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Gado Waived

Vinny

Vinny

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I wondered how he even made the team....now it's official - the Morency trade was an awful one.
The Texans placed running back Samkon Gado on waivers today.

To replace Gado, they've moved practice squad running back Joe Echemandu to the active roster.

Coach Gary Kubiak said Monday the Texans planned to sign a quarterback today to be placed on the practice squad. They're expected to sign Shane Boyd to fill Echemandu's spot on the practice squad.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5238653.html
 
Vinny said:
I wondered how he even made the team....now it's official - the Morency trade was an awful one.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/5238653.html
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I wouldn't say it was awful. It was definetely not a beneficial trade to say the least. Morency has been hurt quite often for the Pack and they are the only team that has a worse yds/game rushing than we do.

IMO, the trade didn't hurt or help us. Having said that, I'm freaking willing to try anything at this point.:gun:
 
This shows what they think of Walker and Zabransky.....not very much. Walker got beat out by a guy who came in the middle of the season. ouch.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
It's not like he palyed well when he was healty.

I'm interested in what Echemandu can do, hope he actually gets some time.
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Kubes said on radio yesterday that Echemandou had a leg up as he has been on field more as a veteran. When we make a mistake (Gado) we fix it even if it takes forever. I like this move.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
It's not like he palyed well when he was healty.

I'm interested in what Echemandu can do, hope he actually gets some time.
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I don't know what you are looking at because when I watch both backs it looks like one has a place in the league somewhere and one looks like a budding doctor who is looking to finish medical school.
 
Vinny said:
I don't know what you are looking at because when I watch both backs it looks like one has a place in the league somewhere and one looks like a budding doctor who is looking to finish medical school.
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I saw two guys.

That's about it. I didn't think either was anywhere near being the answer at RB.
 
badboy said:
Kubes said on radio yesterday that Echemandou had a leg up as he has been on field more as a veteran. When we make a mistake (Gado) we fix it even if it takes forever. I like this move.
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I heard what he said too. It sounded like Kubiak like Echo a little more because he knew that he could contribute to Special Teams. He added that he thought Walker could as well, but Echo had experience on STs.:cool:
 
Man, Morency looked good to me...

I'm not sure what some of you were watching...

When they made the trade I was dumfounded...
 
Hoth-Boy said:
I saw two guys.

That's about it. I didn't think either was anywhere near being the answer at RB.
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You don't have to be "the answer" to be a productive NFL player....something Gado didn't look remotely close to being.
 
Shermans other pal center Flanagan should be right behind him, but of course that's just wishful thinking on my part.
 
HOU-TEX said:
I heard what he said too. It sounded like Kubiak like Echo a little more because he knew that he could contribute to Special Teams. He added that he thought Walker could as well, but Echo had experience on STs.:cool:
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You know, as bad as our running game has been I cannot imagine why special teams ability would even remotely factor into the decision to bring another back in.

If a running back had a little wiggle and could get us up close to a 100 yards per game average I'd bring him in if it meant I had to play special teams with 10 men.
 
Vinny said:
You don't have to be "the answer" to be a productive NFL player....something Gado didn't look remotely close to being.
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First off, I'm not a Gado fan or a Morency fan just a Texans fan (and I'm not trying to imply that anybody else is anything else).

But both are #2 RBs at best, probably #3 RBs on most rosters (as Gado was on our's and as Morency would probably have been) I can't get twisted over the results of trade that swaps on for the other, espically when the money involved is fairly low. I think Morency was given his shot to impress the coaches and he failed, and the same can be said of Gado.

Both are just guys to me.
 
I take this as a small glimmer of hope. Faint, but still a glimmer. I'll take any kind of change at this point. Heck, do SOMETHING even if it might be wrong... (There's a BR549 song in there somewhere)

I probably would have liked to have seen this done when Jameel Cook outrushed him, but hey, better late that never.
 
Interesting tid-bit on Shane Boyd:

solid athlete still learning to become a football player, Boyd was out of place at quarterback last season. Has the build and speed which lends one to believe he.ll be a running back, since possesses solid bal- carrying instincts. A developmental prospect that needs a lot of work yet a player that may offer big rewards for a team patient with him.
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2005/draft/players/65069.html

I wonder if Boyd will stick on the practice squad or if he is just Schuab insurance?
 
drewmar74 said:
I take this as a small glimmer of hope. Faint, but still a glimmer. I'll take any kind of change at this point. Heck, do SOMETHING even if it might be wrong... (There's a BR549 song in there somewhere)

I probably would have liked to have seen this done when Jameel Cook outrushed him, but hey, better late that never.
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does the opposite for me...it's depressing when the team can't see how worthless he is in camp and wait till halfway through the year to make a move.
 
Vinny said:
does the opposite for me...it's depressing when the team can't see how worthless he is in camp and wait till halfway through the year to make a move.
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I could see that. I just know that what we're seeing right now from the RB's is pretty terrible and even though I think they moved too slow, I'm at least glad that they finally did something.

It's kinda like being in the car with someone who pharts, locks the windows, and turns on the heater. You hate them for doing it, but you can still be glad when they roll the window down.

That sums up how I feel about this...
 
dtran04 said:
This shows what they think of Walker and Zabransky.....not very much. Walker got beat out by a guy who came in the middle of the season. ouch.
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There is a lesson in here about high hopes. Many fans think players are great as soon as they are associated with the team. Realistically they aren't always "hidden gems".
 
Vinny said:
does the opposite for me...it's depressing when the team can't see how worthless he is in camp and wait till halfway through the year to make a move.
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Unless I am missing something I think this also is linked to Scuab being dinged up. Boyd now takes a spot and Owen goes back a bit as emergency back up.
 
Morency is making contributions to a good, winning team. Gado couldn't get on the field for a bad, losing team. That's about all we need to know about that trade.
 
I don't think Morency would be the answer either.

I know nothing about the guy that they are bringing up to replace him, but I view this as a positive move. Whether this works out or not, you have to at least make moves to give other players a chance to show what they can do. Gado was never going to be a difference maker and wasn't even going to make the team next year, so it makes sense to put someone else out there to see what we have.

I hope the moves don't stop here. I know nothing about Chris White other than coaches quotes in the pre-season, but I would love for him to get a look at some serious playing time at center as well. I think he played some significant snaps at guard in the fourth quarter last week and did well. Bennett may still be very green, but I see no reason not to give him an opportunity to get more significant snaps at the other CB position. I think both Flanagan's and Faggins' play has been so poor, that we don't risk much by giving younger players some snaps.

Depending on how the next four or five games pan out, I think it makes sense to get Studdard, Frye and Diles all in the mix with significant play time in live action to see what we have. I don't think we should give up on the goal for a winning season, but as that benchmark becomes less of a possibility, you have to start thinking about the future of this franchise - as much as it stinks to say.

At the end of the day, we may learn that none of these guys are the answer, but at least we will have learned that this year instead of next year. As an alternative, maybe we get a glimpse of one or two guys that we can fit in as one of the missing peices to the puzzle, which will allow us to focus our efforts in the offseason and draft. Our hand was forced at WR, but I think getting some of these guys on the field showed us that this is not a need position for us any longer.
 
Vinny said:
does the opposite for me...it's depressing when the team can't see how worthless he is in camp and wait till halfway through the year to make a move.
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This is exactly how I feel. It's not like the guy was inconsistant or something...he never even showed flashes. I don't understand how he even got close to the field.
 
Spike said:
Depending on how the next four or five games pan out, I think it makes sense to get Studdard, Frye and Diles all in the mix with significant play time in live action to see what we have. I don't think we should give up on the goal for a winning season, but as that benchmark becomes less of a possibility, you have to start thinking about the future of this franchise - as much as it stinks to say.

At the end of the day, we may learn that none of these guys are the answer, but at least we will have learned that this year instead of next year. As an alternative, maybe we get a glimpse of one or two guys that we can fit in as one of the missing peices to the puzzle, which will allow us to focus our efforts in the offseason and draft. Our hand was forced at WR, but I think getting some of these guys on the field showed us that this is not a need position for us any longer.
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Diles backs up DeMeco...I think he is fine where he is. If the linemen don't practice as well as the starters I'm not in favor of playing them at the expense of sending our QB's to any more hospitals as well.
 
Vinny said:
If the linemen don't practice as well as the starters I'm not in favor of playing them at the expense of sending our QB's to any more hospitals as well.
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As long as the evaluation is correct and based on the right factors. I find it hard to believe that there is no one better than Flanagan. Almost as hard as it was to believe that McKinney and Flanagan were in a tight battle for the starting position in camp. When I consider all of the ballyhoo about Black when he signed, it is disappointing - though not surprising to me - that he isn't having a (positive) impact.
 
Runner said:
As long as the evaluation is correct and based on the right factors. I find it hard to believe that there is no one better than Flanagan. Almost as hard as it was to believe that McKinney and Flanagan were in a tight battle for the starting position in camp. When I consider all of the ballyhoo about Black when he signed, it is disappointing - though not surprising to me - that he isn't having a (positive) impact.
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That's true, McKinney has been outplaying Flanagan for a year now. Hard to believe it was a tough decision in camp....hopefully it was just lip service and respect to an aging vet. Black is playing on the special teams. I figured they would have him out there a bit more since Salaam seems to wear down considerably as the game progresses.
 
I kinda see the Morency-Gado trade in the Babin-Boulware category.

Texans were trying to get someone who would work with Sherman's stuff.

GB was trying to get a quick back to be a change of pace back to work with their new ZBS.

Morency is a really small dude, not much taller than me. Allegedly, he packed on 10 lbs of muscle this offseason in GB, an amount that sounded like it would slow him down because he was already very rocked up.

From what I understood, Morency was not happy with the new regime so they wanted to get rid of a disgruntlement.
 
BigBull17 said:
Who is this Boyd guy? Is he on our PSquad? If so, do you have a bio of him?
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I just ran across this and I thought it was a decent summary.

Shane Boyd QB, #9
Ht/Wt: 6-4 265, Team: Arizona Cardinals (Signed as UDFA by Tennessee in 2005), Current Status: 3rd String
College: Kentucky

BQB-Site's View: After stints with the Steelers (Cut in 2006) and Titans (Cut in 2005 after signing as an undrafted free agent), Shane Boyd is trying to stick with the Cardinals as a developmental quarterback. The Cardinals already have entrenched starter Matt Leinart and veteran backup Kurt Warner, so he will be competing with rookie Tony Korobi to make the team and get a chance to learn and stay on an NFL roster. A good athlete who has size and speed, Boyd maybe asked to convert to another position. For now he is in camp and competing. We believe he is a “Developmental Type” QB that needs to get snaps to improve. He may need to play in NFL Europa, AFL, or CFL to learn the position, because he did not start until late in his career at Kentucky. He has the size and arm strength of McNair, but he was very erratic in college. He was stuck behind Jared Lorenzen and playing baseball in the spring hurt him in his development. He has an extremely strong arm (Relief Pitcher) and can move for a “Big” man. Runs with good power for a quarterback, possesses excellent bulk for a quarterback and flashes the ability to break tackles. May be asked to lined up at receiver or running back, which he has experience doing in college. Has good versatility and can be used on Special Teams.

Strengths: Great Size, Mobile, Strong arm, and Team Player (Other Positions).
Weaknesses: Turnovers, Needs to Spread Ball Around, and Needs to Learn How to Slide or Get Out of Bounds When Running.
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