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After Kubiak keeps Carr gets rid of him in 3 years like Brian Griese Texans best year will be 7-9 and Kubiak will be firedTexas_Thrill said:So if we had any doubts of keeping carr i think that pretty much sealed them up right there.
It really doesn't matter what is said during the interview because your a fan no matter how they screw up the team:brickwallTexanAddict said:A synopsis of what is said would be greatly appreciated whenever the interview is over. Thanks!
eclem5 said:It really doesn't matter what is said during the interview because your a fan no matter how they screw up the team:brickwall
Grid said:eclem.. there is the door. goodbye.
Honestly.. do we have to go through this? If Kubiak wants Carr.. that should be enough to show you that a GREAT QB coach thinks Carr can be turned into a quality NFL starter.
Why isnt that enough for you?
Grid, the Good Lord Himself could tell 'em, and they wouldn't listen. Not saying they're wrong or right just stating a fact. When someone is dug in like a tick on a dog, you just don't change their mind. Nothing will. It's against most Humans capacity to admit to perhaps being mistaken.Grid said:eclem.. there is the door. goodbye.
Honestly.. do we have to go through this? If Kubiak wants Carr.. that should be enough to show you that a GREAT QB coach thinks Carr can be turned into a quality NFL starter.
Why isnt that enough for you?
So I guess in the middle of a super bowl run, Kubiak sat down every night and watched game film of Carr...Paragon Blue said:He said that he thought the world of David Carr and said he had all the tools to taking the next step!!
Honestly.. do we have to go through this? If Kubiak wants Carr.. that should be enough to show you that a GREAT QB coach thinks Carr can be turned into a quality NFL starter.
So a coach that is on the offensive side of the ball is not analyzing the defense he is going against, but grading the QB on the other team??? Makes sense...Hulk75 said:Seeing that they have played them a couple times I am sure he has seen enough right now to say what he has said.
Fiddy said:So I guess in the middle of a super bowl run, Kubiak sat down every night and watched game film of Carr...
eclem5 said:After Kubiak keeps Carr gets rid of him in 3 years like Brian Griese Texans best year will be 7-9 and Kubiak will be fired
Texan will be 12-4 with Carr the QB when
Fiddy said:So a coach that is on the offensive side of the ball is not analyzing the defense he is going against, but grading the QB on the other team??? Makes sense...
Porky said:What makes any of us think one guy with a reputation for making a QB the best he can be is any better than the last guy with the same reputation?
Honoring Earl 34 said:The thing that might keep Carr from prospering is not physical . Its a lot of things that have nothing to do with arm strength or running .
You get the idea Kubiak expexts Carr to work his butt off on the mental part of the game and becoming a team leader . He stated the QB has got to be the leader . I think Carr should show a marked improvement next year leaving fans giddy for 2007 . Remember the word SHOULD .
The big question to me is how much time can they can spend together in the offseason .
Grid said:eclem.. there is the door. goodbye.
Honestly.. do we have to go through this? If Kubiak wants Carr.. that should be enough to show you that a GREAT QB coach thinks Carr can be turned into a quality NFL starter.
Why isnt that enough for you?
Jake Plummer is going to the Pro Bowl this year...chall8 said:I guess that depends on what your definition is of a "quality NFL starter".
Is Jake Plummer a quality NFL starter, or a serviceable NFL starter? Indeed he has improved as a QB over the last 3 years, but how much of that is directly attributed to Kubiak and how much can be attributed to maturity in general.
If you think Kubiak is going to convert Carr into the next John Elway then I think you're delusional (sp?). If you think he will make him into a Jake Plummer-type, serviceable QB then I agree with you.
Whether a "serviceable" QB will be enough to take us to a title is very debatable.
That being said, maybe we go with Carr for now and address the plethora of other issues we have (the #32 ranked defense, the OL, the TE spot, etc.). Then if DC is holding us back we draft a Brady Quinn or the next USC stud.
It is no secret McNair is in love with Carr so a requirement for the job was that you had to believe Carr could become a great QB. If Kubiak goes in there and says Carr is terrible, he is shown the door. Now, I think coaching for his hometown was something that he didnt want to pass up because he could have gotten a job almost anywhere else but pursued this one so he either had to not coach the Texans or say that he believes in Carr.infantrycak said:C'mon. It may fly for Kubiack or someone to say he hasn't watched Young or Bush more than casually, but the Texans have practiced the last two years with the Broncos and have played them. There are over a hundred college teams vs. 32 (you and other fans around here manage to have opinions on all 32 NFL QB starters--hard to think a QB oriented coach doesn't as well) in the NFL. Plus, Kubiack prepared exhaustively for a 7.5 hr interview with McNair where he obviously (as Lucky predicted) convinced McNair he was confident he could make the Texans successful with Carr. You really think he took a flyer on that and hitched his wagon to Carr without looking at him pretty extensively? I'm not buying that one at all.
What is this "Kubiak is a QB coach" stuff??? He won his championships with Elway who didnt need a QB coach, failed with Gresie and the jury is still out with Jake with most people. I for one think he just tries to hard, others think he is just bad. So how is he a "QB coach"???You don't think a QB coach instinctly notices who another team's QB does? It is like a pitching coach not noticing the other team's pitchers. I'm sure Coach K already had an impression of Carr prior to looking at extensive film.
Fiddy said:It is no secret McNair is in love with Carr so a requirement for the job was that you had to believe Carr could become a great QB. If Kubiak goes in there and says Carr is terrible, he is shown the door.
Fiddy said:What is this "Kubiak is a QB coach" stuff??? He won his championships with Elway who didnt need a QB coach, failed with Gresie and the jury is still out with Jake with most people. I for one think he just tries to hard, others think he is just bad. So how is he a "QB coach"???
Fiddy said:It is no secret McNair is in love with Carr so a requirement for the job was that you had to believe Carr could become a great QB. If Kubiak goes in there and says Carr is terrible, he is shown the door. Now, I think coaching for his hometown was something that he didnt want to pass up because he could have gotten a job almost anywhere else but pursued this one so he either had to not coach the Texans or say that he believes in Carr.
What is this "Kubiak is a QB coach" stuff??? He won his championships with Elway who didnt need a QB coach, failed with Gresie and the jury is still out with Jake with most people. I for one think he just tries to hard, others think he is just bad. So how is he a "QB coach"???
First of all, Manning doesnt sack himself which Carr is the king of. When there is pressure on Manning he struggles like every QB, but he doesnt make the O-line look bad because of poor pocket presence. Having pressure because of the defense and having pressure because the QB has 0 pocket presence is completely different. Secondly, Manning still had 290 yards and a TD. And Brady did struggle, but if you dont count that INT that he just threw up there trying to get lucky, Brady had 341 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. Horrible numbers. Another thing is the fact that Brady had pressure all year long, the only difference was he stayed in the pocket that extra .5 second which allowed him to lead the league in passing yardage.infantrycak said:There is virtually no way he is turning around 5 minutes (or 3 months--same thing here) and saying he changed his mind. You said it--McNair likes Carr. It was clear in his 610 am interview. It was almost funny how he used some of the arguments described around here as Carr lover, Carr kool-aid, etc. such as Brady and Manning under pressure not looking good.
He has developed one QB!!! One!!! Uno!!! He was given argubly the best QB in NFL history. He developed one, failed with one. That's a 50% success rate. And I think he had Tommy Maddox, too, and that didnt work out too well. Before he is annoited a coach that can develop QBs, I would like to see him develop more than one...infantrycak said:Pretty easy, let's see--he was a QB, then he was a QB coach, then he became a very hands with the QB's OC who is credited with developing Plummer and now he has been hired as stated by McNair because of his experience with developing QB's. Naaah--he has nothing to do with QB's.
Fiddy said:First of all, Manning doesnt sack himself which Carr is the king of. When there is pressure on Manning he struggles like every QB, but he doesnt make the O-line look bad because of poor pocket presence. Having pressure because of the defense and having pressure because the QB has 0 pocket presence is completely different. Secondly, Manning still had 290 yards and a TD. And Brady did struggle, but if you dont count that INT that he just threw up there trying to get lucky, Brady had 341 yards, 1 TD and 1 INT. Horrible numbers. Another thing is the fact that Brady had pressure all year long, the only difference was he stayed in the pocket that extra .5 second which allowed him to lead the league in passing yardage.
He has developed one QB!!! One!!! Uno!!! He was given argubly the best QB in NFL history. He developed one, failed with one. That's a 50% success rate. And I think he had Tommy Maddox, too, and that didnt work out too well. Before he is annoited a coach that can develop QBs, I would like to see him develop more than one...
BREAZE said:Mark Schlerth - "The Green Lantern would not perform with this O-line"...that was pretty funny. He (Mark) thinks we should trade down...says he's talked to some within the organization and they understand/Kubiak understands that at its core the football team is flawed...front 7 on defense and the O-line...amen brotha!