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Carr interview on 610 this morning

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wwffan99tx

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Let me start this by saying I am not a Carr hater. I have supported him his entire career with the Texans. But this morning on 610 he was asked about taking a knee with 53 seconds left in the game. He said Kubiak asked him what he thought and he responded with "It's up to you coach." Then he proceeded to ramble on that the Titans were getting a good rush all day and if he dropped back he would be on the goal line and blah, blah, blah. This pissed me off. Would VY or any other great QB have that attitude? No, they would WANT the ball and take a chance to win the game. I'm through with Carr now. He is a loser and always will be. Kubiak can't make him have heart.
 
I don't know who is to blame, but when you haven't turned the ball over all day, with 1 minute left in the 4th and an opportunity to win (I don't care where you are starting from), you at least try.

Playing with that much fear, playing not to lose, is the best way to ensure a loss.
 
If Carr said that then he's a loser....

I can understand a coach making that decision...But not my QB....
 
wwffan99tx said:
Let me start this by saying I am not a Carr hater. I have supported him his entire career with the Texans. But this morning on 610 he was asked about taking a knee with 53 seconds left in the game. He said Kubiak asked him what he thought and he responded with "It's up to you coach." Then he proceeded to ramble on that the Titans were getting a good rush all day and if he dropped back he would be on the goal line and blah, blah, blah. This pissed me off. Would VY or any other great QB have that attitude? No, they would WANT the ball and take a chance to win the game. I'm through with Carr now. He is a loser and always will be. Kubiak can't make him have heart.
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O my good lord gosh!!!

Football IQ runs strong in your family does it not, lets go 88 yards with no protection like there was all day and maybe get sacked or have a ball tipped and picked, lets throw it to Dre and trust him O wait he already dropped 2 balls that day I am sure we can trust him to come down with one, I could go on but I am sure I would just loose you...........

I am not a Carr hater but I think he is a looser? Who are you trying to fool with a comment like that.

Lets just say more bad things could have happened to you then good at that point.
 
Hulk75 said:
O my good lord gosh!!!

Football IQ runs strong in your family does it not, lets go 88 yards with no protection like there was all day and maybe get sacked or have a ball tipped and picked, lets throw it to Dre and trust him O wait he already dropped 2 balls that day I am sure we can trust him to come down with one, I could go on but I am sure I would just loose you...........

I am not a Carr hater but I think he is a looser? Who are you trying to fool with a comment like that.

Lets just say more bad things could have happened to you then good at that point.
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Since you are so intelligent, you probably already know this...... LOSE is spelled with 1 O, not 2.
 
He's a loser, and I finally see it now. I had so much hope for this guy, the face of the franchise and all that.

He's a loser who is comfortable losing
 
And what if Carr had been sacked in the end zone? Would the same folks have defended the attempt to score?

I doubt it.

They had a 1 point lead at that point and it made good sense to take the knee...IMO.
 
we need a new qb.. one whose not afraid to step up and take chances.. I can't imagine any qb not being eager to go for a win with the game tied and 50 seconds still left. I was watching the cowboys game( even though that game turned out to be the massacre of texas stadium) and even before the game turned into a rout, i remember it was 4th and 8 and Romo started signaling to Parcells he wanted to go for it. That's the attitude we need, that's the attitude of a winner and a leader. And David Carr is neither a winner or a leader.
 
Hulk75 said:
Football IQ runs strong in your family does it not, lets go 88 yards with no protection like there was all day and maybe get sacked or have a ball tipped and picked, lets throw it to Dre and trust him O wait he already dropped 2 balls that day I am sure we can trust him to come down with one, I could go on but I am sure I would just loose you...........
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I don't know of a single QB with any kind of fire in his belly that would have said no thank you to an opprotunity to drive his team to get into position to win...And I don't know about the 88 yard thing...all we needed was a field goal....

If David Carr said no thanks to that, then he didn't have faith in himself or the team...Had I been one of his offensive lineman, I would have looked at him like WTF did he just say ? I can understand Kubiak wanting to be conservative, but as a player for you to not want an opprotunity like that is pretty weak, lame, and sorry....JMO
 
I agree, i want a quarterback with a champion's mentality, Carr does not have that from what i've seen. He's a good guy and a good athlete but he just doesn't have the intangibles like a Peyton Manning or Brett Favre has.

I hope next year Sage is back and given a chance at the starting job. I've seen a few interviews w/coaches and other players that say Sage is a true leader and players gravitate toward him b/c of his competitiveness and field general-type qualities.
If not Sage, i hope we can get someone else in here like maybe a Jeff Garcia, or Jake Plummer even. Mabye even Culpepper if he's booted out of Miami since the Piano-man Mr. Harrington seems to have the controls now.
 
Silver Oak said:
And what if Carr had been sacked in the end zone? Would the same folks have defended the attempt to score?

I doubt it.

They had a 1 point lead at that point and it made good sense to take the knee...IMO.
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"No we should have went deep 3 times":tease: :tease:

Your right taking a knee was the right SMART call.
 
It would've been nice to see them go out with their guns blazing... you had to guess though that if the Titans got the ball first in overtime they had a really good chance at scoring.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
I don't know of a single QB with any kind of fire in his belly that would have said no thank you to an opprotunity to drive his team to get into position to win...And I don't know about the 88 yard thing...all we needed was a field goal....

If David Carr said no thanks to that, then he didn't have faith in himself or the team...Had I been one of his offensive lineman, I would have looked at him like WTF did he just say ? I can understand Kubiak wanting to be conservative, but as a player for you to not want an opprotunity like that is pretty weak, lame, and sorry....JMO
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And the story builds, if you would really like to know, Kubiak said at his presser yesterday after the game that it was his call, so I guess we can just argue this now.
 
Silver Oak said:
And what if Carr had been sacked in the end zone? Would the same folks have defended the attempt to score?

I doubt it.

They had a 1 point lead at that point and it made good sense to take the knee...IMO.
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The game was tied first off....

And yes.....I would have still supported the decision....

This comment makes no sense, because the only people who would have been upset afterward had he gotten sacked would have been the people that didn't want him to go for it in the first place....not the people who wanted them to try to get into field goal range to begin with...
 
Hulk75 said:
And the story builds, if you would really like to know, Kubiak said at his presser yesterday after the game that it was his call, so I guess we can just argue this now.
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Of course it was, but Carr did say basically what was quoted on his interview too.
 
This is my view on this whole thing.

Carr has most of the abilities needed to play QB, he can run, he can throw, he's in very good shape.

What he lasks, and what this radio interview somewhat acknowledges is that he is not a very good leader. For me a good leader is someone who makes a decision and acts upon it, regardless of whether or not it results in a success. A good leader is one that acts, regardless of the outcome; A bad leader is one that does not act.

To me this is Carr's flaw, he does not act, he does not make a decision. I know there are many other factors to why he has not had too much success, coaches, playcalling, offensive line, running game. But even considering all of these things, I still see a Carr afraid, unable or incapable of acting.
 
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Hulk75 said:
And the story builds, if you would really like to know, Kubiak said at his presser yesterday after the game that it was his call, so I guess we can just argue this now.
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Well If you look back at my post post, I said IF Carr said that....

and IF Carr said that he is weak minded...
 
Hulk75 said:
And the story builds, if you would really like to know, Kubiak said at his presser yesterday after the game that it was his call, so I guess we can just argue this now.
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Well its not like he's going to come out at the end of the day and say " David didn't seem too thrilled to go for it." When Kubiak asked carr what he wanted to do, 99.99% of all quarterbacks will say lets go for it, and 100% of all coaches would have redeemed that wish. But as soon as Carr says its up to you, Kubiak realized he's not 100% confident.
 
I didn't get a chance to hear that part of the interview (maybe it was when I took my kids in to school) - but interesting as quite POSSIBLY Kubiak was checking what the response would be from his QB when put in that scenario, if so - I don't think Carr passed the "pop quiz". Even to say, "coach, maybe kneel it for now and come out after the half with guns blazin" vs "it's up to you" response.

Also, not a verbatim - but Carr also mentioned that this loss sucked because he gave a little more this one to try and win... or something along those lines. It struck me odd because should he give a little more each game, not just one?
 
And some of you are surprised that the emperor has no clothes? Carr has always been garbage and will continue to be so.

Can we finally end all this and just get rid of the bum? Can we finally be done with the VY v David Carr debate? I hope so because there is no debate
 
I know what you mean. This morning when I came in to work, everyone knows I'm the biggest Texans fan in the office.

They put a brown paper bag on my desk to wear over my head. On the bag it says: "Embarrased Texans Fan".

Guys, it's time for Carr to go.
 
No one is mentioning how weak and spineless the coach that MADE the call is! He had absolutely no faith in his Oline or his running backs or the tight ends or the wide receivers. Fair is fair, yet you are whining about a QB that has been blasted all seaon and most of last for not making corrects calls. So he defers to his coach? I do not understand what the H--- you guys want from Carr. Where would he have stood with Kubes if he had argued and the ball was lost for a TD or even possession leading to a field goal?

IMO, the right call was made. Kubes thought his defense could stop the Titans in OT. The defense made the same mistake that other d's have on the last play. They blitz Young whomade made them sorry. Uh.. anyone seen that before?
 
wwffan99tx said:
Kubiak can't make him have heart.
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At one point David Carr had heart. Now, he doesn't look like he wants to be out there. Honoring Earl 34 said a while back that Carr had turned into Ralph Sampson. Sad, but I think he's right.

Last offseason wasn't enough. We need more bloodshed. It starts with David. I don't want the new QB burdened with the o-line dregs of McKinney, Wiegert, & Weary. Glenn Earl must go. Morlon Greenwood, too. Brown & Stanley...out of here.

I'm about to say something that will get me flamed. The Texans should listen to trade offers for Andre Johnson. Yeah, he's a tremendous athlete. And he puts up numbers. But, AJ has poor instincts for the game. AJ is worth more now than at any point in the future because he still has 2 years remaining on his rookie contract. If the Texans can turn Johnson into 2 or 3 good young players via the draft, they should do it. I get the feeling that Andre doesn't want to be here, anyway.
 
Lucky said:
I'm about to say something that will get me flamed. The Texans should listen to trade offers for Andre Johnson. Yeah, he's a tremendous athlete. And he puts up numbers. But, AJ has poor instincts for the game. AJ is worth more now than at any point in the future because he still has 2 years remaining on his rookie contract. If the Texans can turn Johnson into 2 or 3 good young players via the draft, they should do it. I get the feeling that Andre doesn't want to be here, anyway.
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Honestly I think I was afraid to admit this to myself....But IMO, besides his measurables, AJ is not a great reciever....He would be o.k if we didn't have his Dad on the other side of him, but we have two of the same recievers....Not much quickness out there....
 
Lucky said:
I'm about to say something that will get me flamed. The Texans should listen to trade offers for Andre Johnson. Yeah, he's a tremendous athlete. And he puts up numbers. But, AJ has poor instincts for the game. AJ is worth more now than at any point in the future because he still has 2 years remaining on his rookie contract. If the Texans can turn Johnson into 2 or 3 good young players via the draft, they should do it. I get the feeling that Andre doesn't want to be here, anyway.
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Interesting actually. I am sure that such a trade would benefit the team overall. Who knows, if we're lucky we might find our very own Colston(sp?) next draft :)
 
A4toZ said:
I didn't get a chance to hear that part of the interview (maybe it was when I took my kids in to school) - but interesting as quite POSSIBLY Kubiak was checking what the response would be from his QB when put in that scenario, if so - I don't think Carr passed the "pop quiz". Even to say, "coach, maybe kneel it for now and come out after the half with guns blazin" vs "it's up to you" response.

Also, not a verbatim - but Carr also mentioned that this loss sucked because he gave a little more this one to try and win... or something along those lines. It struck me odd because should he give a little more each game, not just one?
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Yeah... he's not the brightest bulb in the box... bahaa... He's a good QB but something isn't right... either he isn't very bright or his confidence is shot... either way the guy is broken. Comments like that make me think that it might be a little bit of both..... I think Kubes is definitely testing him now and he's failing miserably...
 
Tale Gator said:
53 seconds is an eternity to march down the field and attempt a field goal/ etc. Kubiak has zero faith in Carr.
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There was no timeouts. This was the correct call. It would have been the correct call if Elway in his prime was our QB. You are at home, you take your chances in OT. Had we been 20 or 30 yards farther up the field and/or had a single timeout, yea. But not when you are inside your own 10 and no TOs &
only 50 seconds.
And the blitz of VY was the correct call. And if you don't like that, then you're being critical of the Texans being too agressive. If the blitz is successful, then the Titans are out of FG range.
The call I didn't get was throwing down the field to Daniels on 2nd and 6, and
after the incompletion running Dayne again to try to get 6 for the first ? You
gotta pass when its 3rd and you need 6 !
 
I have supported Carr for a while now and think that he's done what not many other Qb's can do, which is good for us. And that is be tough. With as many times as he's been sacked...and hit..hard. I'm surprised he still wants to play here. maybe he doesn't think he can start anywhere else but i think he's a good qb. maybe not the right one for this team though.

With that said...he isn't getting the job done like everyone else is saying. I like the leadership qualities VY has shown and his ability to win in the nfl. I didn't expect it to come like it has. I don't want to hear all the VY homers saying we knew he would he's a winner, he gonna be the best. That's a ridiculous comment. You can see the wins he had while at UT..his record and that's impressive but the nfl is completely agree and you can't be 100% sure thats going to carry over (you can argue the same for mario though). I see that VY is the real deal after watching half a season of starts for him and I'm a beilever.

Back on point, new qb and it can't be vince like everyone wants..that's over and done with. we were never going to go to the playoffs this year (all thoughs that thought we were, were setting themselves up for this disappointment). next year we probably won't either. I see carr being here next year, maybe sage playing some, but I don't want to spend a lot of money on a new QB coming in if he's not the long term solution, we don't need a great interim guy.

I'm waiting for the then QB we draft or whoever that we groom and becomes the winner this franchise desperately needs. I don't see us drafting Brady Quinn and he won't even fall to us but I'm using him as an example. If we draft a guy in the 1st with all this hype..it's going to be unfair to him. Carr-homers will be mad. Vince-homers will be even more pissed off. Ok carr is gone but now for the rest of this guys career...or 5 years or so in houston..he's going to be looked at hard and unfairly because we passed vince and that VY would have been better. this #1 draft pick will haunt us on many levels.

That is why if we let sage play, carr, or bring in garcia or whatever that's fine with me. I'm not expecting us to do much for another 2 years and want us to build this as best we can so a great qb and step in and perform and not have to go through the hard times our o-line still sucking and all. don't be mad at me for settling for mediocrity because i don't. i'm realistic and want nothing more than to have a perrenial playoff contender franchise..just no quick fixing. Vince young can't be here anymore..........unfortunately.
 
nunusguy said:
There was no timeouts. This was the correct call. It would have been the correct call if Elway in his prime was our QB. You are at home, you take your chances in OT. Had we been 20 or 30 yards farther up the field and/or had a single timeout, yea. But not when you are inside your own 10 and no TOs &
only 50 seconds.
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You missed the point of this thread....

It's not whether or not the call was correct....

It's the fact that our quaterback was too cowardly to want the chance to go for it....

Honestly....DO you think there is a QB in the leauge that would not have wanted to go for it with 50+ seconds left in the game? With a chance to be a hero ? I can understand the coach pulling back on the reigns, but as the QB of your team, to be given the choice and to shy away from that is nothing short of cowardly....period
 
I was done with him when he took a knee. I am not a hater just want a leader, and he is not that. I am done with Carr, sorry but thats how I feel.
 
I think a change at QB would do both the Texans and David Carr a world of good. Look at Joey Harrington now that he is away from the Lions. We are better than the Lions of course. I like Carr and think he is a good QB but a change of teams is needed for him, the Texans and all of the fans.
 
By Carr saying that he didn't want to go for it tells me that he was scared...

Scared to make a mistake...scared to screw up....He didn't want that pressure on himself...He'd rather take it into overtime, and put the pressure on the rest of the team to make a play instead of wanting to put the team on his back and do something great for a chance....

Why would you not want the chance to win it right then and there, when you know that if you go into overtime it's sudden death....

DAVID CARR WOULD RATHER PUT HIS FAITH IN A COIN TOSS THAN HIMSELF....
 
Elle said:
I really disagree. David kept pace with Vince all day, got the score tied and we had a shot at victory with overtime. Backed up in our own endzone could have handed them the 6 points long before Vince got them when they won the toss. Blame whomever lost the coint toss. Maybe if we had it first, that would be our W.

If Kubiak didn't want him to take the knee, Carr would have been handed his own ass.
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David kept pace with Vince? Which game were you watching? How many passes over 10 yards did he complete the entire game? How many crucial 3rd downs did Carr pick up with his arm or legs?

Carr would have been handed his arse, that is correct. Because he is not a playmaker and makes the mistakes of a rookie after 5 season. 2 forward pass penalties in the same half? He has to be the dumbest QB in the NFL on top of everything else. What was his wonderlich score anyway?
 
regalbeagle said:
I know what you mean. This morning when I came in to work, everyone knows I'm the biggest Texans fan in the office.

They put a brown paper bag on my desk to wear over my head. On the bag it says: "Embarrased Texans Fan".

Guys, it's time for Carr to go.
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dude, that sucks. I am sorry to hear that. screw them though, that is lame to do to a co-worker after a tough loss by home team
 
Tale Gator said:
53 seconds is an eternity to march down the field and attempt a field goal/ etc. Kubiak has zero faith in Carr.
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I wonder if Carr has any faith in Carr ?:bag:


So there were 53 seconds with no time outs and 93 yards to the end-zone .... Not 88, they were on the seven not the twelve . To realisticly be in field goal range the Texans would need to have moved the ball somewhere in the nieghborhood of 58 yards . That would have given them a 52 yard field goal attempt .

I would have liked to see them take at least one shot at moving down the field and if they had an in-completion or penalty then take the knee . If the result of the first attempt is a success then you have to re-evaluate your position , maybe take two downs and if those are failed attempts then take the knee .


The easiest way to fail is not to try ....:ok:

The question of how much faith Kubiak still has in Carr was answered last Sunday in the second half against the raiders ...... how many pass attempts did he have in the fourth quarter ?
 
in his first season, Vince is already in a whole new league. They beat us twice, the colts and giants back to back( those two were like preseason super bowl predictions,) and has the nearly at .500. The guy is simply a winner. David Carr is simply not. These past two weeks have showed more then ever that we made the wrong choice in the last draft. With Young we don't see these little 2 yard shovel passes, and with Reggie Bush, the 2 yard shovel passes turn into nice 20 yard gains, so either way we would have been good to go.
 
The coach is responsible for managing the game in that situation but the quarterback has to have the competitive fire in his belly that tells him, "Give me a chance, at least one chance, to make a play down field."

While on the strategic side (the coach's side), it was more prudent to be safe with the ball, from a competitive side (the player's side) you'd like to see the player tell the coach that he at least wants a chance.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
You missed the point of this thread....
It's not whether or not the call was correct....
It's the fact that our quaterback was too cowardly to want the chance to go for it....
Honestly....DO you think there is a QB in the leauge that would not have wanted to go for it with 50+ seconds left in the game? With a chance to be a hero ? I can understand the coach pulling back on the reigns, but as the QB of your team, to be given the choice and to shy away from that is nothing short of cowardly....period
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You pick and choose your chances, you be selective.
The scenario with Carr inside his own 10, no TOs, and 50 seconds left in reg is 180 degrees from the scenario where Young would be on the Texans 39 with several minutes of OT left.
Carr didn't win it and VY did, but the situations they were in to have an opportunity to do so at the end were totally different.
But its time to let Carr go elsewhere, because as my wife says the city has rejected him. And I know even that's no easy task because of the cap
situation with him.
 
Elle said:
I really disagree. David kept pace with Vince all day, got the score tied and we had a shot at victory with overtime. Backed up in our own endzone could have handed them the 6 points long before Vince got them when they won the toss. Blame whomever lost the coint toss. Maybe if we had it first, that would be our W.

If Kubiak didn't want him to take the knee, Carr would have been handed his own ass.
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clueless homer sentiment....luckily this kind of attitude is starting to be less of the norm. Carr had his shot to win the game. Both he and Kubiak were simply happy tying the game. Then the defense steps up and stops VY and we kneel the ball with 50 seconds left? Do Kubiak and Carr know the rules for Overtime in the NFL? Do they know that they are playing against an inspired QB who would love nothing more than to rip the heart out of the organization that passed on him?

Can you imagine the Texans locker room right about now? They probably cant look at David with a straight face.....the whole organization should be embarassed and people need to be held accountable for this...namely Kubiak and Carr. Get rid of both the bums and lets start something new next year. Aggies are too insecure and have an inferiority complex towards anything Longhorn. Thus they cant make honest and objective decisions without letting stupid college allegiances enter the picture. The fact that the Texans passed on Vince Young for an underachieving and ailing DE is a complete joke. The fact that they picked up a 3 year option for that garbage named Carr is reason alone to kick Kubiak to the curb. Until they get rid of Carr it is a complete exercise in futility and self humiliation being a Texans fan.

Oh and to all the haters, Young showed a lot of class in his post-game interview. He could have thrown Carr, Kubiak, and the organization under his bus. He threw support behind Mario and also noted that the Titans are actually the team he grew up following and supporting....oh and Reliant Stadium IS VY's house...period end of story
 
nunusguy said:
You pick and choose your chances, you be selective.
The scenario with Carr inside his own 10, no TOs, and 50 seconds left in reg is 180 degrees from the scenario where Young would be on the Texans 39 with several minutes of OT left.
Carr didn't win it and VY did, but the situations they were in to have an opportunity to do so at the end were totally different.
But its time to let Carr go elsewhere, because as my wife says the city has rejected him. And I know even that's no easy task because of the cap
situation with him.
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Forget the situation....The situation doesn't matter....

The point is that someone needs to show this cowardly QB to the yellow brick road so he can see the wizard of OZ and get some courage....

HE rejected the chance to win the game and put his faith in a coin toss....

The game was in his hands at that point....He could have decided the outcome....but instead he chose to let it go to overtime and see if his defense could hold 'em....Name a starting QB in the leauge that would have rejected that opprotunity....Most QB's live for that moment, and our QB rejected it....what?!.....To me this is the most absurd thing I've ever heard....like I said....I can understand the coach making that choice...but if he asked Carr and Carr said no thanks, that tells me a lot about him as a football player at this point....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Forget the situation....The situation doesn't matter....

The point is that someone needs to show this cowardly QB to the yellow brick road so he can see the wizard of OZ and get some courage....

HE rejected the chance to win the game and put his faith in a coin toss....

The game was in his hands at that point....He could have decided the outcome....but instead he chose to let it go to overtime and see if his defense could hold 'em....Name a starting QB in the leauge that would have rejected that opprotunity....Most QB's live for that moment, and our QB rejected it....what?!.....To me this is the most absurd thing I've ever heard....like I said....I can understand the coach making that choice...but if he asked Carr and Carr said no thanks, that tells me a lot about him as a football player at this point....
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I couldn't agree more. Any QB that has a pulse is gonna fight for the chance to go for the win with 1 minute left to go.

If Carr thought that he could do it, he would be so pissed off right now that he wouldn't even talk to the press after the game.
 
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