Quite possibly the dumbest idea I've ever seen posted on this MB.
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Quite possibly the dumbest idea I've ever seen posted on this MB.
Like I said, we will never truly know. Could be Watson, could be BOB, could be situational, or a combination. It’s all theory and speculation. You just talk like it’s 100% on Watson.
Do you think Matthew Stanford is good enough to win a Super Bowl? Talented enough?
Yes he is. Without a doubt he is.Nope
Not saying that’s wrong but if you rebuild an entire team he needs more than ONE year to adjust to the rebuild and prove himself.
Awesome. I didn’t think you’d understand. Now, can you see how that applies to BO’b?Quite possibly the dumbest idea I've ever seen posted on this MB.
We will never mention Watson in the same sentence as Brady or Brees. Also, Goff had much better defence, WRs and RBs around him.Let's see DJ's replaced Hyde. Hyde came in after camp and I would say there was very little adjustment period. With DJ being here for TC I dont see why the adjustment period wouldn't be easier for DW4.
If DW4 cant adjust to a really talented guy like Cooks after going thru a TC with him then there are other issues. Brady/Brees/Goff didn't seem to have any problems adjusting to Cooks who has played in 2 of the last 3 SB's.
Cooks isn't chopped liver.
Let's see DJ's replaced Hyde. Hyde came in after camp and I would say there was very little adjustment period. With DJ being here for TC I dont see why the adjustment period wouldn't be easier for DW4.
If DW4 cant adjust to a really talented guy like Cooks after going thru a TC with him then there are other issues. Brady/Brees/Goff didn't seem to have any problems adjusting to Cooks who has played in 2 of the last 3 SB's.
Cooks isn't chopped liver.
We will never mention Watson in the same sentence as Brady or Brees. Also, Goff had much better defence, WRs and RBs around him.
It appears you make a lot of excuses too as to why it’s all on Watson. You always accuse everyone else of making excuses, yet you always have excuses on why it’s always Watson’s fault.More excuses,
This has nothing to do with the defense.
I thought you were talking about DW4's ability to mesh with his receivers. This shouldn't be an issue.
You assume there will be a TC
It appears you make a lot of excuses too as to why it’s all on Watson. You always accuse everyone else of making excuses, yet you always have excuses on why it’s always Watson’s fault.
Awesome. I didn’t think you’d understand. Now, can you see how that applies to BO’b?
It’s funny how you tell other people to stay on topic when you always go off topic saying stuff like if Brees and Brady can do something then so should Watson. Yes, they “should” be able to mesh but the entire success of this team is not riding on their ability to mesh. I don’t see your point. Adjusting to a whole new running game with 2 receiving backs, other new receivers, and a new OC apparently calling the shots is also a huge factor that won’t just be “meshed” in TC, if there is one.Can you please stay on topic?
Dont you think DW4 should be able to mesh with a WR of Cooks ability after having a whole TC together?
It’s funny how you tell other people to stay on topic when you always go off topic saying stuff like if Brees and Brady can do something then so should Watson. Yes, they “should” be able to mesh but the entire success of this team is not riding on their ability to mesh. I don’t see your point. Adjusting to a whole new running game with 2 receiving backs, other new receivers, and a new OC apparently calling the shots is also a huge factor that won’t just be “meshed” in TC, if there is one.
What do you mean we will find out how good he is this year? He has an entire new offense and new players and "new" OC that he has to adjust to, and that he will not have much of a chance to build a rapport with in OTAs. Why are you basing this upcoming year on how good he is vs. previous years or upcoming years?
It takes more than one season for a QB to adjust to an entirely new offense, receivers, and OC, especially with no real OTAs or anything to build rapport.
I was pointing out that other QB's have been able to mesh with Cooks quickly I notice how you left Goff out of your argument) I pointed out they were able to adjust to 2 new RB's last yr, there's only 1 new RB to adjust to this yr and if healthy he's a huge upgrade. I dont think adjusting to Cobb should be an issue. Dak adjusted well to Cobb and DW4 should be able to do the same.
Kelly/DW4 have worked together for 2-3 yrs. It's been reported that they have a good relationship and IF Kelly called the Atlanta game the obviously Kelly/DW4 are on the same page.
I just cant get over how posters want to go out of their was to make these excuses if DW4's not successful. It's like setting up a default argument for DW4.
Right! Watson is the LAST person I’m worried about on this team. Our troubles start with the impulsive, jack of all trades, master of none douchebag we have for HC.He’s had a very good productive career thus far.
Because if healthy he will have the best OL he's ever had and talent at all of the skill positions that can take it to the house at any time.
Looks like you're in the excuse business. They will have time for the receivers/DW4 to get on the same page during TC.
The OL is the same unit as last season. How did they suddenly become the most talented OL Watson has ever had? If either OT goes down, who’s the depth OT that keeps this OL at a “most talented OL” level?
I haven’t checked yet but when was the last time any of the Texans skill position players played a 16 game injury free season? Skill position depth is very acceptable at WR and TE but RB is very questionable from the starters to zip for depth
Your post made the assumption that Watson would have a healthy group of skill position players for a season....therefore he would have no excuses foe what.......
Please stay on topic, this is about Watson having to win a Super Bowl even though BO’b trades away his most dependable target for a bag of peanuts.You dont like what BOB's done as GM?
Can you please stay on topic?
2020 Schedule is/was the thread topic.Please stay on topic, this is about Watson having to win a Super Bowl
Lol I see the theme will be WARTS for this season.
We may be set at OL, but I wonder if O’Brien has halted his pursuit of Warford? The only question marks are at RG, and C. If the offensive line picks up where it left off, it might not be so far fetched to think it could be a top 10 unit. Our running game should be pretty damn solid if it finally goes our way.The were coming into their own before Howard got hurt and they drafted Heck (Who needs some work but is talented.) to replace the putrid play of Clark. In short they have more depth along the OL.
They will probably pickup another Hyde type RB at the end of camp. The 49ers/Seahawks/Redskins etc... have a glut of RB's.
It’s funny how you tell other people to stay on topic when you always go off topic saying stuff like if Brees and Brady can do something then so should Watson. Yes, they “should” be able to mesh but the entire success of this team is not riding on their ability to mesh. I don’t see your point. Adjusting to a whole new running game with 2 receiving backs, other new receivers, and a new OC apparently calling the shots is also a huge factor that won’t just be “meshed” in TC, if there is one.
(Checks thread title)Please stay on topic, this is about Watson having to win a Super Bowl even though BO’b trades away his most dependable target for a bag of peanuts.
Posted this on page 4 after the thread went sideways on page 3(Checks thread title)
I thought it was about the 2020 schedule???
(Double checks the thread title)
I don't remember seeing anyone calling anyone's ideas dumb.Wow now we’re calling other members ideas dumb. There shouldn’t be allowed period.
Wow now we’re calling other members ideas dumb. There shouldn’t be allowed period.
I'm hoping they add Warford.We may be set at OL, but I wonder if O’Brien has halted his pursuit of Warford? The only question marks are at RG, and C. If the offensive line picks up where it left off, it might not be so far fetched to think it could be a top 10 unit. Our running game should be pretty damn solid if it finally goes our way.
We may be set at OL, but I wonder if O’Brien has halted his pursuit of Warford? The only question marks are at RG, and C. If the offensive line picks up where it left off, it might not be so far fetched to think it could be a top 10 unit. Our running game should be pretty damn solid if it finally goes our way.
Please stay on topic, this is about Watson having to win a Super Bowl even though BO’b trades away his most dependable target for a bag of peanuts.
Why are you so concerned?
Hopefully they spend the $$$$ on Warford. He would be a huge addition.
I think Martin will do a decent job if surrounded by guys (Scharping/Warford) that don't need alot of help.
I think Martin has been the weakest link on the OL. He's routinely tossed around like a salad. In all honesty....I would keep Fulton and make him Center and shopped Martin for whatever I could get from the former RD2 pick.
If healthy, this would be thestarting OL I'd be most hopeful of in 2020:
LT- Tunsil
LG- Scharping
OC- Fulton
RG- Warford
RT- Howard
2- veteran Pro Bowl'ers at LT and RG. This helps both Scharping and Howard. Fulton at center can cover this position solidly truly freeing up Scharping and Warford to focus on their jobs. Yeah, this OL could make a massive difference.
I get that you dont like Martin, but after the new deal he signed, he's going to be here next yr, probably 2 more yrs. I look at Martin as an avg center.
What do you mean we will find out how good he is this year? He has an entire new offense and new players and "new" OC that he has to adjust to, and that he will not have much of a chance to build a rapport with in OTAs. Why are you basing this upcoming year on how good he is vs. previous years or upcoming years?
Not saying that’s wrong but if you rebuild an entire team he needs more than ONE year to adjust to the rebuild and prove himself.
Do you think Matthew Stafford is good enough to win a Super Bowl? Talented enough?
Yes he is. Without a doubt he is.
Well technically you could say “a little luck, the right team” about any QB. Heck, Joe Flacco, Trent Dilfer, etc. have all won Super Bowls with the right team. He is definitely better than those guys. Stafford has produced consistently year after year, and while I agree he is no Manning or Brady, he is definitely more talented than just any QB who needs luck and the right team.Do I think he's capable of being the centerpiece that carries a team to a title - Absolutely Not.
Do I think he's capable of being a complimentary piece on a title winner - Yes.
Stafford is no Peyton Manning , Brees , Brady , Rodgers …. He's more Eli Manning.
With a little luck , the right team …..
It is not completely the same system and playbook. Randall Cobb is the best slot guy we have ever had, and the slot role with have a lot more impact on our playbook, and now we have two 3rd down receiving backs (unlike Hyde who was a 2 down power back), and will be incorporating a new dimension to the running game with a lot more 2 back sets and rotating 3rd down RBs. The way we used Hyde-Duke will DEFINITELY not be the same way we use David Johnson-Duke. I am not saying there will be HUGE changes, but with the added talent with more impactful roles, things are going to look different.Its still the same system / playbook … just interpreted by a new face.
I think Martin has been the weakest link on the OL. He's routinely tossed around like a salad. In all honesty....I would keep Fulton and make him Center and shop Martin for whatever I could get from the former RD2 pick.
In that line of thought, how many QB's have played the game that you would say are truly special in that they elevate all players around them ??
I think that number is small honestly and feel that "most" QB's in the league need to have everything considered in their evaluation.
But, but, he's the 3rd highest paid center in the league.
......now who made that mistake?