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Landry or Meriweather

BuffSoldier

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I know that LaRon Landry is supposedly the best safety available in the upcoming draft, but I cant stop thinking that it would be a smarter decision to take Meriweather. I can say this for a few reasons.

Recently The U has been churning out great prospects at two positions, the first being TE with Shockey, Winslow, and now Olsen and also at safety with Reed, then Taylor, and now Meriweather.

Another reason is because of how much Meriweather reminds me of Reed. Both seem a bit undersized. Meriweather is 6'0"-195 and Reed is 5'11"-200, but they both play so much bigger. Their size and speed make them a great coverage safety, but Meriweather won Miami's "Hard Hitter" Award last year, so it obviouse that he can also bring the hat.

All that being said, I wouldnt be upset with either one, especially since I dont have any measurables outside of their build and how they have played thus far, and as you always know, the combine/pro-day always plays a big part in who the top rated players are.
 
Im not a big Landry fan....Granted I've only seen him play once...

But I am big on Merri and Griffin.....I think that one of them might fall lto the second round....I was all for picking a Safety with our first round pick, but I think that one of the top three will fall to the second.....
 
What difference does it make. We need a RB with our first pick, period...

And even Coach Kubes knows it too... See his chronic report...
 
Landry, Meriweather isnt even the best safety prospect on his own team right now. Landry is a BALANCED FS which is what we need more than anything. He's a sure tackler and plays well against the pass. I just feel its the safer bet.
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
Im not a big Landry fan....Granted I've only seen him play once...

But I am big on Merri and Griffin.....I think that one of them might fall lto the second round....I was all for picking a Safety with our first round pick, but I think that one of the top three will fall to the second.....
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Once out of his entire 4 year career? You do know that he's started since his freshman year, when LSU won the national title.
 
Titan "Tack" Fan;465407 said:
Once out of his entire 4 year career? You do know that he's started since his freshman year, when LSU won the national title.
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yeah I know....But I didn't know who he was back then....This past weekend was the first time I actually 'watched' him....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
yeah I know....But I didn't know who he was back then....This past weekend was the first time I actually 'watched' him....
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You need to watch him play more often, its extremely difficult to get a good read on a player only seeing him once.
 
i've followed meriweather his whole career. honestly he's never done anything that really stands out. good tackler...around the ball.....but nothing spectacular. ed reed was spectacular. sean taylor was RIDICULOUSLY spectacular.

meriweather is only the THIRD best safety on this canes roster.
 
Interesting topic but all that is being thrown around is subjective judgements. Anyone have any numbers or quotes from scouts to back their stance?
 
War Is Greed said:
Interesting topic but all that is being thrown around is subjective judgements. Anyone have any numbers or quotes from scouts to back their stance?
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As you can see, Landry is just a playmaker. Nothing against Meriweather Im just more impressed with Landry's body of work. In 2003 and 2004, as a freshman and sophmore Landry lead the team in tackles. He's just been consistent his entire college career and that's something our defensive secondary could use. We need a FS that Dunta and [insert CB #2's name here] desprately need so they can have trust in who's behind them. To put it simply, Landry's game is solid.

On a side note, not sure on the true totals on Meriweather because I could see if he had sacks or anything else. LSU's football site had stats all thru Landry's career, Meriweather only had this years and I had to use draft countdown which only showed those 3 catagories you see (tackles, PBUs, INTs).

LARON LANDRY, 6'2" 202
2003 - 80 tackles, 4 PBUs, 2 INTs, 3 sacks, 1 Blocked Kick
2004 - 92 tackles, 6 PBUs, 4 INTs, 3 sacks, 1 FF
2005 - 69 tackles, 8 PBUs, 3 INTs
2006 - 30 tackles, 1 PBU, 1 INT, 1 Blocked Kick


BRANDON MERIWEATHER, 6'0" 195
2002 - 3 tackles
2003 - 22 tackles, 5 PBUs, 1 INT
2004 - 62 tackles, 5 PBUs, 2 INTs
2005 - 115 tackles, 7 PBUs, 3 INTs
2006 - 23 tackles, 3 PBUs, 1 INT, 1 sack
 
BuffSoldier said:
I know that LaRon Landry is supposedly the best safety available in the upcoming draft, but I cant stop thinking that it would be a smarter decision to take Meriweather. I can say this for a few reasons.

Recently The U has been churning out great prospects at two positions, the first being TE with Shockey, Winslow, and now Olsen and also at safety with Reed, then Taylor, and now Meriweather.

Another reason is because of how much Meriweather reminds me of Reed. Both seem a bit undersized. Meriweather is 6'0"-195 and Reed is 5'11"-200, but they both play so much bigger. Their size and speed make them a great coverage safety, but Meriweather won Miami's "Hard Hitter" Award last year, so it obviouse that he can also bring the hat.

All that being said, I wouldnt be upset with either one, especially since I dont have any measurables outside of their build and how they have played thus far, and as you always know, the combine/pro-day always plays a big part in who the top rated players are.
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Don't forget Bubba Franks came before Shockey. And can you honestly say Taylor has lived up to his hype?

I'd take Landry.
 
LSU plays are welled coached, and miami :confused: lets just says they got a bit of a problem :hides:

im not sayin merriweather will be a menace, cause look at Andre Johnson, but lately theres nothin but trouble

so landry over merriweather
 
Ey isn't Griffin also a FS. I think he's playing better than Meriweather right now and would also make a great addition to the Texans.
 
LORK 88 said:
LARON LANDRY, 6'2" 202
2003 - 80 tackles, 4 PBUs, 2 INTs, 3 sacks, 1 Blocked Kick
2004 - 92 tackles, 6 PBUs, 4 INTs, 3 sacks, 1 FF
2005 - 69 tackles, 8 PBUs, 3 INTs
2006 - 30 tackles, 1 PBU, 1 INT, 1 Blocked Kick


BRANDON MERIWEATHER, 6'0" 195
2002 - 3 tackles
2003 - 22 tackles, 5 PBUs, 1 INT
2004 - 62 tackles, 5 PBUs, 2 INTs
2005 - 115 tackles, 7 PBUs, 3 INTs
2006 - 23 tackles, 3 PBUs, 1 INT, 1 sack
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This is my pick:

MICHAEL GRIFFIN, 6'0" 205
2003 - 65 tackles, 2 PBU, 3 FF, 1 FR
2004 - 49 tackles, 4 PBU, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1 INT, 2 Blocked Kicks
2005 - 124 tackles, 11 PBU, 1 FF, 3 FR, 3 INT, 4 Blocked Kicks
2006 - 56 tackles, 4 PBU, 1 FF, 2 FR, 1 INT, 1 Blocked Kicks

BTW, I'm not sure of the others, but Griffin had only started ONE game until 2005...where he started every game. He played in 12 games in 2003 and 2004, but he was the primary backup
 
AustinJB said:
This is my pick:

MICHAEL GRIFFIN, 6'0" 205
2003 - 65 tackles, 2 PBU, 3 FF, 1 FR
2004 - 49 tackles, 4 PBU, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1 INT, 2 Blocked Kicks
2005 - 124 tackles, 11 PBU, 1 FF, 3 FR, 3 INT, 4 Blocked Kicks
2006 - 56 tackles, 4 PBU, 1 FF, 2 FR, 1 INT, 1 Blocked Kicks

BTW, I'm not sure of the others, but Griffin had only started ONE game until 2005...where he started every game. He played in 12 games in 2003 and 2004, but he was the primary backup
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I like Griffin too...
 
I want Landry...even though we need a corner even worse. I would be satisfied with merriwether if we traded out of the top 15 however.
 
I am at every UT game (student) and I have to say. Griffin is a monster hitter. Our entire secondary is. I would be happy picking up ANY Gene Chizik coached player. He is really teaching our players to talk with their pads and leave some paint on the opponents helmets. Watch more Texas games, and you'll agree with me. Tarrell Brown too, wish we had him vs OSU. If we hadn't given up that TD to Ginn before the half and went into halftime tied 7-7... it could have gone either way.
 
Landry of course. Meriweather just got suspended. Im not sold on griffin. Like someone said Landry has been consisent all his career. Landry's has awesome instincts he flies to the ball and hits like a wrecking ball.
 
AustinJB said:
This is my pick:

MICHAEL GRIFFIN, 6'0" 205
2003 - 65 tackles, 2 PBU, 3 FF, 1 FR
2004 - 49 tackles, 4 PBU, 1 FF, 1 FR, 1 INT, 2 Blocked Kicks
2005 - 124 tackles, 11 PBU, 1 FF, 3 FR, 3 INT, 4 Blocked Kicks
2006 - 56 tackles, 4 PBU, 1 FF, 2 FR, 1 INT, 1 Blocked Kicks

BTW, I'm not sure of the others, but Griffin had only started ONE game until 2005...where he started every game. He played in 12 games in 2003 and 2004, but he was the primary backup
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Where did you get those stats?
 
Merriweather will not be in a Texans uni......I guess it should be Griffin or Landry....
 
if peterson comes out he will be in a texans uni, oakland will have the first pick and take troy smith or brady quinn

we will have 2nd or 3rd i think
 
I find it hard to believe the texans would use the #2 or #3 pick in the first round on a running back that has been injured and missed half his junior year because of a broken bone. Don't get me wrong..I like AP a lot but I see him going later in the first because of this weekend. I'm starting to be more in favor of trading down but since this is a Landry or Merriweather thread...I think its clear Merriweather will not be in Houston unless he's cleaning tables.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I find it hard to believe the texans would use the #2 or #3 pick in the first round on a running back that has been injured and missed half his junior year because of a broken bone. Don't get me wrong..I like AP a lot but I see him going later in the first because of this weekend. I'm starting to be more in favor of trading down but since this is a Landry or Merriweather thread...I think its clear Merriweather will not be in Houston unless he's cleaning tables.
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A broken collarbone should have no bearing on his draft status (AP's), now the ankle issue from his Soph year could be an issue, but it should be pretty obvious that he had recovered well from that. AP does not make it out of the top 7 picks in this year's draft (if he declares)
 
Well unless landry or merriweather fall apart dramatically. Neither will be around when we pick in the 2nd round. Griffin is probably our best shot.

We'll be picking too HIGH in the first to justify picking them. At the rate we're going we'll be a top 3 or 5 pick.

I like all 3 of them and quite frankly ANY of them will be an uprgrade.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I find it hard to believe the texans would use the #2 or #3 pick in the first round on a running back that has been injured and missed half his junior year because of a broken bone. Don't get me wrong..I like AP a lot but I see him going later in the first because of this weekend. I'm starting to be more in favor of trading down but since this is a Landry or Merriweather thread...I think its clear Merriweather will not be in Houston unless he's cleaning tables.
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Willis McGahee had a knee injury much more serious than AP's injury and still went in the middle of the first round. AP's injury wont hurt his stock much if at all.
 
Bubbajwp said:
Willis McGahee had a knee injury much more serious than AP's injury and still went in the middle of the first round. AP's injury wont hurt his stock much if at all.
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McGahee also played until the 4th quarter of his bowl game and wasn't showing off when he was hurt.

Peterson is a very upright runner, a little too much for my liking. I'm trying to follow Wolfe closely. I think he might be a good late round pick up for us. I also wish Slaton was a Jr.

Back to the topic question. I would take Landry over Merriwether mostly because of physical abilities and lack of a piss-poor attitude on the field. I don't like Griffin, and I know I'll get neg. rep for that, but I just don't like his style. However, not a single one of them is worth a top 10 pick and I don't think Griffin is worth a high second round pick either. I'm hoping for a good, young FA FS.
 
YoungTexanFan said:
The dive into the endzone was.
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It wasn't a celebratory dive...

There were defenders grabbing at his ankles...looked like he was just trying to get in the end-zone...

I can already tell....that you don't like peterson....
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
It wasn't a celebratory dive...

There were defenders grabbing at his ankles...looked like he was just trying to get in the end-zone...

I can already tell....that you don't like peterson....
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I do like him, and I have liked him since his days at Palestine High, but I don't care for how upright he runs and I don't care for his injuries.
 
Landry is the total package.............his only chink is ball skills..............but he can do it all. Merriweather is soft in the box.............and STaylor has regressed instead of gotten better.............Ed Reed has been close to invisible this yr................I think injuries have slowed both of their aggressive behavior.
 
Bongo59 said:
Landry is the total package.............his only chink is ball skills..............but he can do it all. Merriweather is soft in the box.............and STaylor has regressed instead of gotten better.............Ed Reed has been close to invisible this yr................I think injuries have slowed both of their aggressive behavior.
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We need a FS who's strongest point is ball hawking ability. That is not Landry's strongest suit or honestly even something he is good at. He can make the play after the ball is caught though...but we have those guys now.
 
Why would the Texans consider getting a guy like Meriweather after his disgusting display in the big brawl? This is guy who was clearly attempting to injure other players by stomping on their legs and heads.

Who is next for the Texans, Albert Haynesworth?
 
ATX_Texan said:
Why would the Texans consider getting a guy like Meriweather after his disgusting display in the big brawl? This is guy who was clearly attempting to injure other players by stomping on their legs and heads.

Who is next for the Texans, Albert Haynesworth?
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You do realize this thread was made before the incident........right???
 
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