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Listening to the coach right now. He still says Carr can take him to the promised land. Does he really believe it? Is it just window dressing? How many multiple fumble games can he take?
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Sounds like 'sound' reasoning to me.Kubiak is going to play his cards close to his chest right now. If he plans on moving Carr, he wouldn't openly admit it now for a variety of reasons. He wouldn't want an open controversy in his locker room, and he wouldn't want to undermine his GM's ability to trade Carr in the off-season.
I wouldn't fret over too much that Kubiak says right now. Carr could very well be back next year, but I think it's a situation that could go either way at this point.
Kubiak is going to play his cards close to his chest right now. If he plans on moving Carr, he wouldn't openly admit it now for a variety of reasons. He wouldn't want an open controversy in his locker room, and he wouldn't want to undermine his GM's ability to trade Carr in the off-season.
I wouldn't fret over too much that Kubiak says right now. Carr could very well be back next year, but I think it's a situation that could go either way at this point.
Funny! The vision of Jack Nicholson from 'One flew over the cuckoo's nest' popped into my head from this post.Are they drugging Kubiak??????
Kubiak is going to play his cards close to his chest right now. If he plans on moving Carr, he wouldn't openly admit it now for a variety of reasons. He wouldn't want an open controversy in his locker room, and he wouldn't want to undermine his GM's ability to trade Carr in the off-season.
I wouldn't fret over too much that Kubiak says right now. Carr could very well be back next year, but I think it's a situation that could go either way at this point.
I really think Carr will be here next year. You have to understand the question that was posed to Kubiak. Can we win a Super Bowl with David Carr? Kubiak wasn't asked if Carr could be the superstar or leader of a SB team. My understanding of the question was more along the lines of, if this team has all the other pieces in place, can we win with Carr. To me, that's just asking if car can just be a ''bus driver'' and not lose us games. Dilfer did it, and you could argue that Roethlisberger did it. You don't have to be a great QB to be a SB QB, and I think that was the answer Bob McNair was looking for. Can Carr do that? I think so, it's not too much to ask.
I agree totally, but want to add a little bit.Kubiak is going to play his cards close to his chest right now. If he plans on moving Carr, he wouldn't openly admit it now for a variety of reasons. He wouldn't want an open controversy in his locker room, and he wouldn't want to undermine his GM's ability to trade Carr in the off-season.
I wouldn't fret over too much that Kubiak says right now. Carr could very well be back next year, but I think it's a situation that could go either way at this point.
If we continue to be as incompetant as we are right now, you might as well rename us the Browns.
Listening to the coach right now. He still says Carr can take him to the promised land. Does he really believe it? Is it just window dressing? How many multiple fumble games can he take?
NFL.com said:Most Fumbles, Career
161 Warren Moon, Houston, 1984-1993; Minnesota, 1994-96; Seattle, 1997-98; Kansas City, 1999-2000
790 had a snippet, I'm guessing from Kubiak's press conference, that said "this game (Titans) is a big game for David, all remaining 4 games are a big game for David".
790 also mentioned there was a closed door discussion with Kubiak and Carr.
Take that for what it's worth. Also, they had another point a caller made this morning that had an interesting point of view - that if Palmer was so bad with Carr here, then why is he succeeding with Romo in Dallas. The 790 guys mentioned it's the player that makes the coach, that players play. Also they questioned is Carr coachable? Why bother to untrain the bad habits when it's easy to regress back into them. Why not go find another that never had the bad habits to begin with?
I'm still in the camp of "Kubiak will do what's right for the team" so whatever comes of that. Funny thing is, quite a ways back Vinny was starting to see the shortcomings of Carr's QB style and quite a few posters back in the day disagreed. Seems times are changin'.
I've said since before Palmer was even fired that he was a scapegoat. That being said (many times), Dallas has a better O-line and Palmer's play-calling was constantly stifled by Capers (and the O-line). I know Dallas has won more with Romo than the other guy, but they've always had a better O-line than us.
I really think Carr will be here next year. You have to understand the question that was posed to Kubiak. Can we win a Super Bowl with David Carr? Kubiak wasn't asked if Carr could be the superstar or leader of a SB team. My understanding of the question was more along the lines of, if this team has all the other pieces in place, can we win with Carr. To me, that's just asking if car can just be a ''bus driver'' and not lose us games. Dilfer did it, and you could argue that Roethlisberger did it. You don't have to be a great QB to be a SB QB, and I think that was the answer Bob McNair was looking for. Can Carr do that? I think so, it's not too much to ask.
I wonder if kubiak is willing to loose he's job over david carr
I've said since before Palmer was even fired that he was a scapegoat. That being said (many times), Dallas has a better O-line and Palmer's play-calling was constantly stifled by Capers (and the O-line). I know Dallas has won more with Romo than the other guy, but they've always had a better O-line than us.
Their offensive line is no better or worse than ours. Before they made the change they were giving up sacks left and right and Bledsoe would never have time to throw. Kinda suspicious that once they made a change there were no more sacks. Some of the less knowledgeable fans (homers) dont realize that the OL isnt responsible for every sack. Sometimes poor reading of coverage, slow delivery of the ball, and a QB not finding a passing lane are what cause sacks. The OLine excuse is really old and holds little to no water.
doug
AM someone smart enough to know that our offensive line has long been the achilles heel of this franchise and until we fix that, we are bound to struggle to find consistency in anything we do.
Their offensive line is no better or worse than ours. Before they made the change they were giving up sacks left and right and Bledsoe would never have time to throw. Kinda suspicious that once they made a change there were no more sacks. Some of the less knowledgeable fans (homers) dont realize that the OL isnt responsible for every sack. Sometimes poor reading of coverage, slow delivery of the ball, and a QB not finding a passing lane are what cause sacks. The OLine excuse is really old and holds little to no water.
doug
In the Raiders game Carr took a three step drop and was dropped on more than one occassion.
Their offensive line is no better or worse than ours. Before they made the change they were giving up sacks left and right and Bledsoe would never have time to throw. Kinda suspicious that once they made a change there were no more sacks. Some of the less knowledgeable fans (homers) dont realize that the OL isnt responsible for every sack. Sometimes poor reading of coverage, slow delivery of the ball, and a QB not finding a passing lane are what cause sacks. The OLine excuse is really old and holds little to no water.
doug
The Dallas O line has given up 25 sacks this season, Bledsoe was sacked 16 times and Romo has been sacked 9 times, so the whole "no more sacks" thing doesn't stick. Dallas also has 3 former pro bowl linemen starting on the offensive line. Dallas has two backs with over 500 yards this season, our leading rusher has 448 yards rushing. And no, this post is not an excuse for Carr, but to say our offensive line is on the same level as the Cowboys line is kind of out there, they have a much better offensive line.
If Carr is getting dropped on 3 step drops, most likely it's his fault....
I don't 100% agree with honeymoon, but I do believe that when totally healthy our line is pretty good...JMO
Did you forget the sarcasm tags? Or are you honestly saying if Carr cannot take a 3 step drop before he gets hit it's his fault? Do you know how long it takes to make a three step drop?
Did you forget the sarcasm tags? Or are you honestly saying if Carr cannot take a 3 step drop before he gets hit it's his fault? Do you know how long it takes to make a three step drop?
But to say our offensive line equals the Cowboy's offensive line is absurd.
Don't put words in my mouth...
If Carr is being hit BEFORE he takes his drop then of course it's on the line...That means they are just letting them in like....OLE!!!
I said that most likely if Carr is getting sacked on three step drops it's his fault....Three step drops are supposed to be fairly quick decisive throws...
He doesn't have time to pump fake...Go through progressions...shuffle his feet....Stutter and stumble around....
Unless Carr is getting immediate in his face pressure on the three step drops, most likely it's his fault....
He'll get sacked for sure taking a 5-7 step drop with our present Oline.
As an O-Lineman...If my man is the guy who jumps up to bat a ball down Im taking tha blame for that...
The QB needs to be taking blame for it as well....
Yes that is absurd...
But it's also absurd to look at our line healthy and say the suck...
I don't think we have a dominant line, But I do believe that if healthy and with a QB with pocket presence, the OL isn't an issue....
If I hear we're "making progress" one more time....!!!!
When they were healthy Carr played much better, averaging ~220 yards and 2 tds/game. As the line has lost starters Carr has gotten worse. See the link?
Bad o-line play translates directly into bad QB play. Simple.
Also, they had another point a caller made this morning that had an interesting point of view - that if Palmer was so bad with Carr here, then why is he succeeding with Romo in Dallas. The 790 guys mentioned it's the player that makes the coach, that players play. Also they questioned is Carr coachable? Why bother to untrain the bad habits when it's easy to regress back into them. Why not go find another that never had the bad habits to begin with?
When they were healthy Carr played much better, averaging ~220 yards and 2 tds/game. As the line has lost starters Carr has gotten worse. See the link?
Bad o-line play translates directly into bad QB play. Simple.
The Dallas O line has given up 25 sacks this season, Bledsoe was sacked 16 times and Romo has been sacked 9 times, so the whole "no more sacks" thing doesn't stick. Dallas also has 3 former pro bowl linemen starting on the offensive line. Dallas has two backs with over 500 yards this season, our leading rusher has 448 yards rushing. And no, this post is not an excuse for Carr, but to say our offensive line is on the same level as the Cowboys line is kind of out there, they have a much better offensive line.
Bledsoe played in 5.5 games, and was sacked 16 times. had he played in 12 games that would work out to be 36 sacks.
Romo has been sacked 9 times, in 6.5 games. had he played 12 games, that would work out to be 16 sacks.
Carr has been sacked 34 times in 11.5 games. had he played in 12 games, that would work out to be 36.......
The Cowboys line is about as bad as ours in pass protection.
you've got to be the biggest David Carr homer not to see that.
I see a 95% chance Carr is the QB next year, BUT That is just what I think.
When they were healthy Carr played much better, averaging ~220 yards and 2 tds/game. As the line has lost starters Carr has gotten worse. See the link?
Bad o-line play translates directly into bad QB play. Simple.