Mistril48
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Old Posting (new posting below)
In a salary cap regime like the NFL, the value of a player is a function of his performance measured against his cap value. A non-expansion NFL team typically drafts 12 players (the T12 if you will) in the first 3 rounds over a 4 year period. These 12 players are particularly valuable to a franchise in a salary cap regime, because they typically have much lower cap values than players signed through free agency. For example, Chester Pitts has a 2004 cap value of $705,000, but Steve McKinney has a 2004 cap value of $3,050,000.
Typically, an impact player becomes a free agent after four accrued years and either leaves, or receives his first big free agency contract. Each year, a franchise typically loses 3 first day drafted players to free agency (unless they re-sign the players) and get three replacements through the draft, thereby maintaining their T12 (in some cases, of course, a player drafted to be a T12 player wont work out and a team may end up with less than 12, or a second day drafted player may excel, like Domanick Davis, thereby creating more than 12). McKinney, Bradford, Wong, Smith and Wade are all examples of four year players who got big raises to come to the Texans for their 5th year.
In the 2002 season, the Texans first year, they only had 5 T12 (1 first, 2 second and 2 third), while all the other teams had 12. Bummer. Unlike the Panthers and the Jaguars, the Texans werent given any extra first round picks. Hard to compete.
The good news is the Texans have now caught up, thanks to expansion picks and Charlie Casserlys astute trades. They now have 12 players who they drafted on the first day. The Texans now have a T12 like other NFL teams. Good.
New Posting
How about the Texans next opponent (players drafted by Coughlin in Blue), the Jags. How does their T12 compare with the Texans?
. . YR . . Texans (only 3 yrs) . . . . . . YR . . . Jags (4 yrs)
F . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01 DT Marcus Stroud
I. . 02 . QB David Carr . . . . . . . . . . .02 DT John Henderson
R . 03 . WR Andre Johnson . . . . . . . .03 QB Byron Leftwich
S . 04 . CB Dunta Robinson . . . . . . . 04 WR Reggie Williams
T . 04 . LB Jason Babin
S . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01 OT Maurice Williams
E . 02 . WR Jabar Gaffney
C . 02 . OL Chester Pitts . . . . . . . . . .02 OT Mike Pearson
O . 03 . TE Benny Joppru . . . . . . . . . 03 CB Rashean Mathis
N . 04 . RB Tony Hollings. . . . . . . . . . 04 LB Daryl Smith
D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 04 RB Greg Jones
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01 LB Eric Westmoreland
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01 DB James Boyd
T . 02 . OL Fred Weary . . . . . . . . . . '02 LB Akin Ayodele
H . 02 . OL Charles Hill (released)
I . 03. . LB Antwan Peek. . . . . . . . . . 03 OG Vince Manuwai
R . 03 . OL Seth Wand
D . 03 .QB Dave Ragone
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 04 LB Jorge Cordova
I would argue that the Jags, like the Vikings & Tacks, illustrate how we have arrived after just three years of drafts. We drafted 13 first day players and the Jags have drafted 14. The Texans have generated 7 starters (Carr, Johnson, Gaffney, Pitts, Wand, Babin, Robinson) from our T12. The Jags have generated 9 starters, 4 under Coughlin (I think Stroud, Henderson, Williams, Ayodele) and 5 under Harris (I think Leftwich, Manuai, Smith, Mathis, Williams) from their T12.
. . . . . . Texans (only 3 yrs) . . . . . . . . . . Jags (4 yrs)
. . . . . . QB David Carr . . . . . . . . . . . . .QB Byron Leftwich
. . . . . . QB Dave Ragone
. . . . . . RB Tony Hollings . . . . . . . . . . . RB Greg Jones
. . . . . .WR Andre Johnson . . . . . . . . . . WR Reggie Williams
. . . . . .WR Jabar Gaffney
. . . . . . TE Benny Joppru
. . . . . .OG Chester Pitts . . . . . . . . . . . .OT Maurice Williams
. . . . . .OT Seth Wand. . . . . . . . . . . . . .OT Mike Pearson
. . . . . .OG Fred Weary . . . . . . . . . . . . .OG Vince Manuwai
. . . . . .DL Charles Hill (released) . . . . . . DT Marcus Stroud
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .DT John Henderson
. . . . . .LB Jason Babin. . . . . . . . . . . . . .LB Daryl Smith
. . . . . .LB Antwan Peek . . . . . . . . . . . . LB Eric Westmoreland
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .LB Akin Ayodele
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .LB Jorge Cordova
. . . . . .CB Dunta Robinson . . . . . . . . . . .CB Rashean Mathis
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DB James Boyd
Would you trade our players, above, for their players, above?
Old Posting
And the news gets better for the Texans. In 2005, the Texans should keep all of their T12 (none will have four accrued years) and add 4 new members through the 2005 draft (1 first, 1 second and 2 thirds), giving them a total of 16 T12. Great news!
. . YR . . Texans (4 yrs)
F. .02 . QB David Carr
I . 03 . WR Andre Johnson
R . 04 . CB Dunta Robinson
S . 04 . LB Jason Babin
T . 05 . . . . P I C K
S . 02 . WR Jabar Gaffney
E . 02 . OL Chester Pitts
C . 03 . TE Benny Joppru
O . 04 . RB Tony Hollings
N . 05 . . . . P I C K
. . 02 . OL Fred Weary
T . 02 . OL Charles Hill (released)
H . 03 . LB Antwan Peek
I . .03 . OL Seth Wand
R . 03 . QB Dave Ragone
D . 05 . . . . P I C K
. .. 05 . . . . P I C K
In a salary cap regime like the NFL, the value of a player is a function of his performance measured against his cap value. A non-expansion NFL team typically drafts 12 players (the T12 if you will) in the first 3 rounds over a 4 year period. These 12 players are particularly valuable to a franchise in a salary cap regime, because they typically have much lower cap values than players signed through free agency. For example, Chester Pitts has a 2004 cap value of $705,000, but Steve McKinney has a 2004 cap value of $3,050,000.
Typically, an impact player becomes a free agent after four accrued years and either leaves, or receives his first big free agency contract. Each year, a franchise typically loses 3 first day drafted players to free agency (unless they re-sign the players) and get three replacements through the draft, thereby maintaining their T12 (in some cases, of course, a player drafted to be a T12 player wont work out and a team may end up with less than 12, or a second day drafted player may excel, like Domanick Davis, thereby creating more than 12). McKinney, Bradford, Wong, Smith and Wade are all examples of four year players who got big raises to come to the Texans for their 5th year.
In the 2002 season, the Texans first year, they only had 5 T12 (1 first, 2 second and 2 third), while all the other teams had 12. Bummer. Unlike the Panthers and the Jaguars, the Texans werent given any extra first round picks. Hard to compete.
The good news is the Texans have now caught up, thanks to expansion picks and Charlie Casserlys astute trades. They now have 12 players who they drafted on the first day. The Texans now have a T12 like other NFL teams. Good.
New Posting
How about the Texans next opponent (players drafted by Coughlin in Blue), the Jags. How does their T12 compare with the Texans?
. . YR . . Texans (only 3 yrs) . . . . . . YR . . . Jags (4 yrs)
F . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .01 DT Marcus Stroud
I. . 02 . QB David Carr . . . . . . . . . . .02 DT John Henderson
R . 03 . WR Andre Johnson . . . . . . . .03 QB Byron Leftwich
S . 04 . CB Dunta Robinson . . . . . . . 04 WR Reggie Williams
T . 04 . LB Jason Babin
S . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01 OT Maurice Williams
E . 02 . WR Jabar Gaffney
C . 02 . OL Chester Pitts . . . . . . . . . .02 OT Mike Pearson
O . 03 . TE Benny Joppru . . . . . . . . . 03 CB Rashean Mathis
N . 04 . RB Tony Hollings. . . . . . . . . . 04 LB Daryl Smith
D . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 04 RB Greg Jones
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01 LB Eric Westmoreland
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 01 DB James Boyd
T . 02 . OL Fred Weary . . . . . . . . . . '02 LB Akin Ayodele
H . 02 . OL Charles Hill (released)
I . 03. . LB Antwan Peek. . . . . . . . . . 03 OG Vince Manuwai
R . 03 . OL Seth Wand
D . 03 .QB Dave Ragone
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 04 LB Jorge Cordova
I would argue that the Jags, like the Vikings & Tacks, illustrate how we have arrived after just three years of drafts. We drafted 13 first day players and the Jags have drafted 14. The Texans have generated 7 starters (Carr, Johnson, Gaffney, Pitts, Wand, Babin, Robinson) from our T12. The Jags have generated 9 starters, 4 under Coughlin (I think Stroud, Henderson, Williams, Ayodele) and 5 under Harris (I think Leftwich, Manuai, Smith, Mathis, Williams) from their T12.
. . . . . . Texans (only 3 yrs) . . . . . . . . . . Jags (4 yrs)
. . . . . . QB David Carr . . . . . . . . . . . . .QB Byron Leftwich
. . . . . . QB Dave Ragone
. . . . . . RB Tony Hollings . . . . . . . . . . . RB Greg Jones
. . . . . .WR Andre Johnson . . . . . . . . . . WR Reggie Williams
. . . . . .WR Jabar Gaffney
. . . . . . TE Benny Joppru
. . . . . .OG Chester Pitts . . . . . . . . . . . .OT Maurice Williams
. . . . . .OT Seth Wand. . . . . . . . . . . . . .OT Mike Pearson
. . . . . .OG Fred Weary . . . . . . . . . . . . .OG Vince Manuwai
. . . . . .DL Charles Hill (released) . . . . . . DT Marcus Stroud
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .DT John Henderson
. . . . . .LB Jason Babin. . . . . . . . . . . . . .LB Daryl Smith
. . . . . .LB Antwan Peek . . . . . . . . . . . . LB Eric Westmoreland
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .LB Akin Ayodele
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . .LB Jorge Cordova
. . . . . .CB Dunta Robinson . . . . . . . . . . .CB Rashean Mathis
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . DB James Boyd
Would you trade our players, above, for their players, above?
Old Posting
And the news gets better for the Texans. In 2005, the Texans should keep all of their T12 (none will have four accrued years) and add 4 new members through the 2005 draft (1 first, 1 second and 2 thirds), giving them a total of 16 T12. Great news!
. . YR . . Texans (4 yrs)
F. .02 . QB David Carr
I . 03 . WR Andre Johnson
R . 04 . CB Dunta Robinson
S . 04 . LB Jason Babin
T . 05 . . . . P I C K
S . 02 . WR Jabar Gaffney
E . 02 . OL Chester Pitts
C . 03 . TE Benny Joppru
O . 04 . RB Tony Hollings
N . 05 . . . . P I C K
. . 02 . OL Fred Weary
T . 02 . OL Charles Hill (released)
H . 03 . LB Antwan Peek
I . .03 . OL Seth Wand
R . 03 . QB Dave Ragone
D . 05 . . . . P I C K
. .. 05 . . . . P I C K