powda said:
31 picks...and yet only 22 starters on the field. its impossible to have every pick start.
on the other hand...
its not impossible to have every player contribute.
Yes I know, but never really said that EVERY pick had to start. I'd like to see how far i'm off base, maybe someone can steer me right with good hard fugures
powda said:
your formula dosent include the contributions of players like gaffney, wells, baxter (who was a starter) faggins, anderson, etc...
Sure they contribute, but they are not starters, that was my only point. How many plays do they make to significantly contribute
powda said:
and how do you grade a player like ragone who was drafted to be the back up quarterback? can you count that as a miss because the #1 quarterback you selected has done his job?
That is a good point, but when team like ours needs guys to step it up and start, why are we picking subs in the valuable rounds (Ragone, Morency, TJ etc....)
another thing your formulas dont account form :
powda said:
if your team does only draft 30-40% starters because they excel at signing undrafted free agents or aquiring players in free agency is it still sound for you to be derrogitory of the gm? the draft isnt the only venue in which a team aquires players (or starters).
I don't know Powda, but have they excelled at signing undrafted free agents??? I'm not to sure on that to agree with you there.
powda said:
how do you account for injuries like joppru? is that casserly's fault?
no but then again I doubt you could have predicted the injuries to Rogers in Detroit but most are quick to call him a bust and the Texans made the right call in not drafting him. The finger as to be pointed somewhere and with so many people hating this pick when it happend, I think he deserves that one on him.
powda said:
and i think its a bit premature to grade out last years draft though i will say i dont see many more of those players turning into starters.
Maybe that's why I was quick
dont get me wrong ses...i dont fully disagree with your premise. the weary,hill, and so far the joppru pick hurt bad ( i suppose i should include the hollings pick as well ). i'd love to have those back.
powda said:
i just dont see any reasonable way to apply a % to draft picks to decide a gm has done a good job. i think thats a black and white view by numbers driven fans.
That is true, but you have to start somewhere and the draft is a good place considering all the picks we've had. We can grade the chance to pick up free agents and grade the ones we've picked as well.