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Knapp hired as Texans' QB Coach

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Greg Knapp, who worked with quarterback Matt Schaub for three years in Atlanta, has been hired as the Texans' quarterbacks coach. Knapp, 46, was the Falcons' offensive coordinator during Schaub's first three seasons (2004-06) before he was traded to the Texans. Knapp, who has no connections to Denver and has never worked with Texans coach Gary Kubiak, was Seattle's offensive coordinator last year.
 
I can hear the jokes now if Schaub has a bad game ....
Schaub took a knapp during the game
or Schaub caught knapping for the 2nd half of the game

:kitten:

on a serious note, I am not familiar with Knapp at all
 
I like that Kubiak hired a guy for Matt and not for himself. Seattle's offense last year was disturbingly pathetic so I hope to God this guy doesn't have much creative input but its good that Schaub will have a familiar person with him to review pictures of the opponents' defense during games.

Clearly they were trying to get someone who Schaub's comfortable with.
 
I like that Kubiak hired a guy for Matt and not for himself. Seattle's offense last year was disturbingly pathetic so I hope to God this guy doesn't have much creative input but its good that Schaub will have a familiar person with him to review pictures of the opponents' defense during games.

Clearly they were trying to get someone who Schaub's comfortable with.

Might be a good thing, as it kind of a big demotion going from OC to QB coach, don't know anything about him but certainly sounds like him getting back to his strong suit a la Dom Capers going back to DC.
 
I like this hire. Even though Lil Shanny was hailed as a boy genius I was never comfortable with him coaching QBs. I know Kubiak is still going to take a personal interest in Schaub's development but its nice that we've got an experienced coach to tutor our QBs rather than a guy juggling both the OC/QB coach titles.

Maybe I am still turned off by our redzone offense and the WTF Chris Brown pass among other things but I think we've upgraded with Dennison/Knapp over Lil Shanny. That's not a knock on Shanny, I just don't think he was ready to be both an OC/QB coach at this stage of his coaching career and it put an unnecessary pressure on our HC to micromanage the offense rather than concentrate on the big picture.
 
Suprising, but think it's a good signing. No if we can just get to a happy place where Kubiak will let Matt change the play at the line.
 
Found this interesting piece written right after his Seattle hire:

Knapp joins the Seahawks after spending two years in the same capacity with the Oakland Raiders. He broke in to the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in 1995, serving three years as offensive quality control coach (1995-97) and three years as quarterbacks coach before being promoted to offensive coordinator from 2001-03. In 2004, he joined head coach Jim Mora in Atlanta where he also served three years as offensive coordinator.

During his 14 years on the offensive side of the ball in the NFL, 10 of the 14 quarterbacks have taken part in the Pro Bowl (Steve Young from 1995-98, Jeff Garcia from 2000-03 and Michael Vick from 2005-06). In his eight years as offensive coordinator, Knapp’s rushing attack has placed in the NFL top-10 all eight years, including five top-five finishes and led the NFL in rushing three consecutive seasons, all during Mora’s tenure in Atlanta (2004-06).

Prior to the NFL, Knapp spent nine years on the staff at Sacramento State, where he ranks as one of the school’s all-time leaders with more than 3,800 passing yards and 32 touchdowns. He served as running backs coach (1986-89), receivers coach (1989-90) and offensive coordinator/assistant head coach (1991-94). He went to training camps with Kansas City (1986), L.A. Raiders (1987-90) and San Francisco (1992-94).

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The highlight of his career (for the purposes we're concerned with anyway) is probably the 5 years he spent as QB coach and then OC for Jeff Garcia in San Fran - the last three of which ended in Pro-Bowl appearances by Garcia.

The lowlight is two years coordinating the Raiders offense, overseeing such notable throwers as Jamarcus Russell, Daunte Culpepper, and Josh McCown.

He also followed Mora Jr. from San Fran to Atlanta, and oversaw the last three years of the Vick era in Hotlanta.

Spotty to be sure, but most of that's as an OC. Given the fact that the only two QB's who actually started for him while he was a QB coach were Garcia and Steve Young, we should probably give him a chance. Still, we'll start him out on double-secret probation, warm up the "Fire Knapp" threads to be unleashed after the first pre-season game (if not before), and see how he does.
 
The highlight of his career (for the purposes we're concerned with anyway) is probably the 5 years he spent as QB coach and then OC for Jeff Garcia in San Fran - the last three of which ended in Pro-Bowl appearances by Garcia.

The lowlight is two years coordinating the Raiders offense, overseeing such notable throwers as Jamarcus Russell, Daunte Culpepper, and Josh McCown.

He also followed Mora Jr. from San Fran to Atlanta, and oversaw the last three years of the Vick era in Hotlanta.

Spotty to be sure, but most of that's as an OC. Given the fact that the only two QB's who actually started for him while he was a QB coach were Garcia and Steve Young, we should probably give him a chance. Still, we'll start him out on double-secret probation, warm up the "Fire Knapp" threads to be unleashed after the first pre-season game (if not before), and see how he does.

Knapp will never be given enough power/control to be responsible for any failures of Schaub or the offense... atleast I'm assuming that based on the fact that he's never worked with Kubiak and appears to be, if anything, Schaub's old "blankie." He's a familiar face for Schaub and thats all we should care about.
 
Interesting connections with Kubiak.

Being with the 49ers even at a different time that Kubiak means that he is very familiar with what they did there, which is the basis of what Kubiak does now.

Also, Knapp was with Atlanta when Alex Gibbs was at Atlanta.

And he has the relationship with Schaub.

Love these hires.

Dennison and Knapp aren't riding in their first rodeo. And they are very familiar with the bull they drew.:logo:
 
Kubiak will still have a lot of say in Schaub's development. However, I am more confident in Knapp's ability to improve Schaub's play as his exclusive QB coach than I was with Lil Shanny as his part time QB coach/ part time OC.
 
I've been tough on Kubes, but I have to give him some credit here. I thought Dennison was a good hire, and I think this one is even better. Good job.
 
About time we hire a coach without a Denver connection
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Found this interesting piece written right after his Seattle hire:

Knapp joins the Seahawks after spending two years in the same capacity with the Oakland Raiders. He broke in to the NFL with the San Francisco 49ers in 1995, serving three years as offensive quality control coach (1995-97) and three years as quarterbacks coach before being promoted to offensive coordinator from 2001-03. In 2004, he joined head coach Jim Mora in Atlanta where he also served three years as offensive coordinator.

During his 14 years on the offensive side of the ball in the NFL, 10 of the 14 quarterbacks have taken part in the Pro Bowl (Steve Young from 1995-98, Jeff Garcia from 2000-03 and Michael Vick from 2005-06). In his eight years as offensive coordinator, Knapp’s rushing attack has placed in the NFL top-10 all eight years, including five top-five finishes and led the NFL in rushing three consecutive seasons, all during Mora’s tenure in Atlanta (2004-06).

Prior to the NFL, Knapp spent nine years on the staff at Sacramento State, where he ranks as one of the school’s all-time leaders with more than 3,800 passing yards and 32 touchdowns. He served as running backs coach (1986-89), receivers coach (1989-90) and offensive coordinator/assistant head coach (1991-94). He went to training camps with Kansas City (1986), L.A. Raiders (1987-90) and San Francisco (1992-94).

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Kubiak will still have a lot of say in Schaub's development. However, I am more confident in Knapp's ability to improve Schaub's play as his exclusive QB coach than I was with Lil Shanny as his part time QB coach/ part time OC.

I tried really hard to find some kind of reasoning behind this statement but I just can't. Schaub's improvement this year should have had you devistated at loosing his QB coach. I'm not even talking about his numbers... even though that's a great sign that he improved. His pocket presence was the biggest improvement in his game in 2009. If you look at a guy like Romo or Rogers, they had this natural pocket presence but lacked things like accuracy as well as decision making and some other aspects of a young QB's game but I would think that Schaub's decision making was already above the curve for a guy with as few starts as he's had and his accuracy is just about as good as you could ask for. Whoever has been coaching him over the past two seasons has done an increcible job of continuing his strengths and improving his weaknesses.

Knapp may be the 4th choice (if you include lil' Shanny) but he appears to be an excellent 4th choice and another home run for Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak.
 
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Very cool find. Thank you for posting...


I tried really hard to find some kind of reasoning behind this statement but I just can't. Schaub's improvement this year should have had you devistated at loosing his QB coach. I'm not even talking about his numbers... even though that's a great sign that he improved. His pocket presence was the biggest improvement in his game in 2009. If you look at a guy like Romo or Rogers, they had this natural pocket presence but lacked things like accuracy as well as decision making and some other aspects of a young QB's game but I would think that Schaub's decision making was already above the curve for a guy with as few starts as he's had and his accuracy is just about as good as you could ask for. Whoever has been coaching him over the past two seasons has done an increcible job of continuing his strengths and improving his weaknesses.

Knapp may be the 4th choice (if you include lil' Shanny) but he appears to be an excellent 4th choice and another home run for Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak.

Knapp doesn't have a tattoo of Vince Young on his left ankle. How is that for a reason?
 
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Very cool find. Thank you for posting...


I tried really hard to find some kind of reasoning behind this statement but I just can't. Schaub's improvement this year should have had you devistated at loosing his QB coach. I'm not even talking about his numbers... even though that's a great sign that he improved. His pocket presence was the biggest improvement in his game in 2009. If you look at a guy like Romo or Rogers, they had this natural pocket presence but lacked things like accuracy as well as decision making and some other aspects of a young QB's game but I would think that Schaub's decision making was already above the curve for a guy with as few starts as he's had and his accuracy is just about as good as you could ask for. Whoever has been coaching him over the past two seasons has done an increcible job of continuing his strengths and improving his weaknesses.

Knapp may be the 4th choice (if you include lil' Shanny) but he appears to be an excellent 4th choice and another home run for Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak.


Schaub was due for a big season last year assuming he stayed healthy. Shanahan Sr. says it takes a QB about three years to really get the system.

I wonder if this means that we will have an OC who is up in the coaches booth? Shan Jr. best function was to be next his players on game day, but with Knapp on the sideline, will that free the OC to be in the booth?
 
Using Pro Bowl selection as a qualifier for success is nothing more than gloss. However, I like this hire since he is a position coach working with someone he is familiar with, which should give Dennison more time to work on the offense, especially the O line.

Hopefully he can turn Orlovsky or Grossman into a quality backup and give Kubiak a roster spot back.
 
Knapp was the San Fran OC that Terrell Owens blasted on the sidelines during a game.

Looks like a good hire - knows both Schaub and the system.
 
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I tried really hard to find some kind of reasoning behind this statement but I just can't.

Schaub picked up where he left off after returning from injury last season. I don't know how much him staying healthy and maintaining his level of play had to do with Lil Shanny and how much of it had to do with Kubes, but we finally got to see what healthy Schaub can do.

I think its an upgrade that we've got 2 guys with more of a track record than Lil Shanny covering his previous jobs together.
 
Schaub was due for a big season last year assuming he stayed healthy. Shanahan Sr. says it takes a QB about three years to really get the system.

I wonder if this means that we will have an OC who is up in the coaches booth? Shan Jr. best function was to be next his players on game day, but with Knapp on the sideline, will that free the OC to be in the booth?

I've seen several images of Knapp when he was OC in Atlanta and he's a sideline OC. I think some guys are just more comfortable one way or the other. I'm not sure what his position was there. Was he QB/OC or just OC? I don't know about Seattle either. Having a QB coach does seem to suggest that Dennison will be upstairs and work closely with Kubiak and Knapp. But it may just depend on what he's comfortable with. It always seemed odd to me that you could see what's going on from the sideline. I figured that bird's eye view would be much more telling. But then again, that's what they have assistants for. Maybe they prefer being able to talk face to face with the players as things are happening.
 
Knapp was the San Fran OC that Terrell Owens blasted on the sidelines during a game.

Looks like a good hire - knows both Schaub and the system.

Knapp's "forte" is considered the West Coast Offense. As you said, excellent fit. And who knows, if the OC gets stolen away, he may end up being a natural "step in" insurance policy.
 
a pretty interesting post over on TC's blog @ chron.com

I thought it might be interesting to go year-by-year through the units Knapp has worked on, looking at DVOA for quarterbacks and the offense as a whole, with the years before he arrived and after he left as a point of comparison.

San Francisco (1998-2003)

Year Position Offense DVOA QB QB DVOA
1997 N/A 2.3% (10th) Young 28.1% (2nd)
1998 QB coach 25.1% (2nd) Young 25.9% (8th)
1999 QB coach -7.3& (16th) Garcia -2.8% (24th)
2000 QB coach 17.8% (5th) Garcia 29.4% (3rd)
2001 OC 18.5% (1st) Garcia 13.9% (4th)
2002 OC 21.3% (3rd) Garcia 15.9% (9th)
2003 OC 5.9% (11th) Garcia 2.2% (15th)
2004 N/A -20.2% (29th) Rattay -16.6% (30th)

Tough to give Knapp too much credit for the rebound of the 49ers offense as a whole in 1998, given that Young's level of play remained essentially unchanged. However, I do think that getting roughly league-average play out of Jeff Garcia in his first NFL season (having not taken the bulk of the reps in pre-season, since Young entered that season as the starter), and then elite play in his second, reflects very well on Knapp's performance as a QB coach. As offensive co-ordinator, Knapp oversaw two seasons of dominant play in the system he had been brought up in (and which is closely related to the one he will be working in with the Texans). Mariucci was then replaced as head coach with Dennis Erickson, who implemented a half-assed cross between the existing West Coast offense and his own, more deep ball heavy system, which was probably a bad offense in the first place and certainly didn't suit the personnel (especially Garcia). Factor in the injury problems the team had to deal with that season, and I'd actually see getting above average results as an excellent outcome for Knapp. He then left, as did Garcia, precipitating an absolute collapse from the 49ers offense which probably tells us rather more about Erickson than Knapp. Overall, it's hard to see Knapp's 6 years in San Francisco as representing anything other than excellent performance, albeit in favourable circumstances from a talent point of view.

Atlanta (2004-2006)

Year Position Offense DVOA QB QB DVOA
2003 N/A -11.1% (24th) Johnson -11.1% (29th)
2004 OC -9.4% (24th) Vick -31.4% (37th)
2005 OC 2.5% (12th) Vick -10.7% (29th)
2006 OC 0.0% (16th) Vick -20.1% (38th)
2007 N/A -15.5% (27th) Harrington -5.8% (29th)

The "before and after" years aren't actually much help here in providing context, as Vick saw significant time in neither of them, whereas he played almost every game in Knapp's tenure. Knapp took over a bad offense which was still bad in his first year before improving to average in his second and third. As in San Francisco, he then got the boot as the team brought in a monumentally incompetent college coach to oversee a total clusterm'kay. Subjectively, I always felt that it was a mistake to try to shoehorn Vick into a West Coast offense to which he was manifestly unsuited, and a fair part of the blame for that has to fall on Knapp (though they did experiment with some college option stuff in 2006, which worked ok but not great). Fundamentally, though, I think Vick was always going to be a coach killer, and it's not as if Knapp's Atlanta units were anything resembling a disaster. Overall, I'd consider his time in Atlanta a slight negative, particularly with regards to his flexibility.

Oakland (2007-2008)

Year Position Offense DVOA QB QB DVOA
2006 N/A -36.5% (32nd) Walter -45.6% (46th)
2007 OC -17.4% (28th) Culpepper -4.9% (27th)
2008 OC -21.3% (31st) Russell -16.0% (34th)
2009 N/A -22.4% (30th) Russell -57.2% (45th)

Honestly, I'm not sure anyone can conclude much of anything from anything that happens in Oakland. That franchise will continue to be a catastrophe as long as Crazy Al the Lich King is in charge. In Knapp's first year, the offense took a big step forward from "inhumanly awful" to "really bad", but that could well be simply because even semi-washed up post-injury Culpepper is a huge improvement over Andrew Walter. If you thought Jamarcus Russell was a good prospect, maybe you blame Knapp somewhat for not developing him. Personally, I thought he was highly likely to be a colossal bust before he was drafted, and certain to be so once his ticket was punched for the Black Hole of Suck. It may or may not be noteworthy that under Knapp in 2008, Russell was merely pretty bad, where in 2009 he was historically awful - another season like that and he may pass Ryan Leaf to claim the title "Biggest Bust of All Time" (and I'm not talking man-boobs). Neither Culpepper nor Russell was a good fit for a West Coast offense, most of the rest of the offensive personnel (especially the receivers) were terrible - I just don't think there's much of interest to be drawn from this phase of Knapp's career.

Seattle (2009)

Year Position Offense DVOA QB QB DVOA
2008 N/A -9.7% (26th) Wallace 7.3% (19th)
2009 OC -17.9% (29th) Hasselbeck -21.1% (34th)

The Seahawks may not be permanent no-hopers, but they certainly are in a rebuilding phase. As bad as a banged-up Hasselbeck was in 2009, he was considerably worse in the half-season he played in 2008. The once-vaunted offensive line has crumbled: Walter Jones in particular is a shell of his former self. John Carlson is a fine tight end, but the receiving and running back groups are pitiful. This unit was bad because the talent was terrible - I don't think scheme or coaching really had much to do with it.

Conclusions

When given good personnel who fit his system, Knapp has run excellent offenses. He also appears to have done a very good job developing Jeff Garcia. He has produced improvement over the previous season in his first year in three out of four stints as offensive co-ordinator. However, there is a suspicion that he is unwilling to adapt his system to suit his team's talent, and he is not so brilliant an offensive mind as to be able to get good or even solid performances out of truly talent-starved units. However, he is coming to a team that runs a system very similar to his own, with offensive talent that resembles the 2001-2002 49ers far more closely than it does the 2004-2006 Falcons, never mind the 2007-2008 Raiders or the 2009 Seahawks. I believe Knapp probably deserves another shot as an offensive co-ordinator in the NFL, on a team with players suited to the system, and as such I am very happy to have him on board, be it as a pure QB coach or a de facto passing game co-ordinator. I'm with you on this: hard to see how the coaching hires this off-season could have gone much better.

Posted by: Mr Shush at January 28, 2010 @ www.chron.com

It shows some very clear signs of his ability to improve a QB's performance during his SF years but hardly the case once he leaves that organization. If nothing else, he's got tons of experience in a similar system and with both Kubiak and Dennison above him it still seems like an excellent hire for a position coach.
 
The Seattle offense was awful when they rolled into town last year. I think I tweeted that I haven't seen a NFL team that bad, live up close, in a while...My mind is open on this but at first knee-jerking glance it's kinda scary.
 
The Seattle offense was awful when they rolled into town last year. I think I tweeted that I haven't seen a NFL team that bad, live up close, in a while...My mind is open on this but at first knee-jerking glance it's kinda scary.

Seattle doesn't really have any playmakers. T.J. Houshmandzadeh is not a #1 WR (He lacks top end speed and works better as a #2 possession receiver...like Kevin Walter) and Matt Hasselbeck is a shell of his former self due to injury. The offensive line was horrible and their wasn't much of a running game either. There wasn't a whole lot to work with out there, that team needs to be blown up and rebuilt.
 
The Seattle offense was awful when they rolled into town last year. I think I tweeted that I haven't seen a NFL team that bad, live up close, in a while...My mind is open on this but at first knee-jerking glance it's kinda scary.

not since.......



2005. Gulp. Pendry and Carr's collaboration with Victor Riley at the gate?
 
Prior to the Dennison hire, there was some talk that we would have difficulty filling these positions, the OC & QB coach.

I wonder what does this say about our situation, that we filled them both with very good, well qualified replacements.

I'm looking at both hires as an upgrade.
 
I like that Kubiak hired a guy for Matt and not for himself. Seattle's offense last year was disturbingly pathetic...
That had as much to do with personnel, as anything. How many Seahawks skill players start for the Texans?
...but I think we've upgraded with Dennison/Knapp over Lil Shanny.
I know there's more experience now. That can't be a bad thing.
I wonder what does this say about our situation, that we filled them both with very good, well qualified replacements.
Probably says more about their options available. Dennison wasn't getting a coordinator title from anyone but the Texans. Knapp isn't coming off a successful season. Their value will increase if they can help take the Texans offense to the next level.
 
Gary Kubiak has completed his coaching staff by hiring Marc Lubick as an offensive assistant.

Lubick, 32, is the son of former Colorado State coach Sonny Lubick. He coached tight ends and was recruiting coordinator at Colorado State.

Lubick replaces Matt LaFleur, who followed offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan to Washington.

Before returning to Colorado State, Lubick spent five years as a scouting assistant and receivers coach with the St. Louis Rams. He’ll work with two new coaches, offensive coordinator Rick Dennison and quarterbacks coach Greg Knapp.

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