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I saw when they asked that question the other night, but didn't get to see the results. I'm actually surprised that we won the vote. I know we are the better team, but the Cowboys have a much larger following and they are somehow still managing to ride the coat tails of their former success.
I saw when they asked that question the other night, but didn't get to see the results. I'm actually surprised that we won the vote. I know we are the better team, but the Cowboys have a much larger following and they are somehow still managing to ride the coat tails of their former success.
The Cowboys do have a much larger following...when the team is winning. Otherwise, their massive bandwagon fanbase does not bother to watch and certainly would not even know about this poll as a result.
Published: About an hour ago
by Chris Shelton
RANT It!
courtesy of NFL.com
Who is the best football team in Texas? 78% of fans say the Houston Texans are better than the Dallas Cowboys, according to an NFL.com poll.
I am sure that Jerry Jones is not to happy about that. His team is his baby, sometimes to The Cowboys detriment. Its tough for one person to be owner and General Manager.
Thats not a surprising result though, given how the two teams finished last season.
The Texans had their best year ever, winning 10 games in the regular season and playoff game. They also competed well against the Baltimore Ravens with a trip to the AFC Championship on the line without their starting Quarterback on the field.
The Cowboys were just disappointing. Dallas failed to make the playoffs in a year where 9-7 won the Division. The Philadelphia Eagles took a step back and the Washington Redskins were terrible.
So now the dynamic of expectations have changed for these two Texas franchises.
The Texans are expected to be SuperBowl contenders. For sure capturing the AFC South seems almost like a given. The Jacksonville Jaguars and Indianapolis Colts have only taken marginal steps forward, in terms of talent and leadership. The Colts drafted Andrew Luck but his presence will not make them contenders in his first year. The Jaguars dont have the requisite talent to win enough games to compete for a playoff berth.
And the Tennessee Titans are still a long way away from contention. The Texans were better than the Titans with their third string QB.
For the Cowboys, their division is in a totally different situation. The Eagles can and should be better, given Michael Vicks injury situation. Thats a big if though. Vick has been injury prone for a good part of his career to this point. And the New York Giants are current SuperBowl champions. Naturally they are the favorite to win the NFC East.
The Texans are in an easier division and have more recent playoff success. That bodes well for them.
For once, the expectations are more lofty for the Texans than their big brothers up I45, Im not sure who that is better for. Maybe Dallas will flourish as underdogs. Maybe its a good thing for the Cowboys to be out of the limelight.
From a Texans perspective, they now have believers. They will be a sexy SuperBowl pick.
Can they handle the expectations?
I've lived in the Dallas/Fort Worth are for over 10 years. Those people up there could care less about being compared to the team "down south". They look at the Texans about the same way as they look at the city of Houston in general, face down.
As far as expectations go, the higher they are, the harder the fall.
Yeah, I think that's the general consensus. Did Cowboy fans ever hate Houston when the Oilers were around?
Yeah, I think that's the general consensus. Did Cowboy fans ever hate Houston when the Oilers were around? I wasn't here, so I don't know, but I never got the feeling there was a rivalry between the two.
Anyways, I do think some people take this perceived rivalry too far. I went to the Texans/Browns game last year with some friends and on the way into the stadium we saw a guy wearing a Texans jersey that had the name "DUCK FALLAS" on the back instead of a player. He was holding the hand of his little 8 year old girl too. I really wish I had taken a picture of it, but I just couldn't believe someone would actually make a jersey that said that. What a waste, but we sure did laugh about it.
I've hated their way. They were flashy, Hollywood (no pun on Thomas), arrogant, and in Texas.
True, I was always green with envy at their success, but by the time they had their success I'd been a hater for quite some time.
A buddy of mine from high school, a lifelong Houstonian, is a Cowboy fan and caught wind of this poll. Now his FB page is a rage of hate towards the Texans. I mean picture after picture of Cowboy love and Texans hate. (I thought Cowboy fans were above that).
Now I will readily admit to not understanding Cowboy fans who are Houstonians other than those who have lived in Dallas and then moved here.
I have been in Houston since the 70's and have always supported the Houston teams, in fact supported the Oilers before I left East Texas.
As mentioned even though I have been in Houston for decades, anyone who has asked me where I live I reply Missouri City, but if asked where I'm from, I reply Palestine, Texas.
Seriously, you are accusing the early Landry Cowboys with guys like Bob Lilly, Don Meredith, Chuck Howley and Don Perkins of being flashy and arrogant?
Yeah, funny to think about now. I grew to like these guys in retrospect and after reading a book or two about the Cowboys of that era. I guess when you choose to dislike you weave a tangled web. It is what it is.
"Quite some time" being defined as those well formed football opinions from 0-4 years old? - because after that (when they had their first winning season) the Cowboys went on an in the playoffs streak of 18 appearances in the next 20 years of your life.
Lol, I see your point. All I remember was having a huge dislike for them as I watched Supbowl V against the Baltimore Colts. My friend and I "called" the game usinga newfangled tape recorder he had gotten for Christmas the month before. That puts me at 6 years old, not a lot of "quite some time."
Now I will readily admit to not understanding Cowboy fans who are Houstonians other than those who have lived in Dallas and then moved here.
All I remember was having a huge dislike for them as I watched Supbowl V against the Baltimore Colts. My friend and I "called" the game usinga newfangled tape recorder he had gotten for Christmas the month before.
If instant replay had existed the Cowboys would have won that game. One of if not the worst officiating botch jobs of all time.
Trivia - that is the only time a player for the non-winning team won MVP, and then he turned it down.
I'll hazard an honest guess, Chuck Howley?
See I get folks like you - people not from either Dallas or Houston who ended up picking a Texas team or both to support. I don't get folks like my sister-in-law who was born and has spent her whole life here and sticks Cowboys gear on her son. On top of that she goes out of her way to say derogatory things about the Texans. Frankly as someone who grew up a Cowboys fan but is now a Texans fan first it kind of offends me. I can see where other Houstonians would would find it obnoxious. I wonder if that isn't a significant part of the hostility.
As most of you know I grew up in Ft. Worth and lived there through college. Always a massive, die-hard Cowboy fan but a majority of people I knew rooted for the Oilers as a second team because they supported football in Texas. I was 7 or 8 and was pissed about the Mike Renfro bad call because I hated the Steelers as a Cowboy fan. I had an older brother that went to UT when Earl was there so since we cheered for UT, we cheered for Earl in Houston. Just that easy. My allegiances were always with Cowboys first though. But I never saw it as a rivalry. I even had an Earl jersey.
What made it harder for me when the Texans came was that I had been in Houston and had every intention of feeling the same way like I did the Oilers but there was so much Cowboy hate on Houston radio and the fellow Cowboy callers were so obnoxious that it changed the dynamics. The fans on this board are great but just like there are obnoxious Cowboy fans there are Houston fans whose main goal is to hate Dallas more than cheer for Houston. So there was some resentment on my part for a long time. When people are happier for a Cowboy loss than a Texans win, something is off. I also wouldn't call my fellow Cowboy fans bandwagon. Most are pretty diehard...crazy diehard. But like any success you will have a definite growth spurt in the good times. I mean as a kid I was in the middle of 25 years straight of winning records so people thought that was normal.
Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.
You and I used to get into some good back-and-forths way back in the day.
I miss the days of us kicking each others' ass.
Yeah we did but I've mellowed at 42 and 3 kids
I think alot of it was more about disagreements on running the Texans though. So it has worked out!
Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.
Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.
Did I missing something? Have they replaced Jerry Jones?
The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.
The AFC north is fun to watch with the Steelers/Ravens. But the Browns and Bengals are just crap teams, so that division is not quite as compelling as their NFC counterpart. The NFC north should be a lot of fun to watch this year, as the Lions and Bears (oh my!) appear to be ready to battle and give the Packers a run for their money.
The AFC east has been fun the past decade, especially now with the Jets being somewhat consistent and really hating the Patriots. Obviously the Dolphins and Bills have been sucky, so not quite on par with the NFC east.
The one division that I just don't care about is the NFC west. After they put up a 7-9 division winner, that division is dead to me. I got nothing for the 49ers, either.
Damn, talking about football has give me 'the itch' now. I try to suppress it for 6 months after the Super Bowl, and do a pretty good job of it. But now training camp is around the corner, and it's one of those anticipations that is hard to deny. I'm ready for some football!!
Training camp is really sneaking up on us. I've seen some Fantasy Football League talk around here the last week or so and that alone was enough to give me that "kid on Christmas Eve' feeling.
Let the games begin!!
YUP!!I've been itching big time as the updates on whay might be camp battles, etc are escalating between pundits on Twitter and all. Especially rankings on fantasy football talks. I'm not a big NBA guy at all so I've been in a no man's zone...actually watched more golf than anything lately. So I need football.
NFL is the only sport that I regularly watch, so I'm wandering the desert in the off-season. I could not care less about basketball or baseball.
It does help me get stuff done, though! The fall comes and my Sundays are spoken for. My wife knew she would be a football widow when we met, but I do not think she quite understood that she would be a football widow for the rest of her life!
The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.
The AFC north is fun to watch with the Steelers/Ravens. But the Browns and Bengals are just crap teams, so that division is not quite as compelling as their NFC counterpart.
Same here.
When I was in high school, I followed everything. NCAA football and basketball, NFL, NBA, MLB. Us kids were always watching sports and discussing it at school the next day...every day...all year long. Sports card trading, too. It was an obsession.
As I became older, with more "real life" to handle...my passion died for everything but NFL. I catch a few NCAA football games, and my alma mater West Texas A&M University home games here nearby, but that's it.
I'm Texans 24-7-365. I don't paint my room and collect hat pins and stuff, but I come here every day. I check the various NFL sites every day. Only MMA comes close to challenging my dedication and time I give to NFL.
The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.