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Adrian Peterson

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Perhaps the Texans passed on Reggie Bush knowing that Peterson would be available in next years draft. Peterson is a bigger and more durable back than Bush and should be able to carry the rock 15 to 20 times per game. Bush, on the other hand, is more of a pass receiver than a running back. Bush is looking more like Eric Metcalf every passing day.
 
Im not a big fan of Peterson with the Texans. In this day and age running backs have short careers. They take a lot of pounding and break down after only a few years. Peterson is in his third year of being a feature back at Oklahoma. He will have a lot of mileage on him once he comes to the nfl. I don't see him producing for too long in the nfl. Plus he has already had injury problems in college.
 
Im not a big fan of Peterson with the Texans. In this day and age running backs have short careers. They take a lot of pounding and break down after only a few years. Peterson is in his third year of being a feature back at Oklahoma. He will have a lot of mileage on him once he comes to the nfl. I don't see him producing for too long in the nfl. Plus he has already had injury problems in college.

You obviously haven't watched him play or Ok. play.

He does not play a lot when the game is out of hand. He also has recorded recently a 4.3 40, and jumping onto a 36in. high box while holding a 45lb weight in each hand. Simply put, he is an athletic freak who's body is not "breaking down". He had an injury last year, he's over it. He is going to be good in the NFL. Not many rookie RB's have the ability to truely run over you or around you. He does.
 
The injury bug from last year was a high ankle sprain which he kept trying to play through. At least he's willing to try to play versus a RB who won't play till he feels 100%...after being told his knee will never feel the way it once did
 
I like AP but, #1 i don't think that we will be high enough to get him in the draft, #2 I do worry about the "tread on the tires" so to speak b/c he does take a pounding & #3 do you think that our coach would take him that high considering their position on drafting RB's?
 
You obviously haven't watched him play or Ok. play.

He does not play a lot when the game is out of hand. He also has recorded recently a 4.3 40, and jumping onto a 36in. high box while holding a 45lb weight in each hand. Simply put, he is an athletic freak who's body is not "breaking down". He had an injury last year, he's over it. He is going to be good in the NFL. Not many rookie RB's have the ability to truely run over you or around you. He does.

Im not saying he is breaking down now. I am saying he will break down early in his NFL career. D.D. didn't break down in college, but he sure is breaking down now. The more wear and tear on the players body the more it will affect him later down the road. I wouldn't like drafting a player with a top 3 pick (although i don't think we will have a pick that high) that has the wear and tear that Adrian does. He already had a significant shoulder injury his freshman year to go along with the ankle sprain from last year. Now he is in BIG 12 play. Even though it's not what it was 5 years ago, the teams still hate each other. He will have a target on his back for the rest of the season. I would put my money on the fact that he will have another injury this season that slows him down.
 
peterson isn't a 4.3 guy, so don't even bother with that stat.

also, marshawn lynch is a better back.
 
peterson isn't a 4.3 guy, so don't even bother with that stat.

also, marshawn lynch is a better back.

AP finished second in the State in the 100m behind Ivory Williams with a 10.33 in 2003, so he has the speed. I wouldn't be suprised if he ran a high 4.3 but a low 4.4 is probably more realistic.
 
Where's the proof he's more durable than Bush? He's missed more games in college the past two seasons than Bush did in 3.

I'm not sold on him having 4.3 speed but I'm definitely sold on it not mattering. The DLs and LBs that will be chasing him aren't running 4.3s so why does he need to?

Or is everybody falling back on the two misconceptions of:

1. Bigger = more durable
2. 4.3 forty = great player

BTW, Laurence Maroney ran between a 4.47 and 4.49 forty at his pro day. WHEW, good thing the Texans didn't have an opportunity to draft that bust!!! :rolleyes:
 
AP could be great. Look at his clips. He does everything a RB should do. Bush had the speed. Ap has speed and power.
 
Where's the proof he's more durable than Bush? He's missed more games in college the past two seasons than Bush did in 3.

I'm not sold on him having 4.3 speed but I'm definitely sold on it not mattering. The DLs and LBs that will be chasing him aren't running 4.3s so why does he need to?

Or is everybody falling back on the two misconceptions of:

1. Bigger = more durable
2. 4.3 forty = great player

BTW, Laurence Maroney ran between a 4.47 and 4.49 forty at his pro day. WHEW, good thing the Texans didn't have an opportunity to draft that bust!!! :rolleyes:
runningback is probably the position player where speed matters the least. quick decision-making and reflexes are the most important. obviously you don't want a 4.9 guy out there, but a 4.3 guy or a 4.6 guy....whatever. as long as they know what to do.
 
Im not a big fan of Peterson with the Texans. In this day and age running backs have short careers. They take a lot of pounding and break down after only a few years. Peterson is in his third year of being a feature back at Oklahoma. He will have a lot of mileage on him once he comes to the nfl. I don't see him producing for too long in the nfl. Plus he has already had injury problems in college.

That's just wrong. I don't get how you could even say this. Records are made by someone all the time and they are made to be broken. Because someone has a great college career, doesn't mean they have been rode hard and put up wet. That is like saying a QB that has record stats won't last long in the NFL because his arm will soon be tired from throwing so many passes in college. These are young kids who are athletic and have a God given talent. We do not pass on the chance to get someone with that gift...
 
Agreed.. I mean if that was the case why would Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne be still in the NFL... and heck..Tony Hollings (injury and all) ..well will leave that alone.
 
Agreed.. I mean if that was the case why would Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne be still in the NFL... and heck..Tony Hollings (injury and all) ..well will leave that alone.

funny thing about Ricky, he never so much had an ingrown toe-nail at UT. Come to the NFL, and his first three seasons are injury ridden...... prompting the 1st round selection of one DueceMcCallister.... who also all of a sudden has become injury plagued. I wonder if they figured out why they can't keep people behind their offensive line healthy.

I wonder why we can't keep anyone healthy behind our OLine.
 
Where's the proof he's more durable than Bush? He's missed more games in college the past two seasons than Bush did in 3.
I'm not sold on him having 4.3 speed but I'm definitely sold on it not mattering. The DLs and LBs that will be chasing him aren't running 4.3s so why does he need to?
Or is everybody falling back on the two misconceptions of:
1. Bigger = more durable
2. 4.3 forty = great player
BTW, Laurence Maroney ran between a 4.47 and 4.49 forty at his pro day. WHEW, good thing the Texans didn't have an opportunity to draft that bust!!! :rolleyes:
Bush, the SoCal girley-boy, couldn't run thru wrist tackles in 2 trys inside the
5 at NOLA in the big game vs Hotlanta to get a TD. Now I understand why
LenDale White was in the game and not Bush in that big play against the 'Horns in the Rose Bowl.
AD has missed a lot of games, but he takes a lot of abuse when he runs because he runs hard, somewhat remininsent of the "Tyler Rose".
Maroney is the man this year, a tremendous back who can run hard inside or
with speed and shiftiness off tackle. And I think he can also catch the ball.
He's doing in the NFL this year what Reggie Bush and his ESPN entourage had hoped Bush would do.
 
funny thing about Ricky, he never so much had an ingrown toe-nail at UT. Come to the NFL, and his first three seasons are injury ridden...... prompting the 1st round selection of one DueceMcCallister.... who also all of a sudden has become injury plagued. I wonder if they figured out why they can't keep people behind their offensive line healthy.

I wonder why we can't keep anyone healthy behind our OLine.

ricky or Cedric Benson?
 
I do not believe durability will be an issue with Peterson in the NFL.

I've also never heard of a team avoiding a RB in the NFL draft because he got too many carries in college. DeAngelo Williams got a billion carries in college, never got injured, and that HELPED his stock. It showed he was durable and a workhorse.

What Peterson does is made more impressive when you remember that most teams stack the box against him on nearly every play, and yet he still has plenty of big games.

I would not mind drafting Peterson. There's a reason guys like him go in the first round, and guys like Wali Lundy go in the sixth round. I know things almost worked out with Dom Davis, but now I think people tend to believe it's easy to get a starting RB late in the draft. It's not. And we're not going to be a good team until we get a running game.

Although we need a lot of other things, too. O-line, safety (coughLaRon Landrycough)...
 
I know things almost worked out with Dom Davis, but now I think people tend to believe it's easy to get a starting RB late in the draft. It's not.

I wouldn't say easy, but certainly it happens with enough frequency outside of a top 10 pick to consider the cap ramifications of taking a RB that high:

Frank Gore-3rd
Tatum Bell-2nd
Julius Jones-2nd
Michael Turner-5th
Chris Brown-3rd
Clinton Portis-2nd
Brian Westbrook-3rd
Chester Taylor-6th
Lamont Jordan-2nd
Travis Henry-2nd
Rudi Johnson-4th
Maurice Drew-2nd
Jerious Norwood-3rd
 
What if Gado rushes for 1200 yards this season?? & Dayne gets 1200??
And Lundy gets 700??
Do you think we'd be interested in Adrian Peterson??
 
And IF a frog had wings...

The point is, these guys are not going to rush for 1200 yds, so yes, we have to go for AP, period...

They are both perfectly capable of rushing for 1200 yds..... The Texans have not played their best Rushing game yet.
 
That's just wrong. I don't get how you could even say this. Records are made by someone all the time and they are made to be broken. Because someone has a great college career, doesn't mean they have been rode hard and put up wet. That is like saying a QB that has record stats won't last long in the NFL because his arm will soon be tired from throwing so many passes in college. These are young kids who are athletic and have a God given talent. We do not pass on the chance to get someone with that gift...

First of all a comparison between a qb and a rb as far as wear and tear is concerned is a completely different story. RB's take numerous hits, pretty much every down. With the rules now, a qb doesn't get hit all that hard (unless you are Trent Green). I never said Peterson will be worn out because he is having a good college career so stop putting words in my mouth. The fact is Peterson is averaging 29.25 carries per game this season. He had 339 carries in his freshman season which is just shy of 30 per start and he had 220 last season only because he was injured. He can't do this in the nfl without missing a few weeks each season. He won't be playing Baylor in the nfl. He will be getting hit harder and harder every time he touches the ball. Im not saying he wont have a few good seasons in the nfl. Im saying i wouldn't want the Texans to draft him because he will not be able to be a franchise player for the next 10 or so seasons.
 
If we get a shot at drafting Adrian Peterson and we do not take it, then I would question the decisions of the FO. This past draft I was not sold on Bush. Looking at AP run, he makes RB look silly IMO. Alot of his (AP) runs are up the middle as well. Just wish he would have gone to UT instead though.
 
What if Gado rushes for 1200 yards this season?? & Dayne gets 1200??
And Lundy gets 700??
Do you think we'd be interested in Adrian Peterson??

I'd be happy with a 100 yard rusher first. I don't think there's any chance either of them runs for 1200 and no chance of Lundy running for 700. I'll be happy if all 3 of them combined run for 1000 yards. We don't have a very good running attack and this game of musical running backs that we had to open the season probably didn't help much. I think we'll be in the running for a back next season whether it's via the draft or free agency.
 
He had a nice Kickoff return (not a TD) but was all the way to theTexas 40 (give or take some yards)
 
Kr return was 59 yards

he did fumble earlier.

He has a TD now

He showed a reason I like him.. earlier in the game a UT player didn't wrap up and Peterson churned forward for a couple of yards
 
don't think we will draft adrian, hes a great RB, but DD will be back next season, and kubiak will get us a great RB, late in the first day of the draft, DB, or O-line is what we need

what about tarrel Brown, i know he had some problems early in the year, but hes a good CB that we could get mid-rounds
 
I dont think you take AP even if you have the chance. We need more help on defense first, then the offensive line, and then maybe running back.

But I wouldnt mind being able to buy a #28 Adrian Peterson Texans Jersey.
 
I'd be happy with a 100 yard rusher first. I don't think there's any chance either of them runs for 1200 and no chance of Lundy running for 700. I'll be happy if all 3 of them combined run for 1000 yards. We don't have a very good running attack and this game of musical running backs that we had to open the season probably didn't help much. I think we'll be in the running for a back next season whether it's via the draft or free agency.

Then just wait. I gaurantee you we'll finish the season with close to 3000 rushing yards. & Lundy will definitely have 700 yards.
 
I dont think you take AP even if you have the chance. We need more help on defense first, then the offensive line, and then maybe running back.

But I wouldnt mind being able to buy a #28 Adrian Peterson Texans Jersey.

Y'all have said that for 4 years now and look where we are..

Please, give me a break...
 
First of all a comparison between a qb and a rb as far as wear and tear is concerned is a completely different story. RB's take numerous hits, pretty much every down. With the rules now, a qb doesn't get hit all that hard (unless you are Trent Green). I never said Peterson will be worn out because he is having a good college career so stop putting words in my mouth. The fact is Peterson is averaging 29.25 carries per game this season. He had 339 carries in his freshman season which is just shy of 30 per start and he had 220 last season only because he was injured. He can't do this in the nfl without missing a few weeks each season. He won't be playing Baylor in the nfl. He will be getting hit harder and harder every time he touches the ball. Im not saying he wont have a few good seasons in the nfl. Im saying i wouldn't want the Texans to draft him because he will not be able to be a franchise player for the next 10 or so seasons.

Looks like Adrian Peterson has pretty good durability to me, I dont know what your talking about here.
 
This dude hits line faster than anyone on our team right now and he only begins to juke once he gets to the second level. This is the everydown back we need right now, you can't count on DD. If we get the opportunity to draft you gotta get this guy. Don't sell me the we need defense because you already did that and there is plenty of defensive talent in FA (DBs) and second round.
 
didn't he have like 81 yards in the first half??

109 total??

so that's like 28 yards in the second half.
 
Y'all have said that for 4 years now and look where we are..

Please, give me a break...

So the Texans being a bad team is because we havent drafted a running back in the top 13 picks of the first round, or is it the fault of the Texans bad drafts top to bottom?

Give you a break? How about I give you a clue. Teams are built through the draft. Not by taking a running back with your number one pick.

If you are in the bottom of round 1, and are just trying to fill a hole for your playoff team so they can win the superbowl, then fine, get a running back. But if you are a team that drafts top 13 every year, you need more help than a first round running back can give you.

Now if you want to talk about a running back in round 2-3 then that sounds like a plan to me.
 
don't think we will draft adrian, hes a great RB, but DD will be back next season, and kubiak will get us a great RB, late in the first day of the draft, DB, or O-line is what we need

what about tarrel Brown, i know he had some problems early in the year, but hes a good CB that we could get mid-rounds

I like Terrel Brown. I'd like him a lot if we could get him early day two. Peterson strikes me as a faster Curtis Martin. I believe the Jets will do what it takes to grab him in the draft. Round peg inserted into the round hole.

Did anyone see the
Adam Gain's play in the Wake Forest game. Just a thought, and I do believe we should look at ol early, but that would be a heck of a tandem the next several seasons. Just a thought. That guy just willed a play and made it. I was impressed. Mario on one end and Gains on the other. Who do they double ?

http://cfn.scout.com/2/557854.html
 
So the Texans being a bad team is because we havent drafted a running back in the top 13 picks of the first round, or is it the fault of the Texans bad drafts top to bottom?

Give you a break? How about I give you a clue. Teams are built through the draft. Not by taking a running back with your number one pick.

If you are in the bottom of round 1, and are just trying to fill a hole for your playoff team so they can win the superbowl, then fine, get a running back. But if you are a team that drafts top 13 every year, you need more help than a first round running back can give you.

Now if you want to talk about a running back in round 2-3 then that sounds like a plan to me.

Let's agree to disagree...

You make absolutely no sence at all...

Key position players are the marquee of the team and they come through the draft. Our running game has sucked from day 1. DD was never the answer and will never be the answer. We have 1 first round pick on O and a google load on D. Until we can OUTSCORE opponents, we will not be a winner... You do know the team with the most points after the game is the winner, right?
 
Thunderkyss...what are you smoking??? all three of our backs combined wont get 2000 yds much less the 3100 your calling for...Our current backs (that get playing time) are horribly slow AND MISS EVERY HOLE THE O LINE OPENS UP FOR THEM...instead they run into their own linemans backs and end up smothering themselves at the line of scrimmage.

Step away from the Kool-aid, and take off the homer glasses.
 
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