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Effect of win on season?
- Thread starter Seegara
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The Third Man
Rookie
Come on, Texans Talk: let's turn this win into a negative! We can do it!
Showtime100
Got JJ?
I think it would be more interesting to hear how this somehow makes us a playoff team.
It didn't hurt!
speedfreek
All Pro
Great win, love to beat the oilers.. (hope Bud turned in his grave)
But lets be realistic, Tenn is a bad team. If we can somehow steal
one against Philly then I'd be willing to talk 7-9 or 8-8.
No playoffs this year unless Luck gets folded in half against Pitt
But lets be realistic, Tenn is a bad team. If we can somehow steal
one against Philly then I'd be willing to talk 7-9 or 8-8.
No playoffs this year unless Luck gets folded in half against Pitt
The Texans allowed a rookie to go 27-41 for 299 yds. That rookie also had several catchable passes dropped. This game strengthened my belief that without Foster, the Texans don't have a chance against an average team.
And yes, I'm taking into account the score. Houston just simply can't cover well. The Iggles will drive that point home next week.
EDIT: Don't even get me started on the OL issues. The Texans TE's suck also. Big part of the pass pro issues.
And yes, I'm taking into account the score. Houston just simply can't cover well. The Iggles will drive that point home next week.
EDIT: Don't even get me started on the OL issues. The Texans TE's suck also. Big part of the pass pro issues.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
The Texans allowed a rookie to go 27-41 for 299 yds. That rookie also had several catchable passes dropped. This game strengthened my belief that without Foster, the Texans don't have a chance against an average team.
And yes, I'm taking into account the score. Houston just simply can't cover well. The Iggles will drive that point home next week.
EDIT: Don't even get me started on the OL issues. The Texans TE's suck also. Big part of the pass pro issues.
You're right.
This game didn't show me anything I didn't already know. Arian Foster can run all over a bad team and carry the Texans to a win? That's common knowledge.
We faced a defense that didn't have any of the bizarre pass deflections go their way and that might not have been able to get them if they had gone their way. These guys aren't very good at all. We played our usual (When Arian is available) half a game of football and beat a bad team.
If Mettenberger had a little more chemistry with his WR's and the Titans WR's actually caught some of the passes they dropped we'd most likely have been fortunate to get out of there with a 30-27 type win.
We'll be lucky to finish the year 8-8. Damn lucky and when we do we'll know nothing about the QB's on our roster other than Fitz, we'll be drafting middle of the pack so the cream of the crop will again be out of our reach, and everybody on this team that actually can do their job at a high level will be one more year older.
Still feels like a wasted season to me (though it was nice to know that we aren't going to finish 3-13. 4-12 is still possible though). Nothing changed.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Where's the option "causes another poll?"
That's close to what I was thinking
Showtime100
Got JJ?
We need a poll to find the cause for the next poll. Make it rain.
I don't feel like it's a wasted season, regardless of the record, unless I start to see a lot of regression. So far I've seen improvement in all areas except OL. I like the new DB's ( with the possible exception of DJ ) and they seem to be learning the system OK. All I'm looking for is a competitive team and I see Fitz as the primary limiting factor on that.
Hopefully JDC came out of this game healthy and is ready for more snaps next week. The Texan's only hope is one helluva pass rush and tackling the RB on their way to the QB. If Foley gets the time that Mett's got today, the Texan's secondary is gonna be blow torched all day long.
That leads to Fitz playing from behind, which leads to INT's, which leads to blow outs. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Iggles hang 40+ on the Texans.
DX-TEX
#TomSavageDontCare
Showtime100
Got JJ?
Any word on Whitney Mercilus? He didn't look too bad in terms of injury, but that can be deceiving.
I don't know that there's a turnaround. I never thought this was a 2-14 team. This makes me believe we are that team that will win the games they're supposed to.... which means Tennessee @ home should be a win. Until now, I didn't believe that we would sweep the Jags. I expect it now. So we "should" have seven wins at least.
Philly, Cleveland, @Indy, Cincinnati, Baltimore.... still don't see us winning one of these. In the game, competitive, close... yes. But I couldn't predict a win in any one in particular.
Texan_Bill
Hall of Fame
Meh!!!
So the Steelers beat the Colts, we're half a game back for the division lead.
Most likely won't happen, but it would be nice if we were to beat Philly next week at home, while the Giants handle the Colts in New York, after a bye.
Most likely won't happen, but it would be nice if we were to beat Philly next week at home, while the Giants handle the Colts in New York, after a bye.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Why would this win need to solidify this team? Solidify what exactly? We're an average team with some strengths and with some weaknesses. We weren't that bad last week and we're not that great just because of a win against one of the worst teams in the league. We're right there in the middle somewhere while the new regime looks for ways to pull out wins in close games. Most games are of ours are going to be close. We lost the last few over bonehead plays. This was their best win to date where they won for most of the game other than the Raiders. It was a good win because they needed it. They got it, and now we roll on for the next opponent. We're 4-4 and that is right on par with where I expected this team to be. I'm okay with it. I like the way this team is playing for the most part. They play hard throughout the entire game and have a lot of enthusiasm.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Philly hasn't scored 40 once this season, and they have played the #15, #20, #24, #25 and #27 defenses.
Those same defenses are #16, #31, #5, #27 and #20 in points allowed. In other words, they give up a lot of yards and a lot of points.
Except for Arizona, which is #20 overall and #5 on points allowed. And they beat Philly yesterday. The Texans just happen to be #23 and #8 in those same categories.
The Cards offense is only #23 on total yards, where the Texans are #16. Both teams are around #16 on scoring offenses. There are similarities.
Philly has only beat one team this year with a winning record (Indy) by three points, and lost the two other games (SF and Ari).
Talking common opponents, they let Washington score 34 on them and won by a FG. Their shutout of the Giants who gave the Texans their only stomping this season. Let's call that a wash.
Point being, I think the "high powered" aspect is a bit overrated. They are still 5-2 and could easily put a hurt on the Texans, but they play a lot of close games and have only had one blowout out all season (I'm not counting the Jacksonville game to start the season because everyone blew them out in the first four games of the season).
I got this all screwed up... I forgot the Colts beat the Bengals last week while we lost to the Steelers. At 4-4, we're a full game behind the Colts 5-3 after their loss to the Steelers. A game & a half considering the head to head really.
So if we beat the Eagles (most likely not going to happen) & the Colts lose to the Giants (Giants coming off a bye week, playing at home) then we'll be tied at 5-4 each, with them still in the lead because of the head to head.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Great stuff, here and over in the other thread. I was wondering along these lines this morning but wouldn't be able to research it until tonight. You've saved me a lot of time. And I'm beginning to think that Philly at home is a winable game. A win next Sunday and we're back on schedule for a 10 win season and a legitimate shot at the playoffs.
(Edit) This was in response to Sandman.
(Edit) This was in response to Sandman.
speedfreek
All Pro
Just imagine what "could have been" if the Texans had not
pissed down their leg for 3 minutes and just played sound
football the entire game against Pitt.
Would have changed the complexion of the division -- at least
for a couple of weeks.
pissed down their leg for 3 minutes and just played sound
football the entire game against Pitt.
Would have changed the complexion of the division -- at least
for a couple of weeks.
Bulls on Parade
2017 Astros: Earn It!
I can't wait for Sunday against the Eagles. Brian Cushing will likely return and we should finally see Watt, Clowney and Cushing at the same time. That hasn't been the case since the first half against the Redskins back in Week 1. We need to keep our three best defensive players healthy so they can dominate at the same time. I want this defense to be the backbone of a very successful team. I want to see it flourish in the second half of the season and for many years to come. Sort of like the Ravens and Steelers had that awesome reputation and identity of having a "nasty, physical and talented" defense for the past few decades.
At 4-4 we're still in the playoff mix guys. One game back of the 5-3 Colts for first place albeit they own the tiebreaker for now. We need to do something this Houston Texans franchise has never done: Beat the Colts at Indianapolis (0-12 all time). We'll play them at Indy on December 14. A Texans road win against the Colts is all I want for Christmas this year. Get 'er done. That game could be huge if we spark a winning streak coming off the bye week. This Eagles game on Sunday is going to be a battle.
J.J. Watt and Arian Foster have put this team on their backs. Everybody else has to follow their leadership, hard work and dedication. I've been enjoying this 2014 Texans season. Even when we lost those three games in a row they were some competitive games, one score losses, against three really good teams. Now the focus is simply on winning games. Nothing a four or five-game winning streak can't fix moving forward.
I'm so bleeping pumped up, amped up, on an adrenaline high right now. I really want to put some pads on myself and line up at nose tackle for the Houston Texans defense. I'd cause some monstrous havoc every snap out of pure emotions. I would lay it all on the line for Romeo Crennel and his three Super Bowl rings. He's the best defensive coordinator in the game. It's time for the players to step up and get the job done. Follow J.J. Watt and Arian Foster to the promise land.
At 4-4 we're still in the playoff mix guys. One game back of the 5-3 Colts for first place albeit they own the tiebreaker for now. We need to do something this Houston Texans franchise has never done: Beat the Colts at Indianapolis (0-12 all time). We'll play them at Indy on December 14. A Texans road win against the Colts is all I want for Christmas this year. Get 'er done. That game could be huge if we spark a winning streak coming off the bye week. This Eagles game on Sunday is going to be a battle.
J.J. Watt and Arian Foster have put this team on their backs. Everybody else has to follow their leadership, hard work and dedication. I've been enjoying this 2014 Texans season. Even when we lost those three games in a row they were some competitive games, one score losses, against three really good teams. Now the focus is simply on winning games. Nothing a four or five-game winning streak can't fix moving forward.
I'm so bleeping pumped up, amped up, on an adrenaline high right now. I really want to put some pads on myself and line up at nose tackle for the Houston Texans defense. I'd cause some monstrous havoc every snap out of pure emotions. I would lay it all on the line for Romeo Crennel and his three Super Bowl rings. He's the best defensive coordinator in the game. It's time for the players to step up and get the job done. Follow J.J. Watt and Arian Foster to the promise land.
Cushing against the Eagles' swift RBs (McCoy, Sproles) worries me more than it encourages me.
utahmark
markbeth
I would think if we lose to Philly then were looking at 7-9 or 8-8. If we win we still have 3 games left against Tenn and Jacksonville, we could hopefully win 9 or 10 games.
I don't think we will beat Philly though.
Crazy thing is that this team could be 12-4 or 4-12 with its current record.
That said, I think they are a .500 team, so 8-8 is probable, and to be honest, more than I expected this season.
Three wins with Titans and Jags, so just have to figure out of they can win one (or more) vs. Eagles, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, and Browns. Personally, out of these teams, I really want to see them get the monkey of their backs and beat the Colts in Indy.
That said, I think they are a .500 team, so 8-8 is probable, and to be honest, more than I expected this season.
Three wins with Titans and Jags, so just have to figure out of they can win one (or more) vs. Eagles, Colts, Ravens, Bengals, and Browns. Personally, out of these teams, I really want to see them get the monkey of their backs and beat the Colts in Indy.
I'm predicting a win, but really have nothing of substance to base that on. It's more wishful thinking. If we beat Philly, then Cleveland after the bye, that puts us at 6-3 with seven games to go.
Again, wishful thinking.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Wow. If we beat those teams, we get to lose one of our current losses?
We'd be 6-4, not 6-3.
Philly is going to be a very, very hard team to beat. We have got to get to Foles or he is going to eat our secondary alive.
Wow. If we beat those teams, we get to lose one of our current losses?
We'd be 6-4, not 6-3.
I blame S.T.A.R. testing.
True.
Sigma
Veteran
MistaRed
Rookie
I think we can win if we force Foles into another multi interception game. Shady McCoy in space against our LBs is something I don't want to see.Wow. If we beat those teams, we get to lose one of our current losses?
We'd be 6-4, not 6-3.
Philly is going to be a very, very hard team to beat. We have got to get to Foles or he is going to eat our secondary alive.
RTP2110
All Pro
This win just continued the trend IMO, beating bad QBs. Our 4 wins this season have come against a subpar RG3, Derek Carr, EJ Manual, and Zach Mettenberger. I still don't feel like we have the defense to stop, or the offense to keep up with good QBs. I'm a bit nervous about the Eagles game, as we are allowing way too many big passing plays (there were several times our DBs were beaten last week, and M'berger missed the throws), and have trouble with pass catching RB's.
The good news is we still have M'berger, Bortles x2, Hoyer, and Dalton still on the schedule.
The good news is we still have M'berger, Bortles x2, Hoyer, and Dalton still on the schedule.
NYTexansFan
Waterboy
I'd say we've kept up with good offenses, just have given teams with potent offenses free points on ridiculous turnovers/miscues.
sandman
Brexit Advisor
Lost by 3 to Romo
Lost by 5 to Luck
Lost by 7 to Big Ben
Yep, they have actually fared well against the better QB's they have faced this season except for Eli. And with Eli you never know if you are getting the HOFer or the Journeyman.