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No extension until mid season.
And if for some reason Kubiak leaves, there's a guy named Kyle Shanahan who would be on McNair's short list to be the next HC.
Yes, he's young. But he knows the offense and he'd be the quickest headache pill we could take for a Kubiak hangover if Kubiak walked.
And if Dennison could stay, and not follow Kubiak, I think Shanny Jr. would do just fine. The WRs loved Kyle when he was here...and the passing game was a lot more dynamic too. TexansChick documented how smart Kyle is in terms of understanding this offense and how he handles players.
The same Kyle Shanahan that wanted to draft John Beck #10 overall in 2007?
Oh yes, because that means he's the only one who has ever mis-identified a QB in the NFL.
Care to offer more reasons than just that one?
Kyle could do a lot with Yates and Keenum. Kyle has been raised in the ZBS run game and the patented Shanahan/Kubiak passing system. If there is, for whatever reason, a Kubiak departure...he would make sense.
If RGIII blows up and the Redskins do really well, there will be lots of eyes watching Kyle Shanahan and his handling of the offense. I expect Kubiak to be re-signed though, just saying there is a Wal-Mart brand of Kubiak we could test out if the brand name product were to be taken off the shelves.
This will be the 7th season with Kubiak. During the first six years we had two winning seasons and one playoff season. The only time this team has showed any true fire and spirit was AFTER Wade Philips arrived.
So if I don't go jumping on the Kubiak wagon just yet, yall will just have to get over it. I don't want Wade as head coach by any means, and I'm quite happy right now with the circumstances as they are, because they seem to be working. My fear is what happens when Wade leaves. Kubiak has done NOTHING in his career to show me he can handle the job without someone like Wade propping him up.
The same Kyle Shanahan that wanted to draft John Beck #10 overall in 2007?
I dont have to offer more reasons. The dude wanted to draft JOHN BECK #10. Nuff said.
I remember Kshan liked Beck but I never heard anything about him wanting to draft Beck #10 overall. Thats kinda hard to believe. link?
LINKKyle Shanahan told King during his ongoing, 24-team camp tour. So they asked me who Id pick if I had the 10th pick in the draft. I told them Beck. They said hes not worth the 10th pick in the draft. I was standing on the table for him.
LINKTexand G.M. Rick Smith didnt recall it that way, but why let facts get in the way of rationalizing an ultimately failed strategy?
I remember Kshan liked Beck but I never heard anything about him wanting to draft Beck #10 overall. Thats kinda hard to believe. link?
Sigh.
Just squeezing this in, for posterity's sake (not squeezing something into a posterior, Texan Bill...get your mind out of the gutter)....
I would rather have Kubiak over Kyle any day. All I am saying is that IF the guy walks away or whatever, I don't want us hiring a HC who wants to change the offense. It works. It's built to last. We'd need a guy who has the oomph! to keep it going, and Kyle has been here before and knows the ropes.
Besides, the real HC would still stay the defacto HC (Wade Phillips) it's just a title thang.
Why would Wade go for that? Serving as the DC under some punk kid?
If Kubiak goes, Wade is either the HC or he's gone. If Kubiak goes, we might be able to persuade Dennison to stay to be able to keep the offense going but that's about it. And if Kubiak goes to another team, he's probably going to want Dennison to come join him. If we've got him under contract, we can deny that.
Wade is already HC. I thought I made that clear.
When Kyle speaks, you'll see Wade's hand behind Kyle's back. Duh.
Wade will learn that being Bob's permanent DC is where it's at. It's the life of luxury for a guy like him. He just needs time to learn that.
Other than a change of center & maybe a bigger full back would it take much to go from ZBS to a power scheme?Sigh.
Just squeezing this in, for posterity's sake (not squeezing something into a posterior, Texan Bill...get your mind out of the gutter)....
I would rather have Kubiak over Kyle any day. All I am saying is that IF the guy walks away or whatever, I don't want us hiring a HC who wants to change the offense. It works. It's built to last. We'd need a guy who has the oomph! to keep it going, and Kyle has been here before and knows the ropes.
Besides, the real HC would still stay the defacto HC (Wade Phillips) it's just a title thang.
This will be the 7th season with Kubiak. During the first six years we had two winning seasons and one playoff season. The only time this team has showed any true fire and spirit was AFTER Wade Philips arrived.
Kubiak >>>> lil Shanny
We are going to have to accept the simple fact that Gary has at least two more years as Texans HC, and to be quite honest, I hope he's got 10+ more years because 2011 started a long playoff run for this franchise.
I will believe this reality until proven otherwise. Go Texans!
On a smaller note, he's only had 2 losing seasons in that time.
You should seriously consider politics for a living!
But, you are right. He's had two losing seasons, two 8-8 seasons, and two winning seasons. Which makes him perfect arguing material for fans.
You should seriously consider politics for a living!
But, you are right. He's had two losing seasons, two 8-8 seasons, and two winning seasons. Which makes him perfect arguing material for fans.
Why give Kubiak a pass on the 6-10 record of 2010? He had built that team for 5 seasons.Considering what he had to work with in those two losing seasons .... Its hard not to give him a pass on those.
LINKTexans owner Bob McNair has rewarded coach Gary Kubiak and general manager Rick Smith with contract extensions.
Their contracts would have expired after the 2012 season.
LINKStephanie Stradley ‏@StephStradley
Kubiak has 3 year extension at his choice, could have been 4. Rick Smith extended for 4 years per Texans owner Bob McNair.
Wonder why Kubiak only wanted 3 years rather than 4. hmm
Wonder why Kubiak only wanted 3 years rather than 4. hmm
Guys on the radio are speculating that maybe Kubes thinks he may be worth more after that 3rd year is done and didn't want to be locked into the current deal.
The Mara's have wanted to get rid of Coughlin each one of those 5 years. Both SB teams were 9-7 and made inexplicable playoff runs when the talk was about getting rid of the HC going into Wildcard Weekend.
Coughlin only got a 3 yr extention and he's won 2 SB's in 5 yrs.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ry-kubiak-and-rick-smith-contract-extensions/
The terms aren't out yet.
What pay bump? I thought Wade was still under his original contract. I must dis-remember (if so, maybe I can pitch for Yankees) but thought Wade decided he wanted to finish what he started and was obligated to Texans? Can someone provide link about this "bump"?General manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak crafted and fielded a team that made a major breakthrough last season: the Houston Texans first trip to the playoffs.
Owner Bob McNair had major faith in both of them, and with that progress and payoff the contract extensions theyve both gotten are well deserved.
While fielding congratulatory messages, both Smith and Kubiak should make one important stop today in the office of defensive coordinator Wade Phillips to say thanks for his contribution.
They were smart enough to hire him, but the story of the Texans and the job security of Smith and Kubiak could be a far different tale but for the contribution of Phillips in his first year overseeing the defense.
Kubiak is an offensive head coach who calls the plays. Finding the right defensive "head coach" was a must for the franchise. And, coming out of a lockout, Phillips transformation of the group into a 3-4 with a real personality was nothing short of phenomenal.
His finger prints were on the draft selections of J.J. Watt and Brooks Reed, great fits for his system who made giant and immediate contributions. He saw how good Brian Cushing could be inside instead of outside. He voted for the plan that brought in Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning.
And, much to the Texans' relief, he took the pay bump McNair gave him late last season to pass on a trip to Tampa Bay to interview for the head coaching job.
Smith and Kubiak deserve applause and credit. I dont see them as the type to rest on their laurels now. The division is primed for the taking again, and a second division title in the row could indicate that the franchise is only at the start of something big.
Something that might never have really gotten started and might have been scrapped but for Phillips contribution.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/37762/smith-kubiak-should-thank-phillips
What pay bump? I thought Wade was still under his original contract. I must dis-remember (if so, maybe I can pitch for Yankees) but thought Wade decided he wanted to finish what he started and was obligated to Texans? Can someone provide link about this "bump"?
General manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak crafted and fielded a team that made a major breakthrough last season: the Houston Texans’ first trip to the playoffs.
Owner Bob McNair had major faith in both of them, and with that progress and payoff the contract extensions they’ve both gotten are well deserved.
While fielding congratulatory messages, both Smith and Kubiak should make one important stop today in the office of defensive coordinator Wade Phillips to say thanks for his contribution.
They were smart enough to hire him, but the story of the Texans and the job security of Smith and Kubiak could be a far different tale but for the contribution of Phillips in his first year overseeing the defense.
Kubiak is an offensive head coach who calls the plays. Finding the right defensive "head coach" was a must for the franchise. And, coming out of a lockout, Phillips’ transformation of the group into a 3-4 with a real personality was nothing short of phenomenal.
His finger prints were on the draft selections of J.J. Watt and Brooks Reed, great fits for his system who made giant and immediate contributions. He saw how good Brian Cushing could be inside instead of outside. He voted for the plan that brought in Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning.
And, much to the Texans' relief, he took the pay bump McNair gave him late last season to pass on a trip to Tampa Bay to interview for the head coaching job.
Smith and Kubiak deserve applause and credit. I don’t see them as the type to rest on their laurels now. The division is primed for the taking again, and a second division title in the row could indicate that the franchise is only at the start of something big.
Something that might never have really gotten started and might have been scrapped but for Phillips’ contribution.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/37762/smith-kubiak-should-thank-phillips
LINKKubiaks new deal begins this year and expires after the 2014 season. Smiths extension begins in 2013 and expires after the 2016 season.
They should thank Wade.
As far as sitting on there laurels, after the much ballyhooed 9-7 season Gary decided to have an elective surgery (Sleep Apnea) during the combine, and left the scouting up to Rick and the rest of the scouts. This was followed by the KJ draft and a 6-10 season. Hopefully Gary learned from that.
1 playoff appearence = 3/4 yr contract extention. One SB tropy must = a lifetime in BoBBYs world.
He saw how good Brian Cushing could be inside instead of outside.
Guys on the radio are speculating that maybe Kubes thinks he may be worth more after that 3rd year is done and didn't want to be locked into the current deal.