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I just heard on 790 that Kubiak said Duane Brown will definitely be the starter . They also said hes playing with the first team in mini-camp .
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I just heard on 790 that Kubiak said Duane Brown will definitely be the starter . They also said hes playing with the first team in mini-camp .
That is stunning, really almost too difficult to believe ?
While I've heard many positive comments about Browns upside, and actually
some very good reports about his ability right now to function as a blocker on rushing plays, nowhere have I heard that he's ready to be an NFL passblocker, especially at LT ? Actually just the opposite.
That is stunning, really almost too difficult to believe ?
While I've heard many positive comments about Browns upside, and actually
some very good reports about his ability right now to function as a blocker on rushing plays, nowhere have I heard that he's ready to be an NFL passblocker, especially at LT ? Actually just the opposite.
unless it is a Qb says David Carr. Actually based on size and physical skills (quick feet and long arms) Brown should do well. If not Old Faithful is right there which is why Salaam was signed. I can't believe that Spencer will not get at least some plays at some point as he did beat out pretty good starter two years ago. Kubes has identified CS as RG. Frye may yet have something to say & then there is my fave of all faves (drum roll please) Jordan SParks! No, that was last year's Idol, I meant Black.Baptism by fire...I can dig it.
I'm just glad Ron Dayne isn't here to break another promising LT's leg.
There was supposed to be an animal sacrifice, but Dayne barbqued it.I thought of that ... maybe we can sacrifice Dayne in an injury excorcism .
I best most of those reports were from talking heads and not actual NFL coaches, correct?
This is encouraging news, especially this early into off-season workouts.
I'm just glad Ron Dayne isn't here to break another promising LT's leg.
I'm just glad Ron Dayne isn't here to break another promising LT's leg.
I think you misheard. On 790 they said Kubiak said he'll be starting with the first team in minicamp and training camp. That doesn't mean he'll be starting on opening day. I think they want to see how well he does and if they don't think he can start immediately then Salaam will be put back as the starting LT. Kubiak didn't say Duane Brown would be the starter at the beginning of the season.
790 (David Dalati to be specific) also said that Salaam wasn't happy about it and that Kubes had to talk to him about it.
Big mini camp news right off the bat: as of today, Duane Brown is the Texans' starting left tackle. After the team's first mini camp practice of 2008, Texans head coach Gary Kubiak named the first-round draft pick out of Virginia Tech as the current starter over veteran Ephraim Salaam.
"We’ve got to see how far we can bring this kid in the next month, so we put him right in there with the first group today," Kubiak said. "And I know it was very tough on Ephraim, and y’all know I have a great deal of respect for Ephraim and I can understand why it was tough, but as I explained to him, I’ve got to see how far I can bring this young man. But I know Ephraim’s going to do his job and I’m expecting good things from him, but we felt like we had to put this kid to work right away."
Brown worked with the first team for much of practice, facing off against defensive end Mario Williams (who looked even quicker and more aggressive than he did last year).
"He’ll be working with the first group, and that’s the only way we’re going to find out if this kid’s going to get to where we want him to go and how quick he can get there," Kubiak said of Brown. "You draft these kids in the first round to come in, and play and that’s nothing against Ephraim, as I said, and we’ve had this conversation. I understand the difficulty in that (for Salaam), but we as coaches feel like we have to put this kid to work right away."
While it's common knowledge that Brown was selected to eventually take the reigns from Salaam, it's quite a surprise to hear an announcement like this so soon.
Brown worked with the first team for much of practice, facing off against defensive end Mario Williams (who looked even quicker and more aggressive than he did last year).
LINK(on how T Duane Brown looked) “Well, I’ll have to go back and see but, you know, we’ve got to see how far we can bring this kid in the next month and so we put him right in there with the first group today. And I know it was very tough on Ephraim (Salaam), and y’all know I have a great deal of respect for Ephraim and I can understand why it was tough, but as I explained to him, I’ve got to see how far I can bring this young man. But I know Ephraim’s going to do his job and I’m expecting good things from him, but we felt like we had to put this kid to work right away.
(on if T Duane Brown is first on the depth chart) “Yes, he’ll be working with the first group, and that’s the only way we’re going to find out if this kid’s going to get to where we want him to go and how quick he can get there. You draft these kids in the first round to come in and play and that’s nothing against Ephraim (Salaam), as I said, and we’ve had this conversation. But I understand the difficulty in that, but we as coaches feel like we have to put this kid to work right away.”
He will probably be raw to begin with but I think this is the right decision. LT's need experience. Kubiak and Schaub are smart enough to add an early season "how is the LT doing" read to the progression.
A QB has to "Feel" the pressure rather than see it and know when to step up or out of the pocket .
QB's "feel" the pressure by either hearing or seeing it coming. There is no mythical 6th sense.
The extra read was a poorly framed joke that I am sure Kubiak and Schaub are smart enough to realize they have a rookie at LT.
Start the kid?? What's the worst case scenario (besides a broken leg - knock on wood)? If he struggles to get things figured out, Salaam is a decent (not great) back-up.. Or at least until the ROok feels comfortable.
I'll just throw in how much I think the rest of the line will also have improved by opening day. We got a legit starting Center now and I think we'll have one hell of a battle for the RG position.
Much like last year it is monumental that whomever is lined up in the backfield is able at times to help on the blitz.
Charles Spencer was drafted in the third round and was transitioning to LT from guard and he still beat out the competition (that included Ephraim Salaam) to start opening day in 2006. This was under the instruction of Mike Sherman who I believe probably comes in somewhere behind Alex Gibbs.
I think Brown will be the starter on opening day unless there's just a real disconnect and he's very much not getting it.
Worst case scenario? He exhibits a learning curve and becomes the most hated player on the team on this message board.
Raw means raw. Let's all remember that when he gets schooled by some veteran come game time.
I have no problem with this move. As someone who wasn't a big fan of the pick, this declaration really displays how highly they thought of Brown and gives me some hope that it may indeed ending up being a quality/high value selection. Now that he has been in rookie camp maybe they are now even more sold on the guy and are letting him know that they expect him to be the starting LT from Day One. If they had any doubts, you would doubt they would make such a statement this early in the guy's development/career. Sounds promising.
Go Brown in 2008!
Hence, "if he struggles.......... Salaam"
Wasn't Chester Pitts called upon to play some LT in his rookie season (2002)?
Start the kid?? What's the worst case scenario (besides a broken leg - knock on wood)? If he struggles to get things figured out, Salaam is a decent (not great) back-up.. Or at least until the ROok feels comfortable.
I dunno 'bout breakin his will, but I for one am more concerned about Schaub breakin his neck if Brown is out there too soon.But realistically, the most important thing is that those first 5 games dont break his will, that's a tough stretch for any LT much less a rookie.
He played LT for the entirety of the 2002 and 2003 seasons, then was moved to LG to make way for Seth Wand.
(on facing Mario Williams now compared to four years ago) “It’s a way different Mario than I lined up against four years ago. He’s a beast out there. Like I said, it’s good going against him. It can really help you out on Sundays.”
SH is now giving the Texans an A+ for their draft .
I have no problem with this move. As someone who wasn't a big fan of the pick, this declaration really displays how highly they thought of Brown and gives me some hope that it may indeed ending up being a quality/high value selection. Now that he has been in rookie camp maybe they are now even more sold on the guy and are letting him know that they expect him to be the starting LT from Day One. If they had any doubts, you would doubt they would make such a statement this early in the guy's development/career. Sounds promising.
Go Brown in 2008!
QB's "feel" the pressure by either hearing or seeing it coming. There is no mythical 6th sense.
The extra read was a poorly framed joke that I am sure Kubiak and Schaub are smart enough to realize they have a rookie at LT.
QB's "feel" the pressure by either hearing or seeing it coming. There is no mythical 6th sense.
Excellent point. Need to spread rep and all of that blah-blah.Charles Spencer was drafted in the third round and was transitioning to LT from guard and he still beat out the competition (that included Ephraim Salaam) to start opening day in 2006.
The Dayne Train is only a phone call away.I'm just glad Ron Dayne isn't here to break another promising LT's leg.