NFL NETWORK on Capers

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  1. Paragon Blue

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    Did anyone here what they said about Capers? I caught the end of the conversation. They said someone would be enticing for the Texans.
     
  2. HoustonFan

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    I don't have NFL Network :(
     
  3. MojoX

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    They said that while many QBs can't survive a 108 sack season, not many coaches can either. They suggested that Gary Kubiak would make an good successor due to his ability to work with quarterbacks and since he interviewed for the Texans HC position before.
     
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    Thanks for the info. :)
     
  5. texan279

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    I heard that too. Probably one of the best moves we could make, Kubiak is my wife's cousin and is a native Houstonian, I would love to see it happen. Also Bob Allen on ABC 13 was saying in his opinion, he sees Pitts moving to LT, McKinney to LG, and Hodgon to C very soon. Then he says "What could it hurt?"
     
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    I've heard Gary Kubiak's name mentioned several times in the past week by different sources. Interesting :hmmm:
     
  7. Vinny

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    Carr has seen scarier O-lines before. If Hodgon can play we may as well do that. It gets Riley off the edge.
    :challenge
     
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    Whatever will work to improve this team, BRING IT ON. I think the coaching changes on or after 1/1/06 is inevitable.
     
  9. texan279

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    Here are some snippets on Kubiak from his bio at www.denverbroncos.com...

    Kubiak wasted no time making an impact in his first season as offensive coordinator as the 1995 Broncos broke team records for points scored (388), total yards (6,040), passing yards (4,260), first downs passing (205) and highest average gain per play (5.7; tops in the AFC). Individually, wide receiver Anthony Miller topped the 1,000-yard mark (1,079) and set a franchise record for touchdown receptions (14) while Davis topped the 1,000-yard rushing mark (1,117) and finished second in the NFL Rookie of the Year balloting. Overall, three members of the Broncos' offensive unit┬ŚMiller, Sharpe and Zimmerman┬Śwere chosen to play in the Pro Bowl.

    In 2003, Denver featured a rushing attack that ranked second in the NFL and an offense that finished seventh in the league.

    The 2000 season saw a rekindling of the offensive firepower that marked Kubiak's first four seasons, as the club set franchise records in three major offensive categories, bettering marks established earlier in Kubiak's tenure. The Broncos set new standards for total offense (6,554), passing offense (4,243) and first downs (383), and third-year quarterback Brian Griese and Smith earned their first career Pro Bowl invitations while center Tom Nalen earned his fourth consecutive trip to Hawaii.

    During the 1994 season, Kubiak coached the league's most dominant quarterback, Steve Young, in San Francisco as its offensive coordinator. Young not only led the 49ers to a victory in Super Bowl XXIX, but he also earned Super Bowl MVP honors, as well as the NFL's MVP award, besides setting numerous passing records during the campaign. He also became the NFL's all-time passer-rating leader and the first quarterback to lead the league in passing four years in a row.

    As a player at Texas A&M, Kubiak made the Player's All-SWC team in 1982 and earned appearances in the Blue-Gray and Hula Bowl all-star games. In 1982, he led the SWC (Southwest Athletic Conference) in attempts (324), completions (181), percentage (55.9), yardage (1,948), touchdowns (19) and total offense (1,885). As a junior, he set conference records for touchdown passes in a game (6 against Rice) and percentage in a game (19-21 for 90.5% against Arkansas) and ranked second in the SWC in passing (1,908) and total offense (1,986). He has a degree from Texas A&M in physical education.

    At St. Pius High School in his native Houston, Kubiak made all-state, all-district, and All-America and set the state passing record with 6,190 yards. He lettered four years in football, basketball and baseball and was all-state in all three sports as a junior and senior. He was also all-state twice in track.

    Kubiak, 44, was recognized for his outstanding accomplishments with induction into the prestigious Texas High School Sports Hall of Fame in March 1999.
     
  10. Bassinguy

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    I originally stated that Kubiak would have been a good choice to begin with. I believe Capers is a good coach, and a pretty good person as well, however I don't believe he can build a fire under this group of players. I think Kubiak could. And he knows the game from the offensive side of the line and what it takes to put points on the board.
    I do not believe that J P Losman is now or will ever be on the same level as The Snake. That's the QB who, at his peak would have been the guy I would want calling plays for my team if we were down 6 points and there were only 2 minutes left in the game. The same was said about Elway later on, but Madden coined that phrase for Stabler, originally.
     
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    Take this to the bank and deposit it into your savings account . . .

    You will see "Fire Kubiak Now" threads created on this MB by the 3rd week of the 2006 season.
     
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    I missed the earlier comments about Kubiak, but I did hear Bob Allen's comments this evening. It couldn't hurt to give it a try. After all, the worst that could happen is for them to lose.
     
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    Capers has had 4 years and done squat. IMO most of us have been patient, but we are approaching 5 years here. Most of us understand it takes time. No matter who they bring in, do you honestly think it could get worse? Draft Ferguson and maybe another lineman and a good TE another WR bring in Kubiak and see what happens.
     
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    It will take time. I like this guy's track record. Now if he's able to get it going like Saban is w/ the Dolphins, then great. But hopefully we'll see big improvement and more positives to build on.
     
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    Sometimes I would like the players to be accountable too, they're getting paid alot of money, they should be able to build that fire themselves :)
     
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    It takes more than 5 years to build a team from scratch into a contender that stays around for more than 1 year. Especially if you are building this through the draft. Every team goes thru improvements then set backs. The Cowboys went to the playoffs the 1st year under Parcells, then the next year had a pretty dismal year... Carolina & Jacksonville built their team via aging free agents more than they did the draft to satisfy those areas that never had an NFL team that could win and make an immediate impact but had no long-term success. Look How long it took them to get back after 1996/97? it took the panthers until 03 with Their first franchise QB basically saying hed rather not p[lay football than play for the Panthers. Jacksonville is looking to crack the playoffs in 05. Maybe had they given the head coaches more time, they could have been back by 01 or 02....

    Now if they bring in Kubiak, that would be great offensively speaking. The offensive plays we have are not meant for a denver blocking scheme. Hence the Sacks. Its a west coast style passing attack that has lots of short routes and very few developing routes. However that now puts us with another year or 2 while Carr & everyone else learns the West Coast Offense playbook.

    What about the Defense? Will he bring a 4-3 defense with him? and how do we go about collecting personnel for that? thats also takes a year or 2.

    Maybe we need change or maybe we dont but look at the other startup franchises before us and look how long it took each of them to get where they are now? We just havent gotten enough playmakers, or players that we can trade for value. No real O line players have been available with the exception of Pace.

    I don't blame the organization for any of this. We have to look at this realistically... There are only 8 teams out of 32 that are going to be good enough to get to the playoffs. You cant expect in 5 years to get there when you are starting with nothing but spare parts from other teams... we have only brought in a max of 30 new rookies over our history and maybe 15 FA well say out of the 30 picks, only 10 were slated as starters this year. Now we are starting 12 7 FA were slated. 6 are starters. now only 6 players starting were people picked from the expansion draft.

    You can only work with what you have to work with. If there is a coaching change, Ill be disappointed. because will this coach take this and dismantle it or will he build on the foundation laid forth? I know with the record it says now is as good a time as any to do this, but is it really? I think we should give them 1 more year. just to see if there is really any improvement I think Wand was put in prematurely and we have suffered. But who knows..
     
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    We can't even get to .500 much less be a contender, approaching 4 1/2 years...
     
  19. U4ikrob

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    IMO the problem OutofHnd is not that we cant compete with other teams great players and it taking time to get those impact players on our squad - Thats an understood part in my book - The problem is the more questionable personel decisions this staff has made consistently for 5 years now and what they have done with the talent they wanted to get.

    IMO - That's not just players playing up to potential - thats coaches overvaluing talent and not coaching what talent they do have to be better.

    There were players at every position available of need over the last 4 years in the off-season - yet this staff choose time and again not to cull more depth and get the impact players at the lines where the game is played. They choose to trade away pro-bowl players and starters/veterans regularly to go with youth movements and unproven project players - yet -expected better results and when called on the carpet for the decisions they have come up with a "I dunno" and more questions than answers?? For a coaching staff thats inexcuseable - your the managers of the team - it's long past time for them to act like it and take responsabilty for their choices - that goes from Top to bottom. :bomb:

    Posey, Foley, Mcree, Wright, Glenn, Foreman, Sharper - etc.... All these guys are starters or quality depth on other teams - yet were not good enough here somehow? :ok: Boggle?? :confused:

    A defense thats consistently underproduced and has created the lowest sack totals in the NFL going on 2 years in a row now and has never produced much pressure on other teams? This coming from a supposed "Defensive" coach with his hand picked coordinator? IMO Thats much more on coaching and schemes than the players as they picked there starters and got rid of the players they thought were not the quality they needed - IT certainly wasnt about the money as most of these players listed above are playing for not much more than Veteran min's on other teams. It's great that were not over our Cap - thanks Charlie - but then again we dont have many playmakers on the team either - Thanks again Charlie.

    Veteran players and Pro-bowl players usually produce pretty consistently - Theres a reason they are veterans or Pro-bowl players most of the time - IT's called results. IMO we could have kept any of those guys on the team above if we wanted too yet choose not to. If nothing else they coud have served as the role models and veteran players with the experience to lead the way the young players on this team need to see so -when things get bad - the veterans can help show the way back to victory. Without anyone on the team to turn to and lead them asa veteran player in most of the positions on the team - this team is lost without an identity and they play just like it.

    If I have one word for this staff its 'Inconsistent' - From coaching to personel moves to performance on the field.

    Honestly IMO it doesnt take a rocket scientist or NFL guru to figure out the players arent producing at pro-bowl levels - but that starts with the coaches and staff and the scheme they are running. This staff and FO have consistently 'under-produced' and have mismanaged things in the draft and free-agency enough it's little wonder to me it's translated itself on the field in the same way - as a "severely disfunctional team" IMO changes are necessary and will be forthcoming to correct things and create an atmosphere of success and winning attitude again in our players and team. Mark my words - with each loss -those changes are coming sooner rather than later.
     
  20. Bobo

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    >I believe Capers is a good coach, and a pretty good person as well, >however I don't believe he can build a fire under this group of players.

    Where have you been for the first three seasons?
     

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