Offensive Line - Sacks Allowed (2015)

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  1. WolverineFan

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    Went back and re-watched game tapes for this season to see how the pass protection was. Now, note ahead of time that I don't have enough time to go back and watch every snap of every game, so I have no idea who gave up how many pressures over the entire season. I was able to go back and review every sack though and this is what I came up with.

    *Half sacks are where two guys screwed up. For example, there was one where Aboushi and Blue combined to blow a blitz pickup.

    LT
    Duane Brown - 3 Sacks Allowed
    Chris Clark - 1 Sack Allowed

    LG
    Xavier Su'a-Filo - 2 Sacks Allowed
    Oday Aboushi - 1.5 Sacks Allowed
    Jeff Adams - 1 Sack Allowed

    C
    Ben Jones - 2 Sacks Allowed

    RG
    Brandon Brooks - 3 Sacks Allowed
    Derek Newton - 1.5 Sacks Allowed

    RT
    Derek Newton - 5 Sacks Allowed
    Chris Clark - 3.5 Sacks Allowed

    RB
    Alfred Blue - 0.5 Sacks Allowed

    Total Sacks Allowed
    Newton - 6.5
    Clark - 4.5
    Brown - 3
    Brooks - 3
    Su'a-Filo - 2
    Jones - 2
    Aboushi - 1.5
    Adams - 1
    Blue - 0.5


    **Notice that the blockers gave up 24 Sacks (by my subjective judgement obviously). However, we allowed 39 Sacks over 17 games this year. So who accounts for the other 15 Sacks? That would be our QB's, who held the damn ball way too long on many occasions this year.

    They did this by...
    a) Standing clueless in the pocket and not getting the ball out on time
    b) Eating a blitz because they missed their hot read
    c) Scrambling out of the pocket yet still taking a sack instead of throwing it away (it's not grounding outside the tackle box, throw the damn ball away)

    QB Sacks Accounted For
    Hoyer - 7
    Yates - 4
    Mallett - 3
    Weeden - 1

    Total Times Sacked
    Hoyer - 25
    Yates - 5
    Mallett - 4
    Weeden - 2

    *Hoyer fumbled on roughly 25% of his sacks. His ball security is awful.

    **It's hard to blame Yates for being the culprit on most of his own sacks seeing as he was signed right off the damn street.

    ***I think it's pretty clear that we still need an upgrade at RT. Giving Newton that extension last year was vintage Rick Smith (i.e. idiotic).
     
  2. dream_team

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    Newton is inconsistent. In 2014, he played really well, and he deserved being extended. He did regress this past season. I wonder if it had anything with him being moved around the line so much to cover for injuries? In either case, his contract isn't too bad, and he's cut-able after next season.
     
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    Never cut a player unless you have a better one in the house.
     
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    I agree. That goes without saying.
     
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    I used to agree, but sometimes those with less experience have a tendency to over react if you don't educate them.

    Common sense isn't so common any more.
     
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    He was bad his first 3 years and then good in his contract year. Then he reverted back to bad. This is why you don't give multi-year extensions to guys who have only performed in contract years.
     
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    Which is the problem. He was bad for 3 years and the Texans still failed to upgrade him. That's a failure by the GM. That position has been an issue for years.
     
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    We did try to upgrade him. But Brennan Williams suffered a career ending injury in OTAs, and Quesenberry got cancer.
     
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    Williams was already injured when we drafted him. That was a complete failure by the GM. Quessenberry was a 6th rounder. Never once brought in a veteran to compete with him.

    He was handed the starting job as a second year player and was an absolute turnstile over the next 2 years. Never once brought in competition for his job. Had a solid year his contract year and got a 4-year extension. Then proceeded to be a turnstile again the next year.

    The guy has never been in a legitimate position battle despite being a below average starter 3 out of 4 years. That's a GM failure.
     
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    1st, I appreciate your work but will point out your comment about Williams being hurt when drafted is not correct and I and others have historically provided info to correct that view. He was healed from college injury and had another injury in off season after being signed. Also to be fair, Newton played most of his first contract injured. He played often when he probably should have been on bench. 2014 was his most healthy season and he played 2015 with an injured elbow; I am not saying that impacted his giving up sacks. I think the contract was a good one.
     
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    Like what badboy already said, Williams was not already injured when drafted.

    In 2011, he was a 7th round rookie that didn't start. Winston was still around, so not sure why you're counting this year?

    In 2012, the guy that was actually supposed to start at RT was Rashad Butler. He was our swing tackle for 4 seasons, and even started 4 games the previous season for Duane. He played well as the swing and I honestly thought Butler was going to be a fine RT. I admit, I was wrong. I think he got hurt and that's when Newton took over at RT. They also brought in veteran Ryan Harris. Newton wasn't supposed to start in 2012, so he was sort of thrown into the fire.

    The next season, they drafted Quessenberry & Williams. They also still had Ryan Harris as that veteran to play RT if needed.
     
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    Newt might be better suited to play inside at Guard, and since he's under contract perhaps he should be moved to RG, and then we'd release Brandon Brooks who is now a FA
    and then we look to the Draft or FA for our new RT.
     
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    no way no how do we let Brooks go unless he is offered a ridiculous offer to go elsewhere
     
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    Wasn't q drafted to be a center guard? Hadn't we all talked him up to be Myers replacement?
     
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    IIRC it was never stated by team what position he would play. Most said he would be a good OG but I and others thought he could play OT.
     
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    If he's a FA, I don't think it's necessary to release him. Just don't re-sign him. Now whether that is a good idea or not is a different matter.
     
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    If we draft a QB in the first round, will it be OB's decision or management forcing the issue. But regardless, there will be pressure to start any first round QB his rookie season.

    It is questionable whether D Brown will be ready to go opening day. If we don't resign Brooks, that will be another question mark on the Oline. RT has been shown to be the weakest position on the Oline as regards giving up sacks.

    Another David Carr rookie season for our new QB?

    I've mentioned previously that I'd draft Oline in rounds one and two before possibly drafting QB in the third.
     
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    So you'd throw a lesser QB in the fire with a rookie OT protecting him and expect better results? Unless you acquire another retread QB and hope he can handle it better. My choice would be to get a vet QB (Glennon), a stud RB (Ellliott), and then a young QB in the second (Coker?) in the second and a good OT (Haeg/Murphy) in the third.
     
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    Yes correct, thanks, that's what I really meant. There is a concern by some that he will be offered big bucks in FA by a team with ample cap and most folks seem to lean towards keeping Jones over Brooks if it comes down to a decision to choose between the two of them.
     
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    I am expecting the latter to happen.
     

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