type of statement and if so should be held accountable for it. Joking or with intent, you just can't do those types of things.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I had a 67 GTO convertible gold with a black top. I also had a 1970 Dodge Super Bee. Okay back to the debate!
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badboy
Hall of Fame
Good point. How do you prove that he said it? Are there any text messages or any other type comments in which he said that? I am not talking about apologizing for making somebody uncomfortable cuz we don't know what they were uncomfortable about.
Texansballer74
The Marine
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What do you think made them uncomfortable? Was it the Perverts bad breath? Or could it be that he asked for sexual services, just like he asked the women who admitted to having consensual sex with? The difference was some agreed to have sex with him and others didn't. You can bet those that didn't agree not only got paid the bare minimum but the Pervert let it be known that he could make or break their careers. This is why I want the Pervert to go to jail for a long time if found guilty. People who use their positions in life to force people to do what they want and when they whatever they want.
I dont just think this way about the Pervert, but people in all walks of life. These type people are usually very selfish people who think they're untouchable.
You'd choose that over the Texans getting all of those high picks, dank what about our comeback, our resurrection ?
I really don't think that's a comparable analogy which is what I think you are attempting, but I'm really not sure ?
Football is secondary for me when it comes to the things the Pervert is accused of doing and I'm a guy who really doesn't care much about what players do in their personal lives. If found guilty this crosses the line for me.
It’s a perfect analogy. The Texans thought they were getting the real deal. They got a bill of goods.
amazing80
Hall of Fame
This is and has been my stance. The ladies will have an uphill battle proving their story. The truth is meaningless if they can't prove it (sad but true). At this point, there still hasn't been enough evidence to prove their story. Until/unless something changes, I don't see this being anything other than DW4 eventually paying them money.
The real question from the fans perspective is what the options are for dealing with him. At this point they have to be hoping he no-shows training camp so they can fine his ass.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Not enough evidence from the public's perspective. We have no idea what evidence there actually is.
If they do have evidence he should be charged and face trial.
Dejaview
All Pro
Odd question. Why not just say do you like the guy as a person or not? Otherwise seems he should be behind bars if his actions warrant it or traded if they don’t. The worst scenario and one thats got the NFL, not to mention this country, in a downward spiral is if this just gets swept under the rug because justice Is just what those in power and wealth say it is.
banned1976
sleeper mode
Does the prospective buyer know it’s a Lemans?
People know what Watson is, they know what he’s accused of.
Yes by all means, why not just say that, and thankfully we have you Dejaview to ask that question.
And a lot of questions need to asked.
Yep that's what I'm talking about too, show me the evidence.
OK now I see your point - I'm kinda dense so folks need to often explain things to me.
Yep,
I just wanted to post, that whether he's found guilty or not, that I dont like the guy because I dont like people in power who use their positon in life to take advantage of another person.
Everybody already knows I think he was overrated as a player and I'm not talking about a player in the massage parlors.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
This was a forgone conclusion to force the next step by either the Texans or the NFL. Wouldn't it be ironic if he and the Texans settle their differences and move forward together?
Or he just was not going to miss out on 50k a day. He also wasn’t getting on the CEL that easy after his stunt
Texansballer74
The Marine
I think that ship has sunk.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If guilty….behind bars and never mention his name again on this site.
If not guilty…..highest bidder and then never mention his name again on this site.
If not guilty…..he decides to honor his contract, apologizes to the team ownership, players, fans, and the City of Houston….then he’s QB1, Taylor- QB2, and Mills- QB3. Optimal situation since Mills would get to develop at a slower rate and Taylor would be a solid backup should he be called on. Watson would have 2-3 seasons to rebuild his image and the Texans could really cash in at some point.
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The fact that he still wants a trade has shown he has learned nothing
Number19
Hall of Fame
No it hasn't, if thinking only of the 2021 season. If he shows, and I laid out several weeks ago why he would, the Texans are going to be paying him his $10M base salary for 2021.
It is intirely reasonable, and I believe likely, that Goodell will not be placing Watson on the exempt list this early in the legal process. This would mean he could spend all or part of two seasons on the list; because the legal issues may not be resolved until 2023.
Unless a trade comes down the pike, the Texans would have no other choice than to have him activated. And are the Texans going to sit him?
The Texans could very well have it in mind to trade him at the soonest opportune time, but in the meantime, their chances of winning goes up remarkably with him under center. Not to mention, if he would have another outstanding season, his market market value would increase.
No, I think it intirely possible Watson plays and starts for the Texans this season, if he shows and indicates his willingness to play.
I know better than to make too many posts in this thread because nuance gets lost when trying to make a point on this subject. However, why is that shocking? I think you misread my point. I'm saying it's wrong or chauvinistic for people to assume that in the moment of making a moral decision to participate in these alleged activities, of all of the things to cross their minds would be future clients and earnings.
Again, it's easy to have the viewpoint while never being in that situation and having a view from the peanut gallery, but of all the reasons to go along with these alleged shenanigans, I don't know if future clients or earning potential is enough of a reason to participate. Especially if a reference from an alleged "Pervert" might lead to more perverts visiting you.
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So what’s your asking price?
Forgone if you ignored everything he’s been saying.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Watson has officially reported at TC for testing with the other Texans QBs.
Well, they are lawyers, so they're used to wallowing in the mud.
This is shocking. Everyone expected for Watson to sit out training camp, and throughout the upcoming season. Houston can’t trade Watson until next offseason—to ensure how much draft capital they would receive in a trade. Watson has his own legal issues going on, and if the league does or doesn’t suspend him needs to be worked out as well. This would be a lost season for both Houston, and Watson, as we fast forward to 2022. Now here we are and Watson is headed to training camp.
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Breaking News: Deshaun Watson Expected to Report to Houston Texans Training Camp - Battle Red Blog
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Shocking ?
Dunno about that, but atlesat mildly surprising as most did expect a no show by DW4 at TC.
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Breaking News: Deshaun Watson Expected to Report to Houston Texans Training Camp - Battle Red Blog
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Shocking ?
Dunno about that, but atlesat mildly surprising as most did expect a no show by DW4 at TC.