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That's probably true. But it doesn't take into account the role football has in generating donations from alumni. And the overall prestige of a school. If there wasn't $$$ being generated, college football wouldn't be such a big deal.There was a USA Today (iirc) article awhile back that said something like only 7 college football program actually made a net profit.
I think you're right. Which is why the schools would probably have to make the football players (and maybe basketball players) salaried university employees in order to pay them. If that happens, there would be a huge split between the Alabamas, UTs, and Ohio States (who could make that happen), from the Rices, UHs, and SMU (who can't). Wait...there's already a large divide between these schools. Nevermind.If the NCAA opens the floodgates to pay football players, I have no doubt someone will take it to court to pay ALL college athletes. And while it can be argued that football brings the revenue so those athletes should reap the rewards (beyond free school, food, housing, etc.), the same logic of Title 9 will most likely be applied to all sports.
I hear ya. If true, he probably just didn't want to live in a dorm.
I went to school where Arian went to school, though I was there back in the days with Reggie White. Anyway, the "jock dorm" and cafeteria was fantastic according to a couple of my wrestler friends who lived there at the time. The athletes were offered a buffet style meal, which often included lobster, prime rib, rib eye steaks, etc., and was available to all athletes whether they were on the football team or tennis team. It used to piss off the rest of us who ate the slop UT fed the rest of us students who actually were flipping the bill.
As for money on the side, I have a friend who used to play OT for Wake Forest back when the Baldinger brothers played there. He used to talk about how after the games and such the alumni would walk up and shake their hands, with $100 bills in their palms, and tell them "good game". It is not uncommon for the athletes to get a little extra cash on the side.
Myth: College Sports Are a Cash Cow
Only seven other athletics programs at public universities broke even or had net operating income on athletics each year from 2005-2009, according to data provided by USA Today to the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics (for which I consult).
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For almost every other university, sports is a money-losing proposition. Only big-time college football has a chance of generating enough net revenue to cover not only its own costs but those of Olympic sports like field hockey, gymnastics, and swimming. Not even mens basketball at places like Duke University or the University of Kansas can generate enough revenue to make programs profitable.
As a result, most colleges and universities rely on what the NCAA calls allocated revenue. This includes direct and indirect support from general funds, student fees, and government appropriations. In other words, most colleges subsidize their athletics programs, sometimes to startling degrees.
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Not sure if this info has been posted in this thread, but figured it was kinda' important to understand on this subject.
Not sure if this info has been posted in this thread, but figured it was kinda' important to understand on this subject.
Righteous Arian wants everyone to believe he was taking money for food & rent. One thing a division 1, SEC Powerhouse, full scholarship football player doesn't need is money for food and rent. Now if they decide to leave the comforts of their dorm room to move to an off campus apartment that they cannot afford, they still don't need money for rent, they need money for STUPIDITY. They can always eat at the athletes mess hall regardless.
I don't give a rats ass he took money in college, I just want him to start running like he used to. We got the Ravens, Seahawks, 49ers, and the surprising 3-0 Chiefs in four of our next five games. That's a tough schedule for any team.
This. And the NCAA profits billions on their backs anyhow that just gives their execs an excuse to give themselves raises.
NCAA released business statements on all their revenue streams, they aren't paying themselves millions.
At most Universities the money subtracted from your monthly scholarship for your shared dorm room is at least 50% higher than your share of rent in an off campus apartment would be.
I don't know what generation you are referring to with the "Athlete's mess hall" comment, but they don't have those anymore. Football players have a "Training Table" where they can eat one meal a day (in many schools of poor quality---mystery meat and rice) but only during football season. After football season in the late fall, training table ends---no training table in the Spring, Summer, or during holiday breaks.
At most Universities the money subtracted from your monthly scholarship for your shared dorm room is at least 50% higher than your share of rent in an off campus apartment would be.
I don't know what generation you are referring to with the "Athlete's mess hall" comment, but they don't have those anymore. Football players have a "Training Table" where they can eat one meal a day (in many schools of poor quality---mystery meat and rice) but only during football season. After football season in the late fall, training table ends---no training table in the Spring, Summer, or during holiday breaks.
No way should they be able to have that kind of access to their money to be able to do stuff like this. They at least need to put restrictions on how much access athletes have to that money. but Again, the athletes put themselves in that situation.
Apart from that, Who cares what the big football powers would like...the rule would be in place to protect the kid not the university. It would also force them to get their **** together.
For instance, if your're gonna recruit kids from the hood who come from bad situations, you as the university better make damn sure you monitor them carefully and create a support system around them so that they're not putting themselves in bad situations and keeping themselves out of trouble.
My son went to SFA for five years and said the exact opposite. All meals throughout the day and an extremely nice dorm were standard for football players. He eventually moved to an apartment as an upperclassman, and it, too, was fully paid by scholarship.
Not sure what schools you are talking about, but if SFA - an FCS college - can provide all of that, I have little doubt that the big programs are loaded with perks and nice facilities.
And he had access to the training staff year round. I cannot imagine that SFA is leading the charge in taking care of their football players.
Check with your son and see if this was not also true at SFA. I know the scholarships at D1AA schools are a little different, many schools offering only partial schollies. Maybe they make it up by giving the players better meals/accomodations?