Can we talk about the big fat elephant in the room for a second...

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  1. BullNation4Life

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    What the hell is up with the run defense this year? Are they missing Demeco that badly? It doesn't seem as consistent and it did last season...

    This maybe in another thread and I didn't feel like searching, but damn!

    I mean this guy >:koolaid:< could run through some of the holes Johnson ran through today...
     
  2. Playoffs

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    Kubiak...
    http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...ek-4-win/2074f864-cef0-4af1-8c04-e5c071f04e92
     
  3. Showtime100

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    I thought you were going to talk about offense on 3rd and 1 or the red zone.
     
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    Does it matter that the Titans preferred to get some meaningless yards on the ground once the game was in hand? They ran for over 100 yards in the 2nd half when the game was already in hand for the Texans. The Titans were afraid to pass. When Watt & Co. weren't dismantling their QBs, the Texans secondary were posing in the end zone. The run defense was and has been a non-issue.
     
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  6. gtexan02

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    Before the game thsi week we were ranked 5th in overall run defense.
    We were allowing 67 yards per game (5th)
    We had forced 4 fumbles (1st)
    We had allowed zero touchdowns (1st)
    We were giving up 3.8 yards per carry (10th)

    CJ1K racked up a bunch of meaningless stats in garbage time. What exactly are we worried about?
    And what do you mean about consistency? This was the first "big" game we've had against us on the ground all year
     
  7. SCOTTexans

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    Having the Titans run meaningless, works for me.... they where just running down the clock for us
     
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    What?
     


  9. Jackie Chiles

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    There's certainly room for improvement on this front but aren't we being a little overly dramatic? Elephant in the room, really? There might be something in the room but it sure ain't an elephant. At least you didn't go with "Houston, we have a problem."
     
  10. Stemp

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    Went through the play by play
    1st Quarter - 4 runs for 21 yards (5.25 avg , long of 13)
    2nd Quarter - 6 runs for 37 yards (6.16 avg, long of 19)
    3rd Quarter - 7 runs for 28 yards (4.0 avg, long of 9)
    4th Quarter - 8 runs for 55 yards (6.8 avg, long of 15)

    So Johnson got over a third of his yards in the 4th quarter, basically garbage time.

    Now, also remember that Locker went down early in the first, so the D had to switch from scheming against a running QB to a pure pocket passer, which meant fewer players in the box.
     
  11. drunkcookie

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    I'm not too too worried, as they buckle down when they need to...but on a few of those good runs early on by Johnson, the Texans front was plain beat and walled off...not sure what to think there because they've actually looked good in the other games (against Mia, Bush was doing a helluva job more than Texans a bad one, today CJSUKs just had to hit one hole and veer outside)...
     
  12. Jackie Chiles

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    No need to discredit the Tacks, CJ looked good (second time in a year and half?) and their o-line opened up some holes for him. I never felt like we were being gashed and the bottom line is 38-14.
     
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    I think the OP is on to something relevant. Chris Johnson didn't get all of his yards in garbage time, and the run defense is not where it was last year. That was apparent in the Dolphins game. I think that Demeco's presence is missed. Not as much for his physical ability, but for his football intelligence.
     
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    We gave up 79 yards against the Dolphins. They averaged 4.2 yards per carry. We gave up 0 touchdowns. We forced 2 (3?) fumbles.


    In 2011 our rushing defense gave up 96 yards per game. Other teams averaged 4.1 yards per carry. We gave up 8 TDs (0.5 per game). We forced 8 fumbles (0.5 per game).

    So not to be rude, but what are you talking about? Our run defense was nearly identical to 2011. In fact, we were arguably better in many respects.

    By the way, the Dolphins are averaging 178 yards per game against teams not named the Texans. So yeah, holding them to 79 is pretty damn good.
     
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    i think its because we run a 3-4 D and are still not doing our jobs it could also be personal lets face it Dobbins is not a wolrd class ILB and i like cody but hes deff not the COg Runn stopper that forces DOuble teams and everythinf outside

    and thoes are the two guys up the middle soooo its got to be on them losing Sharpton was pretty big IMO if he was here our run stop would be better
     
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    The Titans kept running the ball even though they were 2 scores behind... they were getting shut down everywhere else.. as i said they were just running out the clock on themselves with no chance of catching back up
     
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    When you win a game 38-14 that includes one garbage TD as part of that 14....then IMO you have little to worry about on that front.

    Your defense is stout and one of the best, if not the best in football. As I said elsewhere, just stay healthy.
     
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    He had 58 at halftime. Thats not a bad half's work for any RB .... and the score was close enough that they could still run at that time.

    Anything after 28-7 .... I'll concede as garbage time. But they did run effectively in the first half.

    Concerned ? Not really but as Kubiak said , there are always things you can do better.
     
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    not that worry about the run game, but i'd take demeco back for bradie james in a heart beat.
     
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    58 yards in one half isn't exactly gashing a team
     

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