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Ali4Real

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The Texans were blown out :cry2:by the Steelers in there season opener, here are some facts and things I noticed:

Passing Yards - 202

Rushing Yards - 75

Total yards - 277

1st Downs - 19

TOs - 3

Pen./Pen. Yards - 5/43

*Info. according to Yahoo Sports*


Things I noticed:

1.) DBs sucked. Reeves was horrible and had a BIG cushion against his WR.

2.) Casey Hampton got the best of our "undersized" O-linemen.

3.) We such against the blitz, we NEED to work on this.

4.) Zach Diles and DeMeco Ryans were great with a combined 25 tackles.

5.) Mario Williams was a best w/ 4 tackles and 2 sacks on Big Ben.

6.) Was Amobi Okoye even on the field b/c he didn't do anything special!


What are ur thoughts?
 
Here's my post-game analysis:

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Ali4Real said:
1.) DBs sucked. Reeves was horrible and had a BIG cushion against his WR.

What are ur thoughts?
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The only point I disagree with. The problem corner today was Bennett. Hines Ward took the boy to school. Reeves overall played a decent game, seemed to play tight on his coverage, and I even spotted him once looking back for the ball, which in Pre-Season concerned me.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
The only point I disagree with. The problem corner today was Bennett. Hines Ward took the boy to school. Reeves overall played a decent game, seemed to play tight on his coverage, and I even spotted him once looking back for the ball, which in Pre-Season concerned me.
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You saw it as I did.
 
Ali4Real said:
The Texans were blown out :cry2:by the Steelers in there season opener, here are some facts and things I noticed:

Passing Yards - 202

Rushing Yards - 75

Total yards - 277

1st Downs - 19

TOs - 3

Pen./Pen. Yards - 5/43

*Info. according to Yahoo Sports*


Things I noticed:

1.) DBs sucked. Reeves was horrible and had a BIG cushion against his WR.

2.) Casey Hampton got the best of our "undersized" O-linemen.

3.) We such against the blitz, we NEED to work on this.

4.) Zach Diles and DeMeco Ryans were great with a combined 25 tackles.

5.) Mario Williams was a best w/ 4 tackles and 2 sacks on Big Ben.

6.) Was Amobi Okoye even on the field b/c he didn't do anything special!


What are ur thoughts?
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Our LBs were so busy trying to cover the run.............they were all but non-existent as the "2nd line of defense" BEHIND the DL with dump passes or passes just past the LOS. It was always the secondary that eventually and I mean eventually engaged.........and that wasn't by design which was also nonexistent.
 
FirstTexansFan said:
The only point I disagree with. The problem corner today was Bennett. Hines Ward took the boy to school. Reeves overall played a decent game, seemed to play tight on his coverage, and I even spotted him once looking back for the ball, which in Pre-Season concerned me.
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I agree. Reeves did decent.

The breakdown was in the middle of the field. Linebackers, linemen, on Ward? Give me a break.
 
Bottom line the Texans sucked today. Hopefully Schaub will shake this off and the ZBS will get better (God help us).

With all that said I'm going to whine a little and be a poor sportsman:

THEY WERE DESTINED TO LOSE THE WAY THEY PLAYED, BUT WHAT F'ING GAME WERE THE OFFICIALS WATCHING. ALMOST EVERY BIG RUN BY PARKER IN THE FIRST HALF WAS THE RESULT OF HOLDING. FOR SOME REASON WHEN THE STEELERS HELD IT WAS INVISABLE.

ALSO ON ONE OF THE INT'S BY SCHAUB THE STEELERS DAMN NEAR TACKLED THE TEXAN THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE TACKLE.

It seems some teams like KC and PIT are just allowed to hold. If the Texans could get away with as much holding who'd need the damn ZBS.

I don't think there is some kind of comspiricy and I don't think the officials are corrupt, but sometimes it just can't be explained!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Big Lou said:
Bottom line the Texans sucked today. Hopefully Schaub will shake this off and the ZBS will get better (God help us).

With all that said I'm going to whine a little and be a poor sportsman:

THEY WERE DESTINED TO LOSE THE WAY THEY PLAYED, BUT WHAT F'ING GAME WERE THE OFFICIALS WATCHING. ALMOST EVERY BIG RUN BY PARKER IN THE FIRST HALF WAS THE RESULT OF HOLDING. FOR SOME REASON WHEN THE STEELERS HELD IT WAS INVISABLE.

ALSO ON ONE OF THE INT'S BY SCHAUB THE STEELERS DAMN NEAR TACKLED THE TEXAN THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE TACKLE.

It seems some teams like KC and PIT are just allowed to hold. If the Texans could get away with as much holding who'd need the damn ZBS.

I don't think there is some kind of comspiricy and I don't think the officials are corrupt, but sometimes it just can't be explained!!!!!!!!!!!
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Holding. Yeah that's it.
 
We just played a very superior team today.

No analysis needed.

Everyone not named Mario Williams and Andre Johnson was a non-factor today.
 
Big Lou said:
Bottom line the Texans sucked today. Hopefully Schaub will shake this off and the ZBS will get better (God help us).

With all that said I'm going to whine a little and be a poor sportsman:

THEY WERE DESTINED TO LOSE THE WAY THEY PLAYED, BUT WHAT F'ING GAME WERE THE OFFICIALS WATCHING. ALMOST EVERY BIG RUN BY PARKER IN THE FIRST HALF WAS THE RESULT OF HOLDING. FOR SOME REASON WHEN THE STEELERS HELD IT WAS INVISABLE.

ALSO ON ONE OF THE INT'S BY SCHAUB THE STEELERS DAMN NEAR TACKLED THE TEXAN THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE TACKLE.

It seems some teams like KC and PIT are just allowed to hold. If the Texans could get away with as much holding who'd need the damn ZBS.

I don't think there is some kind of comspiricy and I don't think the officials are corrupt, but sometimes it just can't be explained!!!!!!!!!!!
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right. you guys lost because of holding.... gimme a friggin break. at least accept your arse whipping like a man! you KNEW this was going to happen. it's amazing how people can still make excuses after a good ol' fashion shalacking like that.
 
that was absolutely the mosty piss poor prepared team to enter a season and I would have to say we put Houston High School on the feild and the they put the steelers and the second team steelers on the feild.

I am stating now that I retract the stand behind Schaub and say he is not a NFL starter

Where was Sage and why Gary did you not try to win the game today

Coaching gets an F

Defense (except for Mario and thats that) F

Offense gets F and Coach get another F for this mistake.

If you can substitute fumbleitis Jones for Andre Davis on the return

Why do you not substitute interseption Shaub for Sage.

Horrible coaching job altogether get FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, Get it together by next week coaches or some heads are gonna roll.
 
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FirstTexansFan said:
The only point I disagree with. The problem corner today was Bennett. Hines Ward took the boy to school. Reeves overall played a decent game, seemed to play tight on his coverage, and I even spotted him once looking back for the ball, which in Pre-Season concerned me.
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Bennett got smacked around a lot today. Hines Ward was laughing at him most of the afternoon. It almost looked like the Steelers intentionally ignored Reeves for a while and concentrated on showing us that our "#1" sucked just as bad as our Dallas retread. He lost his composure a couple of times during the game.

Of course so many of our guys looked so lousy that it was hard for anyones bad game in particular to stand out.
 
I liked that we went for it on 4th and 1. We should have at least got another set of downs. Piss poor officiating on that spot.

Schaub made some poor decisions. He needs to correct this. Any chance of us winning went down the drain when he threw the INT's.

Demeco and Mario is the only defensive players that showed up today.

Green made it through 1 game healthy! How about that? lol

I still don't see what CC Brown does as far as coverage but he does play the run decent.

Any team that utilizes the TE as a weapon in their offense will give the Texans problems as long as we have our current LB corps(other than Demeco) and CC Brown.


Daniels took a good hit and was still able to hold on to the ball.

We played a Super Bowl contender in my opinion and while I was expecting to come out of this game with a loss I was at least thinking that it would be a close game. That being said it's nice to get this one out of the way and with no major injuries....this game can only make us stronger from here on out. That being said we play a good defensive team next week but their offense is not as potent as the Steelers.
 
Hervoyel said:
Bennett got smacked around a lot today. Hines Ward was laughing at him most of the afternoon. It almost looked like the Steelers intentionally ignored Reeves for a while and concentrated on showing us that our "#1" sucked just as bad as our Dallas retread. He lost his composure a couple of times during the game.
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That was true which makes it really sad. I don't know what to think of Bennett right now. There's been plenty of players around the league that had a great rookie year and then went on to be average for the rest of their career. One that pops in my mind is, Michael Clayton of Tampa Bay. We might've jumped the gun on Fred Bennett.
 
Big Lou said:
Bottom line the Texans sucked today. Hopefully Schaub will shake this off and the ZBS will get better (God help us).

With all that said I'm going to whine a little and be a poor sportsman:

THEY WERE DESTINED TO LOSE THE WAY THEY PLAYED, BUT WHAT F'ING GAME WERE THE OFFICIALS WATCHING. ALMOST EVERY BIG RUN BY PARKER IN THE FIRST HALF WAS THE RESULT OF HOLDING. FOR SOME REASON WHEN THE STEELERS HELD IT WAS INVISABLE.

ALSO ON ONE OF THE INT'S BY SCHAUB THE STEELERS DAMN NEAR TACKLED THE TEXAN THAT WAS TRYING TO MAKE THE TACKLE.

It seems some teams like KC and PIT are just allowed to hold. If the Texans could get away with as much holding who'd need the damn ZBS.

I don't think there is some kind of comspiricy and I don't think the officials are corrupt, but sometimes it just can't be explained!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anybody remember the Steelers beating the Seahawks in the Superbowl? Wrestling puts on a better performance. Its a wonder we treat this serious.
 
My analysis of this game . . . it turned out just as I expected . . . a blow out!

So, why didn't I state that in the prediction thread? I get called a negative nellie already, and those "go with my heart" prediction threads are just pathetic.

But based upon their performance in the preseason, this game's result was no surprise to me at all.

Whether you blame Richard Smith, the lack of talent, Kubiak, global warming, or my dog Spot . . . until we disrupt the QB . . . we SUCK!
 
Marcus said:
My analysis of this game . . . it turned out just as I expected . . . a blow out!

So, why didn't I state that in the prediction thread? I get called a negative nellie already, and those "go with my heart" prediction threads are just pathetic.

But based upon their performance in the preseason, this game's result was no surprise to me at all.

Whether you blame Richard Smith, the lack of talent, Kubiak, global warming, or my dog Spot . . . until we disrupt the QB . . . we SUCK!
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I'm gonna miss Spot :)
 
J-Russ said:
That was true which makes it really sad. I don't know what to think of Bennett right now. There's been plenty of players around the league that had a great rookie year and then went on to be average for the rest of their career. One that pops in my mind is, Michael Clayton of Tampa Bay. We might've jumped the gun on Fred Bennett.
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And if we did then we're in for a long 6-8 weeks waiting on Dunta to return.

I thought John McClain of the Chronic pretty much nailed it on the grades. Everybody got an F except for the DL which got a D thanks to Mario's effort. The rest of them were just about worthless.

Schaub's interceptions today were very worrisome to me. I don't exactly know how to explain this but I think you'll all understand what I mean when I say that sometimes a QB "gets picked off" and other times he "throws an interception". In the first one a defender makes an excellent play on the ball and managed to make a turnover out of what seemed to be and should probably have been a good play. In the second the QB throws something really crappy out there right into a defender.

One is a great play to the defenders credit and the other is like a gift wrapped present from the QB to the other team. Today Schaub threw a couple of nicely wrapped presents and tried to keep on giving. He's got a bad habit of attempting ill advised throws that bothers me. Don't get me wrong, Sage does the same damn thing. It's just that when Schaub is off and doing this we have no chance at all of landing in the "W" column.

I am worried about it because we have no running game and I keep reading where people say that we are and should be a pass-first team because of that. I can find no fault in that except that I think we have a couple of QB's who are effective best on a run-first team. They have to have the running game working to be able to get things cooking with the play action passes. These guys aren't going to drop back and pick people apart for very long without the threat of a running game. With that threat they're capable of getting on a roll and doing some major damage. We've seen both of them do that in the past.

We must have a running game and it has to be not only credible but even borderline dominant. We are in deep doo-doo without one.
 
Schaub didn't surprise me today..I fully knew he was capable of games like this...When teams are pressuring him and our recievers don't get seperation he tends to start forcing things....that said...

I don't see one thread, and I really haven't seen one comment....

About the terrible play of the O-line, mainly our rookie LT...

Duane Brown was schooled...
 
Hervoyel said:
Schaub's interceptions today were very worrisome to me. I don't exactly know how to explain this but I think you'll all understand what I mean when I say that sometimes a QB "gets picked off" and other times he "throws an interception". In the first one a defender makes an excellent play on the ball and managed to make a turnover out of what seemed to be and should probably have been a good play. In the second the QB throws something really crappy out there right into a defender.
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Schaub needs to settle down. Forcing those throws was horrible. He looked like he was not seeing the whole field. Other guys were more open on his errant passes. But that doesn't even touch on his bad accuracy.
 
DBCooper said:
Schaub needs to settle down. Forcing those throws was horrible. He looked like he was not seeing the whole field. Other guys were more open on his errant passes. But that doesn't even touch on his bad accuracy.
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On his first interception, Andre was wide open ten yards further up the field....I want to thank DirectTV for my fine ability to slow mo on the DVR, good job guys ;)
 
Polo said:
About the terrible play of the O-line, mainly our rookie LT...

Duane Brown was schooled...
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He's a rookie and played like one. DC Dick Lebeau knew to attack him and to keep on attacking him, relentlessly. This is what real DCs do.
 
Hervoyel said:
Bennett got smacked around a lot today. Hines Ward was laughing at him most of the afternoon. It almost looked like the Steelers intentionally ignored Reeves for a while and concentrated on showing us that our "#1" sucked just as bad as our Dallas retread. He lost his composure a couple of times during the game.

Of course so many of our guys looked so lousy that it was hard for anyones bad game in particular to stand out.
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J-Russ said:
That was true which makes it really sad. I don't know what to think of Bennett right now. There's been plenty of players around the league that had a great rookie year and then went on to be average for the rest of their career. One that pops in my mind is, Michael Clayton of Tampa Bay. We might've jumped the gun on Fred Bennett.
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aaaaaahhh!!!!! the sky is falling!!!!

the kid had one bad game so we're going to forget all his good games so far and just assign him to the bust heap.. my god
 
Texan JBZ said:
He's a rookie and played like one. DC Dick Lebeau knew to attack him and to keep on attacking him, relentlessly. This is what real DCs do.
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He wasn't "attacked"...

He was beat one on one several times...
 
Polo said:
Schaub didn't surprise me today..I fully knew he was capable of games like this...When teams are pressuring him and our recievers don't get seperation he tends to start forcing things....that said...

I don't see one thread, and I really haven't seen one comment....

About the terrible play of the O-line, mainly our rookie LT...

Duane Brown was schooled...
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I don't care what kind of pressure was in Schuab face, you never throw a ball to a receiver when that reciever is cover front AND back by a defender. I mean for god sakes Lamar Woodley was right in front of our receiver on that first int.

You always have another option, and one of them is to throw it away. The second option is to take a sack and I rather him do that then make an absurd throw like that with the coverage.

Edit: random quote. We both agree on the forcing things when pressured.
 
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Maddict5 said:
aaaaaahhh!!!!! the sky is falling!!!!

the kid had one bad game so we're going to forget all his good games so far and just assign him to the bust heap.. my god
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Bennett isn't a number one corner...

Didn't see much today that I really didn't expect...
 
FirstTexansFan said:
On his first interception, Andre was wide open ten yards further up the field...
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I saw that, too. Clearly, he's feeling the rush. It's not going to get any easier with the Ravens, Titans, and Jags coming up. Kubiak should consider some max protect plays until Schaub settles down.
 
it all went downhill after kubiak went for it on 4th and a foot. granted you would think we could get that foot but we are the texans. dont know why he handed the steelers the big MO in there house. oh well. it's just one game . baltimore is 1-0 though. here's to home field advantage
 
Not only are the Steelers a more talented team than we are, we showed up sucking wind from the get go. A classic mismatch. Get real folks, the Texans are not a playoff team yet. We do have talent but just aren't there yet. I'm looking for Kubiak to pull a rabbit out of his hat and we'll be 1-1 to start that horrible two game road trip.
 
ATXtexanfan said:
it all went downhill after kubiak went for it on 4th and a foot. granted you would think we could get that foot but we are the texans. dont know why he handed the steelers the big MO in there house. oh well. it's just one game . baltimore is 1-0 though. here's to home field advantage
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That is another play I've reviewed over and over. Can't tell from the camera angle where Schaub ended up, but, what I do see, is the ref on the far side clearly has it marked ahead of the sticks, while the ref on this side, the side we're unable to determine Schaub's progress, short of the sticks. Who marks the ball? The guy on this side. Clearly he was unable from his position to determine a proper mark. Not that I feel it makes one hill of beans to the outcome of the game, we were clearly outplayed.
 
Goldensilence said:
You mean.... a DC takes into consideration match ups and can take advantage of them?
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What match-ups should our D-coordinator have taken advantage of ?

Bennet against Ward ?
Reeves on Holmes ?
Diles on Miller ?

Greenwood on Willie Parker ?
Weaver on anyone ?

Where exactly are all these match-ups to be taken advantage of ?

What is an area of strength for our defense ?

Speed ?
Power?
Experience?

What can our guys do well that we can use to exploit opposing offenses ?
 
Lucky said:
I saw that, too. Clearly, he's feeling the rush. It's not going to get any easier with the Ravens, Titans, and Jags coming up. Kubiak should consider some max protect plays until Schaub settles down.
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Not with the dreaded two yard slants to Andre and dump-offs to the RB du jour, I hope.
 
Maddict5 said:
aaaaaahhh!!!!! the sky is falling!!!!

the kid had one bad game so we're going to forget all his good games so far and just assign him to the bust heap.. my god
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I did no such thing and I get very tired of other fans trying to tell me what I'm saying. Is there some kind of satisfaction that I'm not aware of that you guys get from standing back and pointing at other fans and proclaiming that THEY are chicken little's?

It's possible that he's not ready to go yet and that last year he played a little over his head. He had Dunta for most of it and then he had to go as the #1 but didn't get as much attention since Petey was so much fun to tear apart. I'm just saying (and I suspect J-Russ is in agreement) that maybe Bennett's just not ready to be the #1.
 
Hervoyel said:
I did no such thing and I get very tired of other fans trying to tell me what I'm saying. Is there some kind of satisfaction that I'm not aware of that you guys get from standing back and pointing at other fans and proclaiming that THEY are chicken little's?

It's possible that he's not ready to go yet and that last year he played a little over his head. He had Dunta for most of it and then he had to go as the #1 but didn't get as much attention since Petey was so much fun to tear apart. I'm just saying (and I suspect J-Russ is in agreement) that maybe Bennett's just not ready to be the #1.
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umm not really (around 3 weeks?) but anyway.

hes a good cb. he didnt become a bad cb last night which is what both of ye were implying. generally good tackler and usually has tight coverage and can play the ball too. however hes still only started around 10 games so hes going to get beaten sometimes especially when he comes up against great wrs like hines ward. thats it its that simple. you dont have to label him and it doesnt have to be boom or bust and i think its very shortsighted to say a guy (especially one so young and inexperienced) isnt a #1 corner because one of the best wrs (and def the most physical) got the better of him
 
Bennett is just not a number one corner.

With a Dunta on the field he's a better player.

I think the entire defense is better with Dunta on the field though..
 
The thing I noticed - the team played with no heart.

The first drive was looking good, clicking - then missed the 4th and 1. After that - seems they let one bad play build onto another and there were a few players that were trying to turn it - but for the most part, looks like they were waiting for someone else to make the big play.

No one tried to psych the team up, very few helped others up after a big pile up, there was no interaction... they were just going through the motions.

Like they play in preseason - translates to the season. Yes, preseason scores don't translate, but the way it's played - especially with starters, does.
 
for the first time I fear that Kubiak & staff do not or cannot make adjustments in their game planning. clearly the pocket was unstable, the running game going nowhere yet they left the status quo game plan in place even with the game out of reach, endagering key starters like Andre Johnson for no positive vindication only possible injury.

if the Texans want to win more games they have to adjust to the conditions on the field that day. Sage is a much more mobile QB, the pocket needed to stay fluid with alot more play action, roll outs & deep aggressive long balls to some outside speed. I'm not convinced the Texans don't have the talent but rather are held back by rigid, conservative, out of loyalty playcalling :nicedog:
 
OzzO said:
The thing I noticed - the team played with no heart.
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My thoughts as well.


I'm thinking that the biggest thing a new d-coordinator can do for us is give the guys more swagger and tenacity about themselves......

I don't see Weaver, Greenwood, or Reeves becoming more aggressive or physical though...
 
Maddict5 said:
umm not really (around 3 weeks?) but anyway.

hes a good cb. he didnt become a bad cb last night which is what both of ye were implying. generally good tackler and usually has tight coverage and can play the ball too. however hes still only started around 10 games so hes going to get beaten sometimes especially when he comes up against great wrs like hines ward. thats it its that simple. you dont have to label him and it doesnt have to be boom or bust and i think its very shortsighted to say a guy (especially one so young and inexperienced) isnt a #1 corner because one of the best wrs (and def the most physical) got the better of him
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So how am I "labeling him" by saying that maybe he's just not ready to be a #1? How do you read what I'm writing and come to the conclusion that I'm saying he's either a boom or a bust? Do I have to quantify everything I type for you with a "I'm talking about right now, not the future. Just today, in his second season and without much help" so you get what I'm saying?

Jeez.
 
Hervoyel said:
So how am I "labeling him" by saying that maybe he's just not ready to be a #1? How do you read what I'm writing and come to the conclusion that I'm saying he's either a boom or a bust? Do I have to quantify everything I type for you with a "I'm talking about right now, not the future. Just today, in his second season and without much help" so you get what I'm saying?

Jeez.
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yes that was what you said in your 2nd post..

hoowever i responded o your first post where you implied he sucked as bad as reeves because of this one bad game...no?
 
Polo said:
What match-ups should our D-coordinator have taken advantage of ?

Bennet against Ward ?
Reeves on Holmes ?
Diles on Miller ?

Greenwood on Willie Parker ?
Weaver on anyone ?

Where exactly are all these match-ups to be taken advantage of ?

What is an area of strength for our defense ?

Speed ?
Power?
Experience?

What can our guys do well that we can use to exploit opposing offenses ?
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Good luck with that one, Polo. Very, very good questions.

They all have it intrenched their minds that it's all about scheme and matchups, but when you ask for specifics . . .
 
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