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edo783 said:They are reporting that Peek was signed today (RFA?). Might this be the part that was needed to make the Bennet trade? Suposedly he was offered, but they turned it down....might it be because of not being signed? Either way, good to get him signed.
Cincinnatikid said:He already was signed for his RFA year, but does this mean he signed a long term deal?
David's Busted Carr said:I hope they don't give up Peek for Bennett!
chuckm said:For me his pash rushing skills were "over-hyped" 2 years ago when he was a "situational" pash rusher (in between dog house trips) ..... he comes in fresh against tired OLinemen and makes a few sacks ... suddenly we're all (me included) thinking wow if Capers/Fangio would get this guy on the field more often ....
Cincinnatikid said:That is a flawed arguement. If the oline was that tired then why didnt the guy he was replacing get the sack the plays right before he came in?
Cincinnatikid said:I dont think you can evaluate anyones skills on the defense the last couple of years because of how flawed the system was. He will be much better this season if he gets a chance to play.
Vinny said:I've always felt he was overrated a bit around here. Excellent special team player, but not the dynamic edge rusher everyone thought he was going to be...still waiting on that one.
ArlingtonTexan said:From what they have shown on the field, Peek and babin are two halves of an outstanding pass rusher. Peek has excellent speed, but does show a variety of moves of techniques. Babin has good multiple moves, but does not have the pure edge speed to set-up his guy on a regular basis. Honestly, i think both will be more effective playing along a line with other good pass rushers versus either being counted on as the main guy.
ArlingtonTexan said:From what they have shown on the field, Peek and babin are two halves of an outstanding pass rusher.... QUOTE]
What he said...
Ive often felt Peek was a ST guy and situational rusher - not the big rush threat hes touted as. He seemed to get lucky on more than a few sacks and didnt seem to try as hard after a few plays when playing long series.
Babin to me still is a big reach thats never panned out and we paid way way way to much to get. We'll never get those picks back and for all his hype he hasnt produced worth crap on the field. I grant you he was switching from DE to OLB, but, jeez -he cant even make the starting lineup. - For a 1st rounder thats unacceptable in my book. Until he's making the probowl regularly, IMO we will have paid too much. He's got a who onle lot of hard work ahead. - I would be trying to trade him for Bennett for sure - at least Peek made sacks occassionaly
Babin has looked soft in his first two years and I'd guess carried more body fat than ideal. That either means his body is still changing or he is lazy. It could be a combination of both, but he didnt appear strong enough to bull rush a good DT last year. I look for a guy around his same bodyweight this year but with more definition. If we don't see that in camp, and instead see the same soft-looking Babin, he probably isn't going to make it. He doesnt have the frame to be a flabby DE.ArlingtonTexan said:From what they have shown on the field, Peek and babin are two halves of an outstanding pass rusher. Peek has excellent speed, but does show a variety of moves of techniques. Babin has good multiple moves, but does not have the pure edge speed to set-up his guy on a regular basis. Honestly, i think both will be more effective playing along a line with other good pass rushers versus either being counted on as the main guy.
Vinny said:Babin has looked soft in his first two years and I'd guess carried more body fat than ideal. That either means his body is still changing or he is lazy. It could be a combination of both, but he didnt appear strong enough to bull rush a good DT last year. I look for a guy around his same bodyweight this year but with more definition. If we don't see that in camp, and instead see the same soft-looking Babin, he probably isn't going to make it. He doesnt have the frame to be a flabby DE.
imo Peek has to prove he can stop the run as a DE, because he wasn't good at it as 3-4 ROLB. I think he can be a good situational pass rusher, but I think we have a problem if he starts for us at RE.
David's Busted Carr said:I hope they don't give up Peek for Bennett!