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I’m not upset at Arizona fans. I knew y’all were getting a premier player. I’m more upset of our gm that made that trade happen. lolTrust me, I'm fully aware that the Houston fans and players got hosed on that deal.
And I wasn't coming in to be all rub-it-in, I'm just like.......the new boyfriend coming to tell you how happy she is now and she's in a safe place
Thanks,but this was all avoidable.I think you guy will be back on the scene soon. You got the equation solved at the QB position, just have to build back up around him. I know that's frustrating when you were a playoff team not so long ago.
Trust me....being a Cardinals fan, not many know what the basement feels like better than us
Michael Strahan Questions Houston Texans After DeAndre Hopkins Hail Mary Catch: ‘How Do You Trade Him?’
Michael Strahan Questions Houston Texans After DeAndre Hopkins Hail Mary Catch: 'How Do You Trade Him?'
Fox Sports' Michael Strahan had some questions after Arizona Cardinals wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins came down with a miraculous game-winning catch.outsider.com
Most of us here, and everywhere, were asking that same question long before that question yesterday
Speaking of the Baby Momma Brigade. Do we still have any posters on this forum who want to justify this trade by posting that targeting and relying on your HOF, #1 WR is a bad thing? Do you think Cardinals fans care about what percentage of targets their QB is giving Hopkins?I’m just trolling the Baby Momma Brigade
I dunno was D-Hop Rick Smiths best draft pick ever ?
I dunno where Smith is these days but he's probably smiling about D-Hops success and all of the ridicule that's bein heaped on
O'Brien for making one of the most boneheaded NFL trades ever.
This is the Hopkins thread. Not the Ricky thread. Hopkins is on pace to get targeted more than Watson ever targeted him. Tell us again, what is wrong with QBs giving Hopkins so much of the WR targets.Watt was RS best draft pick ever.
Tell me about rds 2-7. That's where a GM builds a successful team.
This is the Hopkins thread. Not the Ricky thread. Hopkins is on pace to get targeted more than Watson ever targeted him. Tell us again, what is wrong with QBs giving Hopkins so much of the WR targets.
Speaking of the Baby Momma Brigade. Do we still have any posters on this forum who want to justify this trade by posting that targeting and relying on your HOF, #1 WR is a bad thing? Do you think Cardinals fans care about what percentage of targets their QB is giving Hopkins?
I'm not the poster that brought up RS.
I've also said many times I would've made Hopkins play out 1 more yr of his contract before I traded him. I dont know what else you want me to say.
You don’t make him play out 1year and then try to trade your best WR while he’s still in his prime years. You bring the man in and tell him we’re guaranteeing the final years of your contract and tossing in a bonus for your work on the field. I think that keeps your best and one of the NFL’s best WR’s in the game in Texans colors.
I'm not giving him anymore guaranteed money but I'm making him play out his contract. If he's unhappy so be it. With the new rules about holding out Hopkins would be between a rock and a hard place.
I already made him the highest paid WR in the NFL when he signed his contract. It's not personal it's business. That money needs to be spent on the defensive side of the ball.
Your proving to be more like OB than a smart businessman. Personal feelings obstructing sound moves. Especially when the eventual but sound business move makes you the laughing stock of the NFL.
There was a time that even I mentioned moving Hopkins. Not b/c of disdain but b/c it would be a solid move to pair with a rebuild. Before his new contract or before OB became the dunce GM....Hopkins would’ve yielded a very nice return but with the dunce GM at the helm, we all saw how that turned out.
For me it's all about business. You signed a contract you play out the contract. With the new CBA Hopkins wouldn't have had much recourse. Or he would've lost alot of $$$$. It would've been his choice.
The Texans didn’t hesitate to reward Watt for being the best on the team and in the NFL before his old contract played out. By the same token, if Watt had maintained his level of injury free play after the new contract....he too would’ve been looking for a bump and the Texans would’ve obliged.
Hopkins was that guy as well and the big difference, he didn’t get injured and his play got better. Texans offered the contract, Hopkins signed the contract....so one more time as to how guaranteeing the contract was going to be detrimental to the team?
Alot of speculation in this post.
Hopkins original contract wasn't detrimental to the team.
Well this thread took a nasty turn. I thought it was about demonizing Nuk to justify the great trade by OB to all of us haters.
Neither was his second contract. Had the team recognized his solid performances and got proactive in bringing him to the table and rewarding him with the guarantee....the raise would’ve never been brought up.
Hopkins didn't have any leverage and didn't even use an agent. If he wanted to renegotiate his contract, the Texans could have simply said, we can't renew at this time, but if you find a team that would give us a #1 draft pick, we will make it happen. There were so many ways to handle this situation and they willingly took the worst option.I'm not giving him anymore guaranteed money but I'm making him play out his contract. If he's unhappy so be it. With the new rules about holding out Hopkins would be between a rock and a hard place.
I already made him the highest paid WR in the NFL when he signed his contract. It's not personal it's business. That money needs to be spent on the defensive side of the ball.
Both Rick Smith & Bill O'Brien are part and parcel of the Deandre Hopkins story of his life and times in Houston, TX.This is the Hopkins thread. Not the Ricky thread. Hopkins is on pace to get targeted more than Watson ever targeted him. Tell us again, what is wrong with QBs giving Hopkins so much of the WR targets.
Yea you got me there Steel.Watt was RS best draft pick ever.
Tell me about rds 2-7. That's where a GM builds a successful team.
Yea you got me there Steel.
I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around this. If they're making a kajillion dollars when they're losing, wouldn't it stand to reason they would take in threekajillion if they would win?especially when success for them is solely defined by revenues.
For the Vikings maybe...for the Texans heck no! For the Bills and Cardinals would again be a no.
I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around this. If they're making a kajillion dollars when they're losing, wouldn't it stand to reason they would take in threekajillion if they would win?
& why is Baker Mayfield doing Progressive commercials & Watson is doing pepper popper spots?
It's simple: It's much easier to market a product - i.e. "Houston Texans" - than it is to win pro football games.
You can create an image to sell something using a variety of methods that have been honed by marketing professionals and psychologists for decades, regardless of it is a food product, clothes, an image, and even a local team. Capitalism is based on selling us crap that we don't really need. We just perceive that we want it, and that perception is manipulated in a variety of ways.
But, putting together a front office of skilled scouts, coaches, GM, HC, etc., and winning consistently enough to be competitive against great teams is much, much more difficult.
So, Bob McNair wanted to ensure that his product was successful regardless of the actual results on the field. The former is controllable, but the latter is not.
If he would have put a glove on it like he does his hands, I wouldn't have to talk to him about his baby mamas.Caught some baby mamas but couldn’t catch feeling for me.
-Bill O’Brien
GM Extraordinaire
AFC South Champion
Yelled at Brady
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Still can't believe they actually complained about thatCan someone please remind me why TT posters were complaining about their WR1 and a potential HoF player getting too many pass targets?
Well, they didn't. Not really. It was something someone said after the fact. That it might be slowing Watson's ability to progress as a pure passer.Still can't believe they actually complained about that
You're being kind. It was more than that. It was used as a criticism that Watson was targeting Hopkins too much. They refused to acknowledge that Watson was targeting Hopkins fewer than other Texans' QBs. They refused to acknowledge that Hopkins' targets were on par with all the great WR1s. They used it as a justification of the trade and to criticize Watson.Well, they didn't. Not really. It was something someone said after the fact. That it might be slowing Watson's ability to progress as a pure passer.
No one (that I know of) mentioned it as a problem before the trade.
True.They used it as a justification of the trade and to criticize Watson.