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ccdude730 said:except a team that doesnt need him like houston
YodAa said:I hope your right, but still if we get Kubiak won't he have a similar system to Shanahan since he was his HC?
noxiousdog said:Getting compensated for him and passing on him are not the same things.
run-david-run said:if kubiak wants a system simillar to denver's, we will ever see Bush and DD or DD and Wells getting alot of carries. WE might see Bush get a role simmillar to Tatum Bell in the running game, plus Punt return and action as a wide receiver. If we dont go with Bush, then DD will be the primary back and wells will get a lot more carries then he gets as a #2 back this season, not a bad thing...
YodAa said:I hope your right, but still if we get Kubiak won't he have a similar system to Shanahan since he was his HC?
If he had the opportunity to play he would be a good back is all i'm saying.Texas_Thrill said:if my mama was in denver she'd be a pro bowl back. You're going to make VM a pro bowler based off of what?
gpshafer_1976 said:If you were Kubiak, and McNair offers you the job with the idea of having DD, Bush, Wells, and Morency in the backfield....how do you turn down the job? No other team with HC vacancies has the kind of backfield we have.
Minnesota? No backfield to speak of. Just a bunch of No. 2's pretending to be No. 1.
Same in Green Bay.
Same in N.O., and I don't care what you say about McCallister. Who is it after that? Antowaine Smith? Pffttt...
K.C. is the MOST attractive HC locale outside of Reliant Stadium. They have a pretty good football team, IMO.
I like our chances of getting Kubiak. And I don't necessarily think that Kubiak would want more than DD, Wells, and Morency. I think Kubiak might surprise us all and go conventional wisdom with a stud OL.
I think this will go down as one of the most intriguing offseasons in NFL history. There's going to be a LOT of player movement even before the draft, IMO.
trutexan67 said:I think Vernand M, is a real good back, if he was in a denver offense he would be a pro bowl back....
HOOK'EM said:Iam ready to order my authentic #25 Reggie Bush jersey right now!.............................I can hear it now..............Reggie, Reggie, Reggie!
YodAa said:then does that mean no Bush? Cause I don't recall him using a 1st round RB for any of those 1000 yard seasons.
Imagine that both Davis and Bush in the backfield and Morency and Wells as backups. I guess we'd be running the ball a fair bit .....or maybe Davis gets used like Westbrook at the Eagles.tulexan said:He may have a similar system, but does not mean they are the same. Kubiak may believe that having both Davis and Bush in his system will give them the best running attack in the league. He also might not have a say in it. I really have a hard time believing that McNair will let someone else take Bush when he has him right now.
ccdude730 said:well i agree with that, playing hardball with a few teams to get a better deal done.
im just against keeping him to play for us and replace our own back who just got a new deal
atxcoolguy said:Houston had the 15th ranked run offense in the league this year. That was better than Indy and New England. Add Bush and a good Coordinator and we're top 10 maybe top 5. Our problem lies with with the pass blocking, which can be corrected with 1.) a new Coach, 2.) Reggie Bush, 3.) 1 or 2 new Olinemen.
rittenhouserobz said:Please explain how Reggie Bush is going to stop a blitz when we are 3 and 8-15 yrds to go. These are the situations where we need help.
SESupergenius said:My hope is to trade down a couple of spots and use extra picks to fix our oline. I figure if we trade down and get a good RB in DeAngelo Williams or Dbrick and then get someone like Scott later we'd be sitting pretty.
SESupergenius said:My hope is to trade down a couple of spots and use extra picks to fix our oline. I figure if we trade down and get a good RB in DeAngelo Williams or Dbrick and then get someone like Scott later we'd be sitting pretty.
A Texan said:My question is if Kubiak becomes the head coach, would he consider his old boss R.C. Slocum for DC? Even as a Longhorn fan, I have to admire the job, Slocum did with defenses. Kubiak worked for him for a couple of years before becoming a pro coach. I'll bet he would shape up the linebackers. It would be the 2nd time Slocum was offered an NFL job as he was invited to join Robinson with the LA Rams but chose to return to A & M as head coach instead.
For the additional picks that we've lost in the Buchanon and Babin trades. I am from the school of thought around here that our talent level is not all that great and that we should address quite a few spots on the roster without breaking the bank in Free Agency. If we trade down we should be able to get extra picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds in this draft or the next. I am not a Bush hater, I will evaluate him more .vs Texas, particularly in his pass blocking capabilities, but there are always group of qualified RB's in every draft that can be servicable. Behind our current line I just don't see Bush doing great things. If KC can turn Larry Johnson into a running machine, then we should be able to do the same, we absolutely have to make our offensive line better and we've never draft a quality lineman in the 1st 3 rounds since our expansion year, which is unheard of.tulexan said:Why would we trade down to get DeAngelo Williams and then take Jonathan Scott in the second round when we could pick up Reggie Bush and then take Jonathan Scott in the second round?
I agree that Bush is a talent, but we have a great chance to trade down a little to teams like the Raiders and Jets who need a QB and might be willing to give us a fantastic deal so they can draft Leinart ahead of the Saints. If so we would be able to add depth to this team and not break the bank on another top 10 pick like we've done with Carr AJ and Drob. If New England can produce after having less than stellar draft positiioning, then so can we.michaelm said:.
You should agree, however, that if we choose him we should be able to improve our line while he is still capable of taking advantage of it...
SESupergenius said:For the additional picks that we've lost in the Buchanon and Babin trades. I am from the school of thought around here that our talent level is not all that great and that we should address quite a few spots on the roster without breaking the bank in Free Agency. If we trade down we should be able to get extra picks in the 2nd or 3rd rounds in this draft or the next. I am not a Bush hater, I will evaluate him more .vs Texas, particularly in his pass blocking capabilities, but there are always group of qualified RB's in every draft that can be servicable. Behind our current line I just don't see Bush doing great things. If KC can turn Larry Johnson into a running machine, then we should be able to do the same, we absolutely have to make our offensive line better and we've never draft a quality lineman in the 1st 3 rounds since our expansion year, which is unheard of.
I've seen D'Angelo play and I think he is the best all around running back in this draft, if we could take him and get extra picks, or even trade down further and get the best Guard available then that would shore up some of the miscues that Casserly has done over the last 2 drafts.
michaelm said:Everybody is clamoring for a franchise LT, but few teams actually have one. We can put together a better than average line with Pitts at LT IMO.
Plus D'Brick may end up being a bust...
Can anybody say Mandarich?
He was one of the most hyped players in history coming out of college... considered a sure future hall of famer. Sadly (for him), many of you will need to google him to find out who he was.
I agree with you as well and I guess I wasn't too clear on my position. Depending on where we traded down, I think we should pick best available player. I was looking at D'Angelo because I thought we would trade down in that area. If we traded down into the middle of the 1st round and picked the best avail guard, then that would be fine by me too.Texans86 said:I agree with you. I think we also need more help at OL and I like D'Angelo Williams. However, I don't think we need to draft a RB at all in this draft. We have 3 good backs in our backfield, and I think a pick could be used better than on Williams later in the first or high second.
eriadoc said:18 of the 32 teams currently have a left tackle that was drafted in the first round, and 17 of them were taken in the top 20. Two teams have a second round draft choice playing left tackle. Then you have teams that are playing guards at left tackle and/or grooming their future left tackle on the right side currently. All 6 tackles that made the Pro Bowl this year were drafted in the first round.
For every bust tackle you can name (Mandarich is the biggest one that comes to mind), I can name a successful 1st round tackle and two busts at running back.
Just an alternative viewpoint.
Coach C. said:I mean in the NFL it is understood that the draft is a crapshoot, dont you want more rolls.