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Last Drive Before the Half

Vinny

Vinny

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We had PLENTY of time to try to score. We just decided to say skroo it and go into the half at 3-3. This is as pathetic as it gets and this is a brutal brand of football. The Dolphins get the ball with .23 seconds and feel they have enough time to score. At least they play some football....we are scrimmaging.
 
So, is there any shine left on Kubiak? What away to look like a bunch of losers.
 
We're certainly playing to hang on. First half and we're already scared to death not to mess up.

Those who play not to mess up - mess up. Let's just do what our coaches are doing...keep our fingers crossed.:yawn:
 
They were trying not to mess up because in desperation carr may have thrown a turnover and so if we played it safe we get the ball first 2Half to take lead.
 
Someone tell me Capers didn't switch shirts at the 2 min warning. That was absouletely pathetic. Alsmost 2 min and 2 timeouts and we sit on the ball? Unreal. I'm glad that Kubiak didn't promise we would stop that playing not to lose stuff from the old regime. Oh wait, I think he did. :brickwall

Next thing we'll hear is after the game Kubes will say we didn't execute. :shoot:
 
1:54 left on the clock with 2 timeouts. That should be enough to gain 50 yards to at least set up a 47 yard FG attempt.

Imagine the meltdown had Miami scored within those final :23.
 
you guys just cant wait to find something to complain about. you just want to pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. it has been good game calling imo. now i will sit back and wait for the whiners to rip me.
 
In a game where points are minimal, you better take advantage of any opportunity you have.

We're talking about a simple 2:00 minute offense. It's pretty standard throughout the league. Even the Titans with a rookie QB today were able to drive down the field in the final 2:00 against Dallas and get a FG today.
 
profan said:
you guys just cant wait to find something to complain about. you just want to pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. it has been good game calling imo. now i will sit back and wait for the whiners to rip me.
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I wont. I'm with you. I guess some people are just too thick headed to realize that we are only 4 games into a new year where we have a new head coach, new systems on both sides of the ball, and very young players starting for this team. Some people are treating this year as if we were slated to go to the super bowl.


WE ARE REBUILDING PEOPLE!!!!
 
What is insulting to me is the fact that people continuely rip this team for anything and everything. Come on where is the good? Why don't we bring up the good sometimes? Instead of threads on how good our D is doing today or just the fact that we are still in this game and moving the ball really well. We get these types of threads.

So please stop insulting me with this trash you guys call a thread.



EDIT: I'm not going to go into an arguement with you here. You have your opinions and I have mine. We have stated them both so lets leave it at that. Thank You.
 
There is a time to go balls to the wall and a time to play conservative.

We won the game. According to my understanding, that makes Kubiak's decision to play conservative at the end of the half, the right one.
 
it worked out well...but not taking a shot at scoring with 2 mins left shows no confidence at all (probably justified). I'm not a big fan of playing not to lose.

yay teem though....it worked out.
 
He could have dropped back to pass, the protection might have broken down, Jason Taylor could stripped the ball away and taken it to the house, and it'd be 10-3 Miami.

I dunno . . doesn't it seem like there's enough second guessing around here when they lose? Or is it 'loose'? Maybe it's 'lose' after all. Naaa, it's 'loose'.
 
Marcus said:
He could have dropped back to pass, the protection might have broken down, Jason Taylor could stripped the ball away and taken it to the house, and it'd be 10-3 Miami.

I dunno . . doesn't it seem like there's enough second guessing around here when they lose? Or is it 'loose'? Maybe it's 'lose' after all. Naaa, it's 'loose'.
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and we could be hit by a meteor from outer space. I just yearn to have a team that will be aggressive on offense....We just gave up the possession. one day, one day perhaps.
 
I didn't like sitting on the ball either. IMO Miami's D hadn't shown anything yet at that point and Carr has done reasonably well in 2-minute drill possessions. In retrospect it worked out but I don't understand the decision then or now.
 
Vinny said:
We had PLENTY of time to try to score. We just decided to say skroo it and go into the half at 3-3. This is as pathetic as it gets and this is a brutal brand of football. The Dolphins get the ball with .23 seconds and feel they have enough time to score. At least they play some football....we are scrimmaging.
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Why when we were getting the ball to start the second half. I agreed with the decision. :yawn:
 
My name is Earl said:
Why when we were getting the ball to start the second half. I agreed with the decision. :yawn:
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It reeked of Capers; might've been his presence in the stadium. Caution has its place but the Miami D hadn't really come up with anything yet, and I thought Carr has performed relatively well in hurry-up to this point. Plenty of time and getting the ball back tied is well and good, but getting it back up 7 is even better.
 
jerek said:
It reeked of Capers; might've been his presence in the stadium. Caution has its place but the Miami D hadn't really come up with anything yet, and I thought Carr has performed relatively well in hurry-up to this point. Plenty of time and getting the ball back tied is well and good, but getting it back up 7 is even better.
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Well we won so who cares now right? At least we are not going to start 0-6 like last year.:cowboy1:
 
Vinny said:
probably cause the Dolphins got it to start the game. Just giving up on one of the few possessions you have in a game reeks of lameness.

jmo
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Yeah but deep in our own territory you don't risk a mistake that could cost you the game when we can start the second half with the ball.:cowboy1:

JMO
 
I swear I turned red when I saw what they were doing. If I ever - EVER - hear the words "we're going to try to keep it close and then find a way to win in the 4th quarter" come out of Kubiak's mouth - I will be a charter member of the Fire Kubiak Club.

1 minute and 54 seconds. Shameful.
 
My name is Earl said:
Yeah but deep in our own territory you don't risk a mistake that could cost you the game when we can start the second half with the ball.:cowboy1:

JMO
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But don't you think that, in that one move, the players are hearing "sorry, guys, but we just don't trust you enough not to make a mistake"? That has to be detrimental to morale over the long run.
 
profan said:
you guys just cant wait to find something to complain about. you just want to pass, pass, pass, pass, pass. it has been good game calling imo. now i will sit back and wait for the whiners to rip me.
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I'm down with you dogg, more than forcing something trying to score, Kube's had confidence in the way the D was playing that they could end the half with the score still tied. He knew we get the ball to start the 2nd half, and probably rather to score then instead of playing catch-up. It didn't happen that way, but we can thank Bidell or whatever his name is for that.
 
I wasnt happy about it either, but in a 3-3 game and with us getting posession to start the second half, I can understand it. It would be nice to average more then 3 yards a carry, also.
 
Vinny said:
We had PLENTY of time to try to score. We just decided to say skroo it and go into the half at 3-3. This is as pathetic as it gets and this is a brutal brand of football. The Dolphins get the ball with .23 seconds and feel they have enough time to score. At least they play some football....we are scrimmaging.
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I think its more that a big play for us (touchdown drive) would help us less than a big play for them (interception) would hurt us. Kubiak didn't want to go into that locker room at halftime after self destructing before the half again. Kills the morale of the team, and gives the other team momentum.

Our team is pretty fragile right now.
 
Kubiak didn't run the 2 minute offense because he doesn't have confidence in their execution.

I wonder what the problem is? Who does he think can't execute?

That is what someone should ask him on his radio show.
 
hollywood_texan said:
Kubiak didn't run the 2 minute offense because he doesn't have confidence in their execution.

I wonder what the problem is? Who does he think can't execute?

That is what someone should ask him on his radio show.
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This quote is ridiculous. The problem is you don't know football.:tease:
 
hollywood_texan said:
Kubiak didn't run the 2 minute offense because he doesn't have confidence in their execution.

I wonder what the problem is? Who does he think can't execute?

That is what someone should ask him on his radio show.
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I think that is an excellent question for Kubiak's show. It's not always easy to find constructive ways to put the coach on the spot - but you definitely hit it there.
 
It didn't bug me too bad, though I would have like to have tried at least one run to the outside to maybe eat more clock (and because runs down the middle ain't working).

The reason why I was fine with it is because I still have post traumatic stress symptoms from the interception/TD before the half that happened last year during the KC game.
 
hollywood_texan said:
Kubiak didn't run the 2 minute offense because he doesn't have confidence in their execution.

I wonder what the problem is? Who does he think can't execute?

That is what someone should ask him on his radio show.
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K.D. said:
This quote is ridiculous. The problem is you don't know football.:tease:
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How is this ridiculous?

Kubiak is an offensive minded coach that has plenty of time to get down the field to kick a fieldgoal. Which was an excellent opportunity because they were getting the ball first in the second half.

Why did Kubiak not run the 2 minute offense?

It seems clear to me that he doesn't have confidence that they can execute the 2 minute drill.

What else could it be if it is so ridiculous?
 
Yo Hollywood Texan, all I got to say is OFFENSIVE LINE. Not that he has no confidence in them, but he knows that they are very FRAGILE right now.
 
Texans_Chick said:
The reason why I was fine with it is because I still have post traumatic stress symptoms from the interception/TD before the half that happened last year during the KC game.
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Exactly. An interception period would really hurt our team at that point. INT for a touchdown is even worse. I think Kubiak is taking steps with this team, if he feels he can boost their morale why take a gamble at destroying it again.
 
I wasn't irate when we decided to run clock, but I would have liked us to go for some points in that situation, and would have thought a coach like Kubiak would've thought likewise. Carr hasn't been great at making big plays down the field (he's been pretty decent though), but he's been really safe with the football. I would've liked to see us try and drive down for a field goal or, if we hit a big play, a touchdown.
 
My name is Earl said:
Yeah but deep in our own territory you don't risk a mistake that could cost you the game when we can start the second half with the ball.:cowboy1:

JMO
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ok i get what happened now......

you cant say that decision was right- it was wrong...luckily it didnt cost us the game...id agree with you if there was around a minute left and 1 or none to's but time wasn't a constraint-for a fg anyway....

using your logic we should have punted at the start of the 2nd half aswell because we shouldnt 'risk a mistake'
 
TexansSeminole said:
Exactly. An interception period would really hurt our team at that point. INT for a touchdown is even worse. I think Kubiak is taking steps with this team, if he feels he can boost their morale why take a gamble at destroying it again.
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And he would fear this because David Carr has thrown how many interceptions this year? One? One that wasn't really an interception?
 
Tulip said:
And he would fear this because David Carr has thrown how many interceptions this year? One? One that wasn't really an interception?
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Two, but it's not a whole lot different than one. Well that's another reason why he wouldn't want to go for it there. You've got David Carr playing good football, his confidence seems to be lifting every week. David Carr throws an interception there, it hurts his confidence. Imagine if it goes for a touchdown, then its a real big mistake, and then Miami's confidence goes through the roof. Your looking at stats too much. Things obviously change fast in the NFL. 1 INT turns into 2 INTs. 2 INTs turns into 3 INTs. 1 TD turns into 2 TDs. 2 TDs turns into 3 TDs. Kubiak has Carr on a good track, but it is slow and steady one.
 
I think also that Kubiak knows we are weak in our secondary...You saw what the Dolphins hurry up offense did at the end of the game...It looked bad at first, but now I think it was good decision...He basically didnt give them an opportunity to exploit our coverage with the 2 min drill.
 
K.D. said:
Yo Hollywood Texan, all I got to say is OFFENSIVE LINE. Not that he has no confidence in them, but he knows that they are very FRAGILE right now.
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From your response, it looks like my point wasn't ridiculous but right on point!

You just have a hard time admitting it.
 
Second guessing even after a win.....sad. If we pass and it's intercepted the complaint would be "why didn't we run out the clock, we're getting the ball to start the second half." Some of you people just feel the need to bit@# don't you?
 
You do not squander 1:54 left in the half when you are 0-3. We simply are not good enough to be able look at our options for winning in a portfolio-play manner.

We needed this win bad. This blunder, by Kubiak, or expose of our QB's limitations, will be looked over as it needs to be since the mission was accomplished. But even after victory you must go find the mistakes, because there are always plenty, and work on them the following week. This is how you get better and look like a NFL team. We took a step forward on the offensive and defensive side of the ball today, in my opinion, and that alone makes it a good day to be a Texan. :texflag:
 
Vinny said:
We had PLENTY of time to try to score. We just decided to say skroo it and go into the half at 3-3. This is as pathetic as it gets and this is a brutal brand of football. The Dolphins get the ball with .23 seconds and feel they have enough time to score. At least they play some football....we are scrimmaging.
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I dont know why we wont go for a chance to slice a persons throat. Looked like Capers play calling as well.
 
This might be a good question for somebody to call in and ask about tomorrow during his show on 610. I nominate Marcus.
 
I agreed with the first two runs, but on third down i would have liked to see us have a more creative play called. We needed the first down to keep the minnows offense off the field. Time out was called right after the play so we gained nothing from the conservative run in that situation. But hey, we won the game so its all good. Congrats Mario on your first nfl sack and congrats to all the Texans fans on our first win of the season.
 
Texans_Chick said:
It didn't bug me too bad, though I would have like to have tried at least one run to the outside to maybe eat more clock (and because runs down the middle ain't working).

The reason why I was fine with it is because I still have post traumatic stress symptoms from the interception/TD before the half that happened last year during the KC game.
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amen, turnovers are killer
 
Stampede said:
I agreed with the first two runs, but on third down i would have liked to see us have a more creative play called. We needed the first down to keep the minnows offense off the field. Time out was called right after the play so we gained nothing from the conservative run in that situation. But hey, we won the game so its all good. Congrats Mario on your first nfl sack and congrats to all the Texans fans on our first win of the season.
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id pass on first down- then run on the next play whether it was successfull or not and then see where you are

Second guessing even after a win.....sad. If we pass and it's intercepted the complaint would be "why didn't we run out the clock, we're getting the ball to start the second half." Some of you people just feel the need to bit@# don't you?
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i dont think its *****ing for the sake of it- its not like it was a situation where it was being dumb or overly aggressive like throwing a ball up with 30 secs left.. id say ,even if the worst case scenario ie pick 6 etc, most fans would be forgiving to kubiak because they knew we had plenty of time and its a situation where most good, experienced coaches- like belichick, shanahan etc would do the same....and where the dom capers and mike mularkey's of this world go conservative........

to me thats why most people, myself included, are annoyed about it....i dont know maybe i read too much TMQ
 
NederlandTexan said:
Second guessing even after a win.....sad. If we pass and it's intercepted the complaint would be "why didn't we run out the clock, we're getting the ball to start the second half." Some of you people just feel the need to bit@# don't you?
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Well I prefer to call in criticism. Yes we got the win, but some fans here also like to point out faults with the team and what we think they could have done better. This is one of them. I was disappointed in the three straight rushing plays. At least take one shot downfield! I wonder what Kubiak has to say about this drive.
 
Vinny said:
We had PLENTY of time to try to score. We just decided to say skroo it and go into the half at 3-3. This is as pathetic as it gets and this is a brutal brand of football.
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It's call Dom Caper's Time Of Prossesion Scheme. LOL
Let hope that's the LAST time we'll see 2 minute of the game going to wate.
 
It wasn't that bad a call IMO. Mostly because I was in my seat thinking "please don't turn it over" the whole time too. :P It was had to shake the image of Taylor stripping the Ball from Carr which just happened a few possessions ago.

But after this game, we should really start trusting Carr more. Kubiak's gotta believe in him and believe he can make the plays when he has to. He did in the 2nd half didn't he? :)
 
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