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2015 free agents
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Pulling an Andre Johnson...right on.
Except in this case, DeMarco is still.in his prime and was the workhorse for Dallas. Andre mailed it in most of the season, and is on the decline. I don't know why Andre signing in Indy worries anyone.
TexansFTW
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He wants to stick it to us and has a QB that can aid him in that goal.
TexansFTW
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Can some of you Bird Lawyers here help me out with something?
I apologize in advance if somewhere in this forum it's been discussed, but...
If the Eagles only "agreed to terms" with Ryan Mathews does that mean the deal is not official and the Eagles can break that deal and go full on after Murray? Meaning give him all the RB money they were going to spend as opposed to just having a situation where they have DeMarco AND Mathews?
I apologize in advance if somewhere in this forum it's been discussed, but...
If the Eagles only "agreed to terms" with Ryan Mathews does that mean the deal is not official and the Eagles can break that deal and go full on after Murray? Meaning give him all the RB money they were going to spend as opposed to just having a situation where they have DeMarco AND Mathews?
The goal is the same as before. Hit Luck and hit him hard.
The1ApplePie
Hall of Fame
Cowboys had to choose between him and Dez, it was a no-brainer to keep one of the best WRs in football over an injury-prone back. Both would have been ideal, but they made the right choice.
Cowboys have the best O-line in the game, they can plug a rookie or two back there and be fine. First round caliber RBs go in the third round of the draft these days, no reason to overpay a free agent.
This bothers me. You cant plug in any RB behind a good or great line and expect the same success. Most great RBs in history have had a great line.
TexansFTW
Veteran
I agree w/ you.
Most great RBs make their lines look awesome too. Remember how we had an incredible line during Foster's maniac years, and our O Line was incredible, then during Foster injury year in 2013 our "Pro Bowl" O Line needed a lot of work.
It's a bunch of chicken and egg stuff in my opinion, but everyone lately has determined it's without a doubt the egg.
Cowboys are gonna quickly find out, you don't plug and chug any chicken into your backfield if they lose that guy.
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Both parties can back out until signed. Bad look if Eagles do, not so bad if Mathews does it like Frank Gore did.
Am hearing that Eagles expected to be paying less for Murray/Mathews than McCoy, but can't confirm that.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
RBs not named Murray averaged 5.5 yards per carry behind that line last year. I think they'll be alright.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Literally true and yet not really. On a handful of carries on passing downs and non-crunch rushing plays Randle was 6.7 and Dunbar was 3.4.
But your average on draws on 3rd and 12 really isn't much indication of normal.
Do you blame him????
bah007
Hall of Fame
I can't believe that there are actually people on here who think that the player owes the team anything after they have already parted ways.
The Cowboys (Texans) made a business decision with Murray (Johnson). Now the player is making a business decision for themselves.
If they think the best decision for them is to sign with the Eagles (Colts) for less money but a better opportunity to win then so be it. It's not like the Raiders (Chargers) present any better opportunity unless it is for a straight cash grab.
The Cowboys (Texans) made a business decision with Murray (Johnson). Now the player is making a business decision for themselves.
If they think the best decision for them is to sign with the Eagles (Colts) for less money but a better opportunity to win then so be it. It's not like the Raiders (Chargers) present any better opportunity unless it is for a straight cash grab.
bah007
Hall of Fame
Mathews is the one backing out, not the Eagles. And the contract hasn't been signed so nothing is official.
He is in Philly right now to sign the contract. But he's not going to make a decision until Murray does.
Philly can afford both.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Not a bit. I was mocking people who think AJ is being spiteful for going to the best team he had an offer from.
Oh I'm sure all these high-minded folks would never do that to a former employer. For example if they were engineers hired out of school by Boeing to work on space craft design they'd NEVER go to SpaceX (after learning the ropes at Boeing for 8-10 yrs) just because Elon Musk offered them a higher salary and better benefits.
Naaah... that never happens in real life.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Oh I'm sure all these high-minded folks would never do that to a former employer. For example if they were engineers hired out of school by Boeing to work on space craft design they'd NEVER go to SpaceX (after learning the ropes at Boeing for 8-10 yrs) just because Elon Musk offered them a higher salary and better benefits.
Naaah... that never happens in real life.
That's why they put non-compete clauses into their contracts.
hmmmm... I've heard of non-disclosure clauses but not non-compete. I know of quite a few aerospace weenies that switched badges over the years.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
At least in my field (medical computing), it's very common to include a non-compete clause as you get higher up the food-chain. If you leave your company, you can't get hired by a competing company for a year (or whatever).
My wife's company (my wife is in the same basic field I am) hired a CIO from a competing company but because of the non-compete clause in her contract, she had to sit around for a year before she could start work.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Non-compete clauses shouldn't be taken at face value. They commonly read as much more restrictive than can actually be enforced. They are considered just shy of void as against public policy and are frequently pruned or invalidated. Doesn't stop folks from throwing them around though. Good bluffing tool.
The Pencil Neck
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For most of us, the non-compete doesn't really mean anything. We can go to other, competing companies as long as we don't work on a directly competing product where our knowledge can be used to sabotage or undermine our original company.
The one time I've heard of the non-compete being invoked (besides that CIO I mentioned) was when a salesperson left one company, went to another, and then did a tour of his old clients telling them about all the things that had been hidden from them or whatever by the old company and trying to woo them to the new company. If I remember correctly, he had copied all of his e-mails before he left and he actually pulled out less-than-flattering things people had said in private about this person or that person or this meeting or what-have-you.
Like I said, for most programmers or engineers, it's not a big deal.
The Pencil Neck
Hall of Fame
Kaiser Toro
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I am under a non solicit, which I believe has more teeth than a non compete.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Correct.
Given Mathews' injury history and Murray's recent workload, kinda does.
JCTexan
Hall of Fame
They still have Sproles & Polk. After signing Murray I don't think they should have spent another 11 million to sign a backup RB. That's 54 million they just used to sign one position. Signing one of them and then drafting a backup RB in the 3rd or 4th round seems much more logical.
Nothing Kelly has done this offseason has been logical.
I don't think Kelly is looking at Mathews as a backup RB. If I were to guess, he was planning on signing Mathews when then all of a sudden Murray popped up and he figured he could swing it to have a 1a & 1b RB combo that'll be fresh late in the year for a hopeful playoff push. Sproles will be a return man and slot/motion option while Polk will likely be cut taking 1.5M off the books with no dead money to show for it.
I'm not saying it's textbook roster development, but Chip likes to find different angles and when one presented itself he jumped, and really there's no reason to think it can't pay off.
I'd be surprised if he uses them as a traditional 1 & 2.
I remeber dreaming of all the special things we could do with Foster & Tate in the backfield at the same time. What kind of personnel group do you counter that with? & we had OD & AJ in their prime... ah, what could have been.
But Kubiak wouldn't go there. Kelly may be just crazy enough to pull it off, especially with their tempo game.
bah007
Hall of Fame
I'd disagree. He's significantly improved the talent level at several positions and the only place they are worse off is at WR.
If Bradford gets injured (highly possible) then I could understand all the hate that Chip is getting. But he's set this team up to be better next year than they were before.
And he now has lots of ammo to move up in the draft if inclined to do so... Murray and a 1st to move into top 5?
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I agree. Phillyfan was losing it there yesterday but I bet they're coming around.
Chip is interesting as heck to watch.
Unless Murray just signed a zero guaranteed deal, that's not going to happen.
If Mariota is what he's going after, then it'll be Sam Bradford, plus the Eagle's first, 2nd, & 3rd round picks. & since their fifth & next year's second is tied up in Bradford, they're really giving up their first four picks & next year's second.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Guaranteed money that hasn't been paid is no problem and just goes with the contract but odds are there was a bonus at signing so no trade.
probably not, just saying Chip has options
CloakNNNdagger
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Orakpo has signed with the Titans, secretly making them a sincere promise that he won't end up on IR again...........unless he gets injured.................
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Schaub will be cut.
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Teddy gets to deal with Wallace, now.
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Orakpo has signed with the Titans, secretly making them a sincere promise that he won't end up on IR again...........unless he gets injured.................
See there... now you're just being tacky.
funny
... but tacky