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I'd rather have Plaxico than Chad Johnson.
Most interesting thing on Cushing's twitter is that Cromartie might even be practicing with the Texans....
briancushing56 Brian Cushing
@ @A_Cromartie31 same here we will be back at rice university Monday practicing the D, see you there!
11 hours ago
http://twitter.com/#!/briancushing56
I don't know Johnson is too much of an all eyes on me type of guy.
Not kidding. Why would I be kidding? Plaxico is going to be looking to prove himself and kick ass so he could get a pay-day. And he'd be on his best behavior because all eyes will be on him. Chad Johnson is only interested in his self-promotion and being an egocentric *********.
Something else that is interesting, Cromartie retweeting Glover Quin's tweet about "bringing the trophy to Houston":
It's sad how misunderstood Chad Johnson is. When have you ever heard of him being a locker room problem or a distraction? He never is and his teammates love him. There is a reason why the Bengals have not let him go, despite his complaints due to them not winning. Terrell Owens? Randy Moss? Those guys are let go. Chad Johnson understands that sports are for entertainment, but he also works hard and competes during every down. Have you ever heard of Chad Johnson taking plays off like Moss? Nope.
Just because he has a show during the offseason and does endzone dances doesn't mean he won't be showing up to practice or giving his all on gameday. And it's not like he would be our number one. He'd be one of the best WR2s in the entire league. Just ask Kevin Walter what kind of a person/player Chad Johnson is. I believe they are still friends.
It's sad how misunderstood Chad Johnson is. When have you ever heard of him being a locker room problem or a distraction? He never is and his teammates love him.
There is a reason why the Bengals have not let him go, despite his complaints due to them not winning.
Terrell Owens? Randy Moss? Those guys are let go. Chad Johnson understands that sports are for entertainment, but he also works hard and competes during every down. Have you ever heard of Chad Johnson taking plays off like Moss? Nope.
Just because he has a show during the offseason and does endzone dances doesn't mean he won't be showing up to practice or giving his all on gameday. And it's not like he would be our number one. He'd be one of the best WR2s in the entire league. Just ask Kevin Walter what kind of a person/player Chad Johnson is. I believe they are still friends.
Do you not know how to disagree with someone without sounding like you think the other guy who you disagree with is stupid?Are you serious with this? Either you've paid hardly any attention to this guy and the Bengals for years or your just a huge fan that's in denial of anything this guy does.
*He had such a tantrum on the field like 5 years ago that he was forced to the locker room by his coaches all because he wasn't getting enough balls.
* He had a shoving match where him and his coach had to be separated years ago that multiple team members and coaching staff members all put the blame on Chad and said he acted awful.
* 3 years ago he spent an entire off season trying to force a trade on his team campaigning to play with several other teams around the league. It was a huge distraction for their entire team. Houshmenzadah and Palmer both complained about it publicly and blasted him for how he acted.
* He followed up from that off season to have a horrible year where it was obvious that he was dogging it. He even admitted it himself after that season that he didn't give 100% and that he was disgruntled. He basically quit on his team. Probably the worse thing he's ever done.
* His constant battles with the league that he would make public about his stupid end zone dances that has gotten his team penalized in games to where even his own teammates have had to stop him from doing it after TD's.
* Then we can talk all day long about all of the other off the field nonsense he devotes his time to just for attention like the legal battles with getting his name changed or whether it's riding a bull which is a violation of his contract or whatever else you want to mention. The guy has lacked hard focus for years.
They haven't let him go, because there has never been a strong market out there where the Bengals could get good value for him. In other words, other teams haven't wanted him when the Bengals have listened to offers. Another thing is that Mike Brown is an old school owner that pretty much kept him out of spite 3 years ago because Chad tried to shake the entire organization down. Brown wanted to make a stand to the rest of his team and the NFL that the players don't run the asylum and he did. It became a grudge match between the organization and Chad that whole off season to where Palmer had to beg him publicly to either get in line or stay away from the team. Yeah, Chad hasn't been a distraction though. Lol!
Again, he admitted himself that he dogged it for practically an entire season in 2008 where he had only 540 yards that year after he had just came off of a 1,400 yard season.
What does Kevin Walter's friend list have to do with anything? I couldn't imagine Walter saying anything bad about any other player. He isn't that type of guy who is outspoken, nor is he good enough to start ruffling feathers of other players around the league or his own locker room.
There are plenty of better options than Chad Johnson that are younger, less of a distraction, give more effort, and have higher upside going forward.
Do you not know how to disagree with someone without sounding like you think the other guy who you disagree with is stupid?
Mike Brown isn't old-school...he's incompetent. He's probably the cheapest owner in the NFL and there's a reason Bengals fans hate him...it's not because of Chad Johnson.
Didn't call anyone stupid or suggest that once. Uninformed maybe. You're a fan as you have stated earlier and you just don't like the truth of what was stated. And considering the fact that I've had quite a few insults flung at me from you personally in the past, well you're really not in any position to be taken seriously on posting etiquette for the record.
That right there. Just b/c you have an opinion doesn't make it fact. Just like mine.
And the only time I get personnel is when someone makes it personnel. Your posts come across harsh and insulting even if that is not what you mean them to be.
Are you serious with this? Either you've paid hardly any attention to this guy and the Bengals for years or your just a huge fan that's in denial of anything this guy does.
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Ya know, it is possible that the guy you're responding to just simply hasn't followed Chad throughout his career.
You could link some stories to support your assertions and present the evidence that led you to your low opinion of Chad, instead of presenting it like everyone who likes football should know everything about this one player.
I personally was unaware of several things you mentioned, but I have been an avid fan of the NFL for only 3 years.
i love Ochio but we already got our Knuckle head on our team is anyone forgetting
J Jones i think with this lookout teh coaches would trust him more then Ochio since Jones pretty much already knows our offensive
I stated several facts in that initial post that backed up my stance. There is a difference in disagreeing with what someone said, and when someone is saying something that is just false and then presenting several facts in history that discredit the previous notion. That's exactly what I did, and again I think the only reason why you have a problem is because we're referring to someone that you are a fan of by your own admission.
I'm sorry, but when I'm hearing this from someone who has attacked me several times very "harshly" as you put it and "directly insulted" me in the past for pathetic reasons such as stating that the Texans offense wasn't as good as people were claiming, I can't take your criticism that seriously. Maybe if you followed your own advice this would come off as more genuine, but I've experienced what you're describing from yourself far to many times to feel like you aren't being hypocritical here.
You sure you are not confusing me with someone else?
And if I did was it because you had just posted yet another absolute about how you were right and everyone else was wrong?
The only thread I can think of that you are talking about is the "Our offense is way over rated" thread.If you're going to chastise, then own your own material at least. I'm not confusing you with anyone and it wasn't long ago that you had what I'd call a full blown meltdown in here because you didn't like my criticisms of the Texans offense and in that thread as well I posted several statistics to illustrate my stance as I have in this one. You basically said that you hated me and even made a personal threat if I'm not mistaken, so stop acting like I'm imagining things here. Don't throw stones if you're in a glass house.
Well if a strong opinion with conviction upsets you, then a message board may not be the proper place for you unfortunately. I don't know about "everyone" being wrong, but if I post my opinion then generally I think I'm right as do most people. That's why I"m giving my perspective. In this thread it was stated that Chad Johnson has never caused a distraction to his team or that he's never quit on his team, and given the facts both of those statements are wrong period unless you're going to completely change the definition of what distraction means or that you're going to pretend that Chad Johnson didn't admit to not working out before the 2008 season or trying that hard in the season himself. Either way those were false statements proven by facts.
The only thread I can think of that you are talking about is the "Our offense is way over rated" thread.
And if that is what you are talking about then you are thinking of DocBar. You two were going back and forth the entire thread.
I have never threatened anyone or said I hated them on here so if you could give me something a little more specific I would appreciate it.
Looks like Texecutioner and TEXANRED remember past threads they argue in about as well as Cromartie remembers his children's names.
No it was not that thread. It was a similar one though. Same topic basically. It was you, and I'm not confusing you one bit. The thread you're referring to was one that went on for like 17 pages and I was not all over that thread either. I posted on a few pages towards the end of it and yeah Doc Bar got extremely chippy in that thread.
I don't see how you couldn't remember. You went on and on for several posts and got really vile. I'd bring back the thread, but I don't remember the title of it. It had to do with the Texans offense though. It wasn't that long ago.
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1646294#post1646294
The last time we had gotten into it was 2-2-2011. 5 months ago. How the hell am I supposed to remember something from 5 months ago?
And the only reason you got blasted was the same reasoning that I responded to you this time. Its the "I'm right and if you don't agree with me you all are stupid" posts.
You said I was dumb and I should go educate myself.
While yes I probably could have been less of a child about my response to you being a child to me, you still need to slack up a little bit on how you respond sometimes. Your responses are the same every time.
I want to hear your opinion. I like to read how people differ in their views then my own. Sometimes my mind is changed, sometimes not.
So if I hurt your feelings 5 months ago, I'm sorry.
I tried reading it but the words blur and go blah blah blah blah.Talk about a complete spin on your part. You are just weak sauce honestly.
Own up to your own behavior, before passing judgement on anyone else because you come off as a flat out fraud here. First off you come in here bitching in a very hypocritical fascion all because you didn't like what I had to say about Chad Johnson even though I provided several facts and examples as to why. No counter points even attempted on the subject.
Then when I mentioned you needing to follow your own advice when trying to tell other posters about manners and being polite since you like to dish it out but can't take it, you act all innocent like you have no idea what I'm talking about this entire time. Of course I didn't believe one word of your drivel saying you couldn't remember either. Funny coincidence you found the thread that you claimed to have no idea about with no problem and then come back saying "it was 5 months ago." Lol! You aren't fooling anybody dude.
And once you do, you come back acting as if I attacked you when you were the guy that started throwing face palms around without even attempting a real argument and just had a tantrum in that very thread. Some of your posts were so vile in that thread they were deleted from what I can tell. If you're going to dish it out, then learn how to take it in return. It seems like every time you try quoting me or have an issue with my stance, you throw a few digs and jabs without any valid argument what so ever on the subject, and then whine like a big baby when you can't articulate an argument with substance.
If we do get ochio cinco. There is a good chance we will have to trade or cut fan favorites ..... J jones and david Anderson
David Anderson I wouldn't mind his destiny is to be our future sports radio host IMO
But at this point. Who is the better WR. Jones or cinco ????
In terms of stats I think j jones was acctually better then Chad last year
I'll take Chad Johnson in a heartbeat. He trains and plays HARD. He may have a mouth at times, but he backs it up with effort. I can deal with a guy saying something stupid every once in awhile, as long as he comes to play every day. Chad Johnson does that.
As far as Cromartie, please come play for the Texans. If we can't get Aso, Cromartie would be a nice addition to this secondary.
Yep
They would upgrade positions of need.
Do you think it's possible to sign a S in FA in addition to Cromatie and C.Johnson?
The guy I would be looking at is Atari Bigby. He's really talented. But has been somewhat injury prone. He's young and has the speed to really be an upgrade over the slow old guys this team has had at the S position for the last decade.
My #1 safety to target would be Dawan Landry.
I tried reading it but the words blur and go blah blah blah blah.
I'll take Chad Johnson in a heartbeat. He trains and plays HARD. He may have a mouth at times, but he backs it up with effort. I can deal with a guy saying something stupid every once in awhile, as long as he comes to play every day. Chad Johnson does that.
Then how do you explain 2008 where he came back after that season and admitted that he didn't work hard because he was unhappy about his contract and how he didn't get traded to Washington and also admitted that he didn't get in shape before the season? This stuff came from Chad himself. He had a horrible season that year and it was evident that he wasn't playing hard even before he admitted to it.
He's not Jesus. Very few people are always a certain way all of the time.
I don't even remember that but assuming it's true, it still doesn't speak to his overall body of work and what he is generally about.
He's human. I'm pretty sure there have been times you've done things that are out of character for you for one reason or another. Doesn't mean we should judge you on that one act.
Then how do you explain 2008 where he came back after that season and admitted that he didn't work hard because he was unhappy about his contract and how he didn't get traded to Washington and also admitted that he didn't get in shape before the season? This stuff came from Chad himself. He had a horrible season that year and it was evident that he wasn't playing hard even before he admitted to it.
I have searched and cannot find these quotes. Can you send me a link?
Why are you talking about his 2008 season as if it is representative of his career?
2001 329
2002 1,166
2003 1,355
2004 1,274
2005 1,432
2006 1,369
2007 1,440
2008 540
2009 1,047
2010 831
Those are his yearly receiving totals. 2008 was his worst year outside of his rookie year. That does not represent Chad Johnson.
I have searched and cannot find these quotes. Can you send me a link?
Facts can be pesky little things can't they.
You obviously have no ability to explain yourself and I don't see why anyone would expect any more at this point. You lie about threads you participated in, then spin what's already there, and then come back saying blah blah blah instead of responding to what "You asked about."
Weak sauce.
wtf is this thread about?
There's nothing to worry about here. Andre can get Chad all pumped up, Chad's agent can put in a call to the Texans when that is OK again, and Rick can decide not to return the calls.
Problem solved.