Man o man, talking about grasping at straws, whew. Got absolutely nothing from 10 sec piece bit. You could extrapolate a dozen different scenarios from that sound bite and not one of them be right.
Looked kinda boardroomish to me.
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Man o man, talking about grasping at straws, whew. Got absolutely nothing from 10 sec piece bit. You could extrapolate a dozen different scenarios from that sound bite and not one of them be right.
I don't necessarily think that rebuilding a 3-11 team is a simple task.I think that people forget that prior to being hired by Kraft, Belichick had some really miserable years as the HC of the Browns (only 1 winning season out of 5). Despite that, after the Jets signed Belichick as HC only 1 day before, Kraft gave the Jets a 1st round pick to make Belichick the Patriots HC. Almost immediately, he was given GM privileges with final say on football matters. His first year there he went 5-11. The next year, Brady took the reigns..........and from there, it's history.
Maybe because he ain't BB.
But he doesn't let BOB operate the way Kraft lets BB operate. Acquire talent, instead he's got Ricky, who's not very good at his job acquiring the talent.
I think that people forget that prior to being hired by Kraft, Belichick had some really miserable years as the HC of the Browns (only 1 winning season out of 5). Despite that, after the Jets signed Belichick as HC only 1 day before, Kraft gave the Jets a 1st round pick to make Belichick the Patriots HC. Almost immediately, he was given GM privileges with final say on football matters. His first year there he went 5-11. The next year, Brady took the reigns..........and from there, it's history.
There you go again putting words in my mouth. I don't think I ever said there was such a thing as a totally hands off owner. Those are your words not mine. What I did say is there are owners who are much more hands off than the average and ordinary mediocre owners whose winning percentage is .500 or below. I also said these mostly hands off owners consistent winning success comes from staying out the way and letting the person that they hired to do what that person does best. Now does that owner want an update on what's going on? Sure he does. Will he from time to time make or override a decision? Sure he does. Does he do it as often as Jerah or Bob. Not even close.That's my point. All owners are in on major decisions; first round picks, big money extensions, whether the HC can sign someone with issues (see Kaepernick).
Bottom line: There's no such thing as a "totally hands off" owner. It's just a matter of how often he decides to overrule his "football people" like Rooney did.
We will never know because he ain't gonna get the chance.
Do you know Belichick's history before becoming HC of the Patriots?
Compare his resume to Billy's. One learned from the best (until he became the best) the other learned from George O'Leary. One was forged in the NFL. The other was just another college assistant.
I think that people forget that prior to being hired by Kraft, Belichick had some really miserable years as the HC of the Browns (only 1 winning season out of 5). Despite that, after the Jets signed Belichick as HC only 1 day before, Kraft gave the Jets a 1st round pick to make Belichick the Patriots HC. Almost immediately, he was given GM privileges with final say on football matters. His first year there he went 5-11. The next year, Brady took the reigns..........and from there, it's history.
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Do you know Belichick's history before becoming HC of the Patriots?
Compare his resume to Billy's. One learned from the best (until he became the best) the other learned from George O'Leary. One was forged in the NFL. The other was just another college assistant.
Why would he let an inexperienced HC that type of power without showing he's worthy first?
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Smith played as a freshman at Purdue but redshirted his sophomore year. It was an unusual situation and one he admits to not handling especially well.
That year Smith tried to coast, thinking even if he didn't pass or complete all of his classes, he would get by. Unfortunately for him, Purdue installed a new rule that year, requiring students to have enough credits to be on pace to graduate.
He took an incomplete in a class, became academically ineligible, and had to leave Purdue for the first semester of his junior year. He spent a semester at a junior college, rudely awoken and vowing never to let something like that happen again.
"It was all because I was hanging out," Smith said. "It wasn't because it was academically challenging. I wasn't doing what I was supposed to be doing."
During that time, Franklin Smith offered these words of wisdom to his son: Mistakes don't define a person; responses to mistakes do.
"He was very much aware that I was disappointed," Franklin Smith said. "He said to me, 'This is the last time that I will fail you,' or something to that effect. He said, 'I didn't do everything that I was supposed to do, but I will come back, and I will be better, and I will be stronger than I was before.' My thought was, 'Those are words. You've got to prove it.' "
Purdue changed coaches while Rick Smith was away, and he had to talk new coach Jim Colletto into giving him a second chance. He got one. He said he never got less than a B in a class after that and became a team captain for Colletto his senior year.
"The lesson I learned in that was to take care of my business and to make sure I did everything I was responsible for doing," Smith said.
He learned just enough wasn't enough. LINK
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Bill O'Brien at Brown University earned a bachelor of arts, double major in political science and organizational behavior management. He then went on to earn a master's degree in public policy. As of 2012, he was halfway through a master’s in public policy that dated back to his Georgia Tech days as a graduate assistant.
I have searched extensively for the specific degree that Smith earned in college. Strangely enough, in all of his references, so far no luck anywhere. Only allusions to the fact that he attended college. Just curious, can anyone find this info?
This is why I wanted them to hire an experienced HC.
The reason why is because Ricky isn't very good at his job and BOB understands how the Pats go about their business. I want the Texans to go about their business like the Pats do.
While we're talking about this, What has Ricky accomplished to show he's worthy of that kind of power? Truth is they both should be gone and an experienced winner needs to be brought in to run this franchise.
Why would he let an inexperienced HC that type of power without showing he's worthy first?
There you go again putting words in my mouth. I don't think I ever said there was such a thing as a totally hands off owner. Those are your words not mine. What I did say is there are owners who are much more hands off than the average and ordinary mediocre owners whose winning percentage is .500 or below. I also said these mostly hands off owners consistent winning success comes from staying out the way and letting the person that they hired to do what that person does best. Now does that owner want an update on what's going on? Sure he does. Will he from time to time make or override a decision? Sure he does. Does he do it as often as Jerah or Bob. Not even close.
So the time Billy spent with the "best" doesn't count?
I wonder if Randy Moss was a Belichick acquisition. One thing about Belichick guys, they're without a doubt team players where Moss wad a "me" player. Sure, he assimilated well when he was there. But he was never a team guy, I don't think.
Ocho Cinco was another guy that really didn't fit in. Doesn't seem like a Belichick acquisition & he never fit in.
While we're talking about this, What has Ricky accomplished to show he's worthy of that kind of power? Truth is they both should be gone and an experienced winner needs to be brought in to run this franchise.
I think that people forget that prior to being hired by Kraft, Belichick had some really miserable years as the HC of the Browns (only 1 winning season out of 5). Despite that, after the Jets signed Belichick as HC only 1 day before, Kraft gave the Jets a 1st round pick to make Belichick the Patriots HC. Almost immediately, he was given GM privileges with final say on football matters. His first year there he went 5-11. The next year, Brady took the reigns..........and from there, it's history.
Randy loves Belichcik and nothing but good things to say about him and Belichick has high praise for Randy.I wonder if Randy Moss was a Belichick acquisition. One thing about Belichick guys, they're without a doubt team players where Moss wad a "me" player. Sure, he assimilated well when he was there. But he was never a team guy, I don't think.
Ocho Cinco was another guy that really didn't fit in. Doesn't seem like a Belichick acquisition & he never fit in.
The next year, Brady took the reigns..........and from there, it's history.
Injuries can turn anything on a dime.If not for Mo Lewis, it might and probably would be an entirely different history
Injuries can turn anything on a dime.
A little off the subject, but NE traded Randy 2 days after their Monday night game where there was a blowup between him and Bill O'Brien during half time.Randy loves Belichick and nothing but good things to say about him and Belichick has high praise for Randy.
A little off the subject, but NE traded Randy 2 days after their Monday night game where there was a blowup between him and Bill O'Brien during half time.
Agreed. Just having fun w/ another one of BoB's episodes with one of his players -- I'm sure Randy had it coming. I don't think he was as bad as the media made him out to be (while he was playing) but on occasion he would get selfish and it seems to me that the BoB incident was the last straw and NE was the type of team that wasn't going to put up with it.Must've not been any hard feelings afterward because Moss came out to Texans camp last year to talk to and work with the receivers. He was personally invited by OB.
Randy wanted to be paid, Coach said heck no. So Randy had to take his frustration out on somebody and it was Bill O'Brien.A little off the subject, but NE traded Randy 2 days after their Monday night game where there was a blowup between him and Bill O'Brien during half time.
I was trying to keep things realistic.
Hope you and yours are doing well after the storm in PA.
Luckily enough, most everyone made it through in good shape. My mom got water in her house, so did my sister-in-law. But, no was stranded or in need of rescue, no one got hurt.... all's good.
& I moved to Spring two weeks before the storm.
Luckily enough, most everyone made it through in good shape. My mom got water in her house, so did my sister-in-law. But, no was stranded or in need of rescue, no one got hurt.... all's good.
& I moved to Spring two weeks before the storm.
Aren't you the one who tried to pass off a tinfoil hat scenario off of just this picture?
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Luckily enough, most everyone made it through in good shape. My mom got water in her house, so did my sister-in-law. But, no was stranded or in need of rescue, no one got hurt.... all's good.
& I moved to Spring two weeks before the storm.
Wow. I can't imagine what I would do if I had to go through that. Thankfully they got out ok.
The home my where parents had lived in Groves, near Memorial High, had 4 in of water in it, and it is on piers. My nephew owns it now.
Never though that place would flood.
If not for Mo Lewis, it might and probably would be an entirely different history
If Brady and Bilichek followed Manning into retirement, would this MB have drastic reduction in posts?
Aren't you the one who tried to pass off a tinfoil hat scenario off of just this picture?
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Ricky is the only one in that pic that seems to be happy.
Shock with a touch of disbelief seems to be the theme in the room. IMHO
I interpret as Ricky is estactic about knowing what is coming, OB is either dialing Watson or getting a text and everyone else is either looking for the announcement or working on the next pick.
A picture is worth a thousand words but only if you can read the language...
J/S that you read into it what you want it to say
Yep, all of those guys on the left by Ricky are deeply thinking about the next pick. The only person that is looking thrilled in that pic is Ricky.
Denial is a wonderful thing. I wish I could be as content as you are after looking at that pic. Looks like a house divided to me. A theme that started before the season ended and continued into the offseason. I imagine it will continue into this season and I dont see things ending well, even if the Texans do well this season.
It is amazing how much you can read into a photo which captures a split-second frozen in time. I wonder what the picture looked like in the second before or after that moment and if it would support the rampant speculation going on here?
Yep, all of those guys on the left by Ricky are deeply thinking about the next pick. The only person that is looking thrilled in that pic is Ricky.
Denial is a wonderful thing. I wish I could be as content as you are after looking at that pic. Looks like a house divided to me. A theme that started before the season ended and continued into the offseason. I imagine it will continue into this season and I dont see things ending well, even if the Texans do well this season.
It is what it is.
You believe everybody in that pic was thrilled with the pic?
This isn't the 1st pic of the Texans warroom that has looked like this. I've been saying that there's been dissention in the Texans org for the last yr. Now pics come out that appear to confirm this and this is the best response the sunshiners can come up with. BTW this still doesn't mean the Texans cant have a successful season, or even if they do things wont end badly.
Rah Rah.
It is what it is.
You believe everybody in that pic was thrilled with the pic?
This isn't the 1st pic of the Texans warroom that has looked like this. I've been saying that there's been dissention in the Texans org for the last yr. Now pics come out that appear to confirm this and this is the best response the sunshiners can come up with. BTW this still doesn't mean the Texans cant have a successful season, or even if they do things wont end badly.
Rah Rah.