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Pure Chaos
Basically it's just too perfect. So, no.
It's hard enough to predict one team making it to the Super Bowl. The odds of guessing and seeing BOTH teams there is pretty crazy!
The Cowboys won't make a superbowl as long as Jerry Jones continues to run the team. They are a downard trending organization that doesn't learn from its mistakes. Until they are sold or Stephen Jones takes over, I'd be shocked if they have any real success.
You do realize they have three Super Bowl trophies under JJ's rule, right? Not saying he hasn't screwed the fido frequently but success is not unknown to him.
Thanks for the statistics supporting my prediction of 2525. I do not pull this information out of my er hat. Also, that same year out first round pick will be a defensive lineman that can rush the passer. In the second round we will trade Sage Rosenfels to Minnesota for a pick.There are 32 teams in the NFL.
1/16 from the AFC and 1/16 from the NFC make it to the superbowl every year.
If the teams that made it were completely randomly chosen, you'd have a 1/256 chance of seeing an All-Texas Superbowl.
So assuming the NFL continues for another few centuries, it should happen eventually
No. Too many variables for that to happen.
I will say though that I wouldn't just simplify it, as some has, that the Texans are a team on the rise and the Cowboys in a downfall. The Texans have been counted as that rising team before and then crashed. Though this team seems much more stable and alot more talented, I'm just a person who has to see it to believe it. On the Boys, as big a fan as I am of them, I am realistic but I don't see them on the downside. They still have youth and talent. It is a matter of getting people to buy into the program, etc. As bad as Jerry can be, I doubt he will ever be so dumb that he would let the team just fall apart.
So taking all that above, it would just have to be a perfect storm.
You do realize they have three Super Bowl trophies under JJ's rule, right? Not saying he hasn't screwed the fido frequently but success is not unknown to him.
Yeah I don't really see the Cowbodys on the decline either.......they're backfield should be beasting on people for the foreseeable future. If Felix Jones didn't get hurt, that national audience might not be goo gooing over Chris Johnson right now. Felix Jones in the short time he played last year showed even more big play ability than Chris Johnson.
I'm not sure how you can be paying atttention to how the Cowboys are being run and conclude that Felix Jones proves the organization isn't in decline. I don't know where to even start other than to say if after watching Jerry run the team for 20 years you don't see their problems when he's general managing then there is nothing that I could argue that would convince you.
HoustonFog,
Would you like to wager that the Texans have a better W/L record than the Cowboys over the next 3-5 years?
I expect the Cowboys to have a losing record this season. I think it's likely that their OLine totally falls apart this season. Certainly, as the distance from Parcells increases, the talent level and particularly the discipline and development of the players will continue to wane.
Again, all of the players Cowboy fans are counting on were drafted and developed by Parcells (with very few exceptions):
Romo
Ware
Newman
Bradie James
M. Barber
Ratliff
Witten
Spears
Show me a list of highly productive players brought in post Parcells.
I"m not hero-worshipping Parcells. I don't think he is a great coach anymore. However, he had the stature and commanded enough respect that he was able to get things done beyond what Jerry wanted to do. As long as Jerry has dopey yes men at head coach (Phillips, Campo, Gailey, Switzer), the organization will be a mess.
I'm always up for a friendly wager. Although, I've never said the Texans weren't talented or improving...they just haven't shown anything yet. I'm not predicting a SB either. I never said that. The Boys could suck this year under Wade. I've ackowledged that and am a realistic fan. I juist think there are just as many question marks on both teams and it usually depends on who shows up in 2 tough divisions. But your above statements just contradicted what I showed you about the drafts. Parcells completely bombed in the one draft while Jerry actually nailed the 2007 draft so far. So your comment bolded above, really doesn't have a basis right now. I'm sure you know this but Jerry isn't really just picking who he wants on draft day. He actually has some of the top scouts out there and relies on them. Many of these guys helped when Parcells was there. We will see who pans out. A majority of their secondary this year will be Jerrys picks. 2 of their 3 RBs will be Jerrys picks. So to throw out Ware and them and say all of this team is Parcells and there is a decline is just plain wrong. Some of these guys have played well. I've done nothing but rag on Jones on these boards but I also am not going to ignore what he has done also. If someone told me in the 20 years a guy owns a team that we would have ups and downs but 3 more trophies, I'd take it...though speaking about them 14 years later is not something I do and is lame. I'll take another SB and 3-4 pretty good years instead of soso and steady anyday. Jerry has issues but he does like to win and his son is smart. So I just don't ever see them dropping off the radar for more than a year or so at a time. If Wade doesn't work, which in my book is a given, then he will upgrade again. He knows the pressure. At least Switzer did enough to win one SB with the talent..lol
"Jerry nailed the 2007 draft"? really?:
Anthony Spencer
James Marten
Doug Free
Deon Anderson
Alan Ball
Isiah Stanback
Nick Folk
Courtney Brown
Umm, a few more drafts like that and you'll be even worse than I thought. I guess you are counting Anthony Spencer and Stanback as great picks? Spencer has been okay and Stanback is all hype to this point... Other than the kicker and a nice FB, that is a pretty lousy draft.
By the way, I understand that scouts do most of the work. However, it is the decision maker that makes the calls. And yes, Jerry does make some crazy decisions all the time. For instance, it was Jerry who reached for Quincy Carter in the 2nd round. It was Jerry who traded a 1st, 3rd, and 6th to Detroit for Roy Williams. It was Jerry who signed T.O., Pacman, Tank Williams. The Cowboys haven't won a playoff game since 1996. The reason for that is that Jerry Jones is a horrible GM. I know he wants to win but he doesn't want to win with someone else getting the credit. That's why he and Jimmy separated and that's why he and Parcells did as well. I have serious doubts that he discovers humility as he approaches 70 years old.
By the way, Dan Snyder and Al Davis also want to win and I give them about the same chance as Jerry. All that being said, as a Cowboy fan, your best hope is that next season is uncapped and Jerry is able to go buy a ton of talent, hire a good head coach and steal a championship in 2010 or 2011... It's unlikely though.
cowboys suck.
/end of thread
Really, what could you want more footballwise? The Texans winning the Super Bowl - check. Against whom, ummm, who would be best, oh yeah - the Cowboys. You can't beat Pittsburgh, the Bills, KC, Indy in the Super Bowl. Who in the NFC would you rather beat for the whole thing?
HoustonFog,
Would you like to wager that the Texans have a better W/L record than the Cowboys over the next 3-5 years?
I expect the Cowboys to have a losing record this season. I think it's likely that their OLine totally falls apart this season. Certainly, as the distance from Parcells increases, the talent level and particularly the discipline and development of the players will continue to wane.
Again, all of the players Cowboy fans are counting on were drafted and developed by Parcells (with very few exceptions):
Romo
Ware
Newman
Bradie James
M. Barber
Ratliff
Witten
Spears
Show me a list of highly productive players brought in post Parcells.
I"m not hero-worshipping Parcells. I don't think he is a great coach anymore. However, he had the stature and commanded enough respect that he was able to get things done beyond what Jerry wanted to do. As long as Jerry has dopey yes men at head coach (Phillips, Campo, Gailey, Switzer), the organization will be a mess.
As a die hard Texans' fan that has never missed a home game and a born and raised Texan, I would love an all Texas Super Bowl.
Of course the Texans should win. And where better than to do it than in THEIR house. C'mon. That would be epic.
Really, what could you want more footballwise? The Texans winning the Super Bowl - check. Against whom, ummm, who would be best, oh yeah - the Cowboys. You can't beat Pittsburgh, the Bills, KC, Indy in the Super Bowl. Who in the NFC would you rather beat for the whole thing?
The biggest key to the Cowboys next year will be their O line if you ask me. When their O line blocked well for them last season Romo had all day to throw the ball and their offense was as ELITE as any offense in the league. I imagine that they'll be a more ball controlled offense next season with that great trio of RB's. They have a better WR core than what many people think. People forget that Witten is good for a minimum of 900 yards.
Their defense should still be pretty good. Maybe not great, but pretty good if Wade is running the show.
Their O line will be the key. They'll need to pass block well for Romo to make plays through the air.
Agree..Oline and if Romo takes the next step.