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M. Vick Possibly Running A Dog Fighting Ring

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Wouldn't be surprised to find out Clinton Portis has been to Vick's old house:

"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog," Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis told WAVY-TV in Virginia. "If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business."

When told that dog fighting is a felony, Portis replied, "It can't be too bad of a crime."

"You want to hunt down Mike Vick over fighting some dogs?," Portis told the television station. "I think people should mind their own business."

Portis said that dog fighting is more common than people think.

"I know a lot of back roads that have the dog fighting if you want to go see it," he said.

Link

Talk about minding your own business--Clinton should have stayed out of this one.
 
I can't believe Portis condones Dog Fighting.
What an idiotic thing to say. I hope the investigators find a way to link them to this if he's involved.

Just something to note though, is that the dog fighting thing seems to be blown a little out of proportion.

The "evidence" includes:
1. Prybar for prying apart dogs mouths
2. Some blood stains in a separate building

The comment that 60 dogs were malnourished and injured is not entirely true. According to Poindexter (the investigator), all the dogs except for 2 older ones were in good condition


If he is involved in dog fighting, I hope he gets busted. But I tihnk the media is jumping a little too quickly to conclusions
 
I can't believe Portis condones Dog Fighting.
What an idiotic thing to say. I hope the investigators find a way to link them to this if he's involved.

Just something to note though, is that the dog fighting thing seems to be blown a little out of proportion.

The "evidence" includes:
1. Prybar for prying apart dogs mouths
2. Some blood stains in a separate building

The comment that 60 dogs were malnourished and injured is not entirely true. According to Poindexter (the investigator), all the dogs except for 2 older ones were in good condition


If he is involved in dog fighting, I hope he gets busted. But I tihnk the media is jumping a little too quickly to conclusions

The part about dogs being mistreated is coming from the humain society and they are the ones who have been complaing for a long time about the residence, not the media. Placing blame on the media is what everyone does, some of rightfully deserved. But the I was misquoted and my comments were taken out of context is all bull. This one time I will defend the media for the covering and the pressure they are putting on the DA.

Do you have a link about the comments about only two dogs? I have never seen that anywhere I have read about this story.
 
Been a while but I thought I'd share this one with y'all.

how many times can ya open your mouth and insert your foot in one interview ? :gun:

http://video.msn.com/v/us/foxsports...?MSNHPHMA&fg=/nfl/stories/writers/Kevin+Hench



http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6836960?MSNHPHMA




I got a kick outa this quote ......

This is a more retributive exercise with the aim of adding just a sliver of anguish and misery to the otherwise great life of multi-millionaire jackass Clinton Portis, written on behalf of my dog Sam.
 
I was incredulous when I was reading that. I really can't believe it and I read the article a half hour ago. I don't feel the need to comment, really, but I guess I just did anyway.
 
A quarter of people polled said Portis was in the right to defend Vick.

I wish the poll had asked, "Is Clinton Portis a complete *****?"
 
I will refrain from making a comment because I would say something that was not PC and describe what kind of an ***** he really is.
 
I will refrain from making a comment because I would say something that was not PC and describe what kind of an ***** he really is.

I won't refrain. Portis is about as stupid as they come. I give him credit for being honest about believing that this really is no big deal. I know his agent or the team will make him backtrack and take back what he said, but it's out there. That's truly the way he feels and he's a complete imbicle for thinking that making animals kill each other is ok. What a fine representative of the Redskins he is.
 
this interview just shows the general lack of respect for law and order that a significant amount of American youth have especially in the inner cities. It is more important to not be a snitch and to 'keep it real' than be a positive member of society. For Portis to say that dog fighting isn't a big deal is just a total joke and shows his lack of intelligence.

Personally, I hope Vick spends 30 days in the hole for his involvement. These guys act like they are above the law and when they do get the finger pointed at them they act like the law is wrong. Screw that.
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2872929

NORFOLK, Va. -- A prosecutor, sheriff and investigators are scheduled to meet Monday to review evidence collected in the weeks since dogs and equipment associated with dog fighting were seized from a home owned by NFL star Michael Vick.

No charges have been filed in the case, but Surry County Commonwealth's Attorney Gerald Poindexter said Wednesday as many as six to 10 people could be involved.

Dog fighting is a felony in Virginia.

"I'm convinced from what I saw that dog fighting has occurred down there, but who was involved in it I don't know at this point," Poindexter said in a telephone interview, noting that he saw what looked like blood spatters in a room over a garage.

"We're going to find out."

The Atlanta Falcons quarterback has blamed relatives for taking advantage of his generosity and insisted he's rarely at the house -- even though he's the owner.

The people possibly involved include those who have lived or been on the premises and people who took care of the dogs and the property, Poindexter said.

Poindexter said what looked like blood spatters on the floor of a room over a garage were the "most suggestive evidence of dog fighting. There were blood splatters, and somebody would have to explain to me how you draw blood in the normal training of pit bulls."

He also said he was told there was a carpet with blood stains on it rolled up in a corner of a room downstairs, but he did not see that.

Poindexter said he and Surry County Sheriff Harold Brown called a meeting Monday with investigators from the State Police and animal control to summarize evidence and examine reports. He said he doubted the review would be finished in time to submit to a grand jury scheduled to convene Tuesday.

"I am not defending Mr. Vick at all, but I don't want to see us rush into a case prematurely," he said. "We are in the process of collecting evidence as best we can.

"It includes analyzing forensic evidence. It's not traditional. You can't go to the state sources that we usually have to do analysis of dog blood."

After the meeting, Poindexter said he and Brown will "try to decide where we're going. If it's necessary to call a special grand jury, we'll do that."

Brown did not immediately return a telephone message seeking comment. He was said to be out of the office Wednesday afternoon.

The case began in late April, when police conducting a drug investigation raided the house in rural Surry County and found dozens of dogs. They also found items associated with dog fighting, including a "pry bar" used to pry apart a dog's jaws.

Poindexter said the county seized some 60 dogs from the house. Several dogs had old scars, but by and large, the dogs appeared to be well-cared for, he said.

Vick is a registered breeder, so "the mere fact that he had a lot of dogs doesn't mean a whole lot," Poindexter said.

"If he's implicated in any way -- and I'm not saying he isn't, I would think that he is -- there are about 10 other people who, from what we know, have a much more regular contact with the property and the animals," the prosecutor said.

Vick has said he let a cousin, Davon Boddie, live at the house, and that he didn't know a large kennel on the property could be involved in a criminal activity.

Last week, the Daily Press of Newport News reported Vick has sold the house.

Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press
 
I won't refrain. Portis is about as stupid as they come. I give him credit for being honest about believing that this really is no big deal. I know his agent or the team will make him backtrack and take back what he said, but it's out there. That's truly the way he feels and he's a complete imbicle for thinking that making animals kill each other is ok. What a fine representative of the Redskins he is.

Already been done:

"Hours after making light of the possible crime in the television interview, Portis issued a statement late Monday through the Redskins.

'In the recent interview I gave concerning dog fighting, I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner,' the statement said."
Link

Kinda seems to ring hollow to me. How ignorant do you have to be to make comments like that? Truly unbelieveable.
 
There was also a treadmill and "rape stand" found on the property. If anyone thinks someone raises 60 or 70 pit bulls because they make lovely lap dogs, then all I can tell you is de nile ain't just a river in Egpyt.

As to Portis, let's just say in retrospect, I am glad that he wasn't our draft pick in 2002. :bat:

I also wonder about our own former DD and what he is doing with all those pit bulls in LA. It's time the DA there take a little visit out to his farm. I think it's time that our legislators get tough with Pit Bulls. These poor dogs are being misused and mistreated, all in the name of this sick blood sport. They also are known to turn at a moments notice and rip some kid to shreds, or even an adult. Frankly, as a dog lover I hate to say this, but it's time to outlaw any further breeding or even ownership of this dog, and let them become as close to extinct as is possible to occur over the next few decades.
 
Already been done:

"Hours after making light of the possible crime in the television interview, Portis issued a statement late Monday through the Redskins.

'In the recent interview I gave concerning dog fighting, I want to make it clear I do not take part in dog fighting or condone dog fighting in any manner,' the statement said."
Link

Kinda seems to ring hollow to me. How ignorant do you have to be to make comments like that? Truly unbelieveable.


Oh, well in that case. whew.

NOT. Does he think Americans are dumber than he is? The Redskins and the NFL made him say that. They wrote it for him. Are we really that dumb? I for one won't forget what he said. As far as I am concerned, he is human garbage. I say pour ribs and sauce over him and Vick and put them in a 10 foot high barbed wire steel enclosure with 70 of his pit bulls, and lock the door. Check back in a couple of days to see if any bones are left. I have NO use for either of these guys, and if the league had any balls or backbone, both would be suspended for at least one full year, if not for life.
 

It looks like they might not have enough evidence to connect Vick directly with the dog fighting aspect of this case.

While those of us with any common sense know that he was aware of it, proving it in a court of law is probably a different set of rules.

Although...the feds have no problem in asset forfeiture seizing grandma's house because her little Johnny grandson was selling crack out of it (without her knowing), so it'll be interesting to see how they proceed with this case.
 
A couple of quotes that came to mind about Clinton Portis.

Albert Einstein:

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.


Abraham Lincoln (attributed):

'Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
 
I dunno, but try as I might I can't find a soft spot in my heart for pit bulls.
Maybe its because I've seen too many lead stories on the 10PM News about some little kid gettin chewed up by one of them ?
If we were talking about cocker spaniels I might be up in arms to, but pit bulls ? I say the fewer the better.
 
I dunno, but try as I might I can't find a soft spot in my heart for pit bulls.
Maybe its because I've seen too many lead stories on the 10PM News about some little kid gettin chewed up by one of them ?
If we were talking about cocker spaniels I might be up in arms to, but pit bulls ? I say the fewer the better.

Ah, but the problem is that dog fighting doesn't lead to less pit bulls, the result is in fact the opposite. The people that engage in this horrible act aren't going out and finding these dogs on the street and making them fight until there are no more pit bulls left. They are breeding them, as Vick was, in order to have dogs to fight, thereby creating more pit bulls. Dog fighting actually provides a market for these dogs, which stimulates the supply. Eliminating this market would do more to reduce the pit bull population than just letting them fight to the death.
 
I dunno, but try as I might I can't find a soft spot in my heart for pit bulls.
Maybe its because I've seen too many lead stories on the 10PM News about some little kid gettin chewed up by one of them ?
If we were talking about cocker spaniels I might be up in arms to, but pit bulls ? I say the fewer the better.

Yes and 20 years ago it was rotts and 20 years before that it was German sheppards and Dobbermans. It is not the breed of the dog it is the owners and when people figure it out that all dogs can be vicious.

I have owned a Pit and the only thing dangerous about him was his farts. Unless you broke into my house or acted aggressive to a child near him. I have also owned a mutt and he was extremely aggressive. Some kind of lab mix. No clue why that has been the only real aggressive dog I have ever owned.
 
Intelligence always supercedes ignorance. I really enjoyed this article. Taken from foxsports.com.

My favorite part:

"When I think about pro athletes siccing dogs on one another it makes me consider rooting for catastrophic knee injuries.
But I guess I'm not that cruel. If, however, Portis missed another batch of games in '07 with his chronic shoulder problems, well, maybe it would be karma.
Anyone who flippantly condones animal cruelty deserves no better."


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6836960
 
Ah, but the problem is that dog fighting doesn't lead to less pit bulls, the result is in fact the opposite. The people that engage in this horrible act aren't going out and finding these dogs on the street and making them fight until there are no more pit bulls left. They are breeding them, as Vick was, in order to have dogs to fight, thereby creating more pit bulls. Dog fighting actually provides a market for these dogs, which stimulates the supply. Eliminating this market would do more to reduce the pit bull population than just letting them fight to the death.

You're a smooth talker TA, I'm impressed. And if what you say is accurate you've changed my mind. I say abolish dog fighting if that reduces the number of pit bulls.
 
Well, i'm not a pet person, a dog, cat or whatever is just an animal to me, so i really don't see a problem with what C-po said. :hides:
 
Well, i'm not a pet person, a dog, cat or whatever is just an animal to me, so i really don't see a problem with what C-po said. :hides:

Read the article. If you are a person with any morals there are several reasons, several texts, as to why you should think that animal fighting is wrong. It isn't the least bit ethical.
 
I wasn't going to say anything but I feel compelled to do so. BTW, I need to tell my wife she has company with an undying passion for dogs. Let me preface this by saying we have two dogs so I am not sure how this will sound. I could care less what anyone does with dogs or any pets in general. Good, bad or indifferent. I'm not about to vilify a person because they fight dogs nor praise them either. That is personal preference to me, nothing more. Do not preach to me about right and wrong. It is funny that our country makes a cuss about placing dogs (yes i said dogs) in harms way but is at peace with the decision our president is making with keeping troops in Iraq (placing our troops in harms way). This absolutely blows my mind both ways. Am I the only one that think this way? Please tell me no.
 
I wasn't going to say anything but I feel compelled to do so. BTW, I need to tell my wife she has company with an undying passion for dogs. Let me preface this by saying we have two dogs so I am not sure how this will sound. I could care less what anyone does with dogs or any pets in general. Good, bad or indifferent. I'm not about to vilify a person because they fight dogs nor praise them either. That is personal preference to me, nothing more. Do not preach to me about right and wrong. It is funny that our country makes a cuss about placing dogs (yes i said dogs) in harms way but is at peace with the decision our president is making with keeping troops in Iraq (placing our troops in harms way). This absolutely blows my mind both ways. Am I the only one that think this way? Please tell me no.

I'm going to have to say I don't wholeheartedly agree with dog fighting and it's definitely not something I'd do myself....

But I do agree with your last point about the troops....I think sometimes our thinking is bass ackward....
 
Dogs don't sign up to fight in the pit. They fight or they die, and never have a choice in the matter.

Bring the troops home.
 
I wasn't going to say anything but I feel compelled to do so. BTW, I need to tell my wife she has company with an undying passion for dogs.

My stance on the matter has nothing to do with a love for dogs. I believe that dogfighting is illegal and immoral. Am I wrong to presume that? I mean, there is a federal law against it.

Do not preach to me about right and wrong. It is funny that our country makes a cuss about placing dogs (yes i said dogs) in harms way but is at peace with the decision our president is making with keeping troops in Iraq (placing our troops in harms way). This absolutely blows my mind both ways. Am I the only one that think this way? Please tell me no.

The two sides shouldn't be brought up in any argument. Dog fighting and warfare are two very different things. Our country wasn't protected by dogs or founded on dogfighting. Michael Vick was very involved in an elaborate dogfighting buisness and that is against a federal law. I think that he should be punished for it. Also, Portis is condoning breaking the law. How could you not care when someone blatantly disregards the laws that all of us have to abide by?
 
I wasn't going to say anything but I feel compelled to do so. BTW, I need to tell my wife she has company with an undying passion for dogs. Let me preface this by saying we have two dogs so I am not sure how this will sound. I could care less what anyone does with dogs or any pets in general. Good, bad or indifferent. I'm not about to vilify a person because they fight dogs nor praise them either. That is personal preference to me, nothing more. Do not preach to me about right and wrong. It is funny that our country makes a cuss about placing dogs (yes i said dogs) in harms way but is at peace with the decision our president is making with keeping troops in Iraq (placing our troops in harms way). This absolutely blows my mind both ways. Am I the only one that think this way? Please tell me no.


To add on to the other comments as well, when it comes to the war in Iraq, the people were misled to believe the risks were worth the reward -- i.e., safety and security. Thats now become not only a farce but the unforeseen/unplanned occupation is strangling the military, and you will see the change within the polls. Every week more people turn against the occupation and it shows.

As for dogfighting..maybe there isn't much "risk" to people but the reward is even less (except for those engaging in it for profit). Most people that own dogs also form pretty strong social bonds as well...its pretty much evolved that way over the last...10,000+ years? I'm guessing on the number but I think that would be considered pretty conservative actually. He isn't called man's best friend for nothing and most people wouldn't sell their best friend to the arena.
 
My stance on the matter has nothing to do with a love for dogs. I believe that dogfighting is illegal and immoral. Am I wrong to presume that? I mean, there is a federal law against it.



The two sides shouldn't be brought up in any argument. Dog fighting and warfare are two very different things. Our country wasn't protected by dogs or founded on dogfighting. Michael Vick was very involved in an elaborate dogfighting buisness and that is against a federal law. I think that he should be punished for it. Also, Portis is condoning breaking the law. How could you not care when someone blatantly disregards the laws that all of us have to abide by?

You are making my point for me. They are two completely different things I couldn't agree more. What does that say about us as a society where we want swift harsh justice (without a trial nor charges) for dog fighting but shrug our shoulders when the leader of our country admits mistakes were made with Iraq and still continues to "defend freedom" and place lives in danger? Sorry but you point holds no weight. Portis is not condoning breaking the law he was expressing his opinion like you and I are. So because I don't have the same views as you I condone something. Give me a break.
 
Read the article. If you are a person with any morals there are several reasons, several texts, as to why you should think that animal fighting is wrong. It isn't the least bit ethical.

Well, I couldn't read the article it was gone, but i heard about what C-po said & know the circumstances around the Vick dog fighting ring situation. But i still stand by what i said b/c to me, there are so many other things to be appaulled (sp?) by that involve our fellow man..... like Kbourda is saying.

Is it wrong? hell yeah it is, i'm sure god would not want any of his creatures treated that way, but like someone brought up on 610 or 790 yesterday, horse racing in many ways is just as cruel to horses, yet it is seen in a completely different light by most people. I would venture to say that many of those people would consider themselves moral beings as well.

But then who are we kidding? this isn't a utopia of morality, it is more or less survival of the fittest, rich & poor, man & beast.
 
You are making my point for me. They are two completely different things I couldn't agree more. What does that say about us as a society where we want swift harsh justice (without a trial nor charges) for dog fighting but shrug our shoulders when the leader of our country admits mistakes were made with Iraq and still continues to "defend freedom" and place lives in danger? Sorry but you point holds no weight. Portis is not condoning breaking the law he was expressing his opinion like you and I are. So because I don't have the same views as you I condone something. Give me a break.

Fine, you made your political statement about Iraq (a war I never thought we should get in to the second time) but acting as if dog fighting is no big deal is just wrong IMO. And yes, Portis was condoning breaking the law.
 
horse racing in many ways is just as cruel to horses, yet it is seen in a completely different light by most people.

Wha....?! :um:

Last time I checked, the overwhelming majority of race horses survive their events.

Most pit fights end up with a dead dog, and the other one possibly severely injured.

Race horses are pampered like world class athletes, while fighting dogs are routinely starved and abused in order to make them meaner and tougher.

Most race horses are sold to horse lovers when they are too old to race (my dad has one). Fighting dogs are killed when they can fight no more, simply because they are not animals that can be trusted around people or other animals.

I could go on, but somehow don't think it matters when you've convinced yourself that a racing event is akin to a blood sport.
 
Wha....?! :um:

Last time I checked, the overwhelming majority of race horses survive their events.

Most pit fights end up with a dead dog, and the other one possibly severely injured.

Race horses are pampered like world class athletes, while fighting dogs are routinely starved and abused in order to make them meaner and tougher.

Most race horses are sold to horse lovers when they are too old to race (my dad has one). Fighting dogs are killed when they can fight no more, simply because they are not animals that can be trusted around people or other animals.

I could go on, but somehow don't think it matters when you've convinced yourself that a racing event is akin to a blood sport.


I didn't say i said it, someone on 610 or 790 said it; & in summary, what he was saying is that most of these prized horses are made to begin their training @ 18 months & are trained so hard, they can't even walk many times b/c their joints & bone structure is degenerated b/c they start so young. Jockeys & or trainers pump them full of all kinds of crap to get them stronger & faster for racing but for many of them who don't make it through all that, alot of the times they're just put down.

The guy seemed pretty knowledgeable, he was somewhere in that field, i forget what he said he did, but in any case, he likened it to dog fighting; sure it's not as brutal but the horses don't have a choice in the matter & for many the end result is death.

i myself am pretty much ignorant to the intracacies of the sport, i just brought it b/c i thought it was fairly interesting.

It was also brought up that the show :"real sports" on hbo did a peice on it recently.
 
let the man do what he wants to do with his dogs... there just dogs

I guess its just "animal abuse". I guess dogs ripping each other apart for sport is pretty cool and something we shouldn't look down upon.

It's funny that the way people treat their animals is usually a decent indicator of how they will treat their children...personally I find dog fighting despicable and have lost any respect I might have formerly had for the people that engage in or condone it.

When I envision animal abuse I picture it happening to any of the animals I've had over the course of my lifetime, and try to judge it from there. It really provides a better perspective on it. If any of these things happened to my dogs my retaliation would have me in prison for a very long time.
 
I guess its just "animal abuse". I guess dogs ripping each other apart for sport is pretty cool and something we shouldn't look down upon.

It's funny that the way people treat their animals is usually a decent indicator of how they will treat their children...personally I find dog fighting despicable and have lost any respect I might have formerly had for the people that engage in or condone it.

When I envision animal abuse I picture it happening to any of the animals I've had over the course of my lifetime, and try to judge it from there. It really provides a better perspective on it. If any of these things happened to my dogs my retaliation would have me in prison for a very long time.

HAHAHAHAHAH... comparing a dog to a human.. you cant be serious
 
Believe it or not I don't always make things up.

http://www.vospca.org/archive/abuse.html

Ground-breaking studies by psychiatrist Alan Felthous and others, indicate that many criminals that have been violent toward people share a common history of brutal parental punishment and cruelty to animals. Yet, even today, it is not unusual to find school and judicial systems in which animal abuse is not taken seriously.

This is especially disturbing since animal abuse not only can portend the potential for violence against humans, but it also maybe an indication of a family in trouble now. Research bears this out.

Recently, Deviney, Dickert, and Lockwood studied 57 families being treated by New Jersey's Division of Youth and Family Services for incidents of child abuse. In 88 percent of these families, animals in the home had also been abused, usually by the parent.

These findings are consistent with those of James Hutton who reviewed the animal cruelty reports for one community in England. Of the 23 families with a history of animal abuse, 83 percent had been identified by human social service agencies as having children at risk of abuse or neglect.
 
so now your sayin that i beat my kids? because i dont see dogs equal to humans.... but im tellin you that unlike some people i have everything up in my head....
 
so now your sayin that i beat my kids? because i dont see dogs equal to humans.... but im tellin you that unlike some people i have everything up in my head....

I'm not saying anything about you. I'm saying that the capacity to abuse animals (i.e. dogfighting) often correlates to an increased capacity to abuse children. It doesn't mean it happens in every case...just a trend. So when people are abusing animals or condoning the abuse, to me their level of compassion drops some.

It has more to do with the human race as a whole than any specific individual.

To add onto that...thats basically why most of society looks down on cruelty to animals. With alarming numbers like that, even if a person is indifferent about the animals abused, what it indicates about the abusers interactions with other people in the future should be enough to condemn it.
 
Is anyone watching Portis on NFLN? I think he came on here to do spin control but he sounds to me like he's spinning out of control.

Basically, he doesn't care if something's a felony. Even if Vick is fighting dogs and EVEN if it's illegal, he doesn't think it should be an issue because there are other more serious issues out there we as a society should be concentrating on. And if it's not OK to fight dogs, then people shouldn't be allowed to hunt. Vick is a good guy doing good things in the community and his life/career shouldn't be ruined over something silly like this.

BUT... he says he's not condoning* anything. He's not condoning dog fighting. He doesn't even have pets. Except for his fish.

* You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Inigo Montoya.
 
Folks I made some comments in this space based on a very emotional reaction to some comments made by a couple of posters, especially dunta23. Those comments were racist in nature, and do not represent my true views or character. I am sure there are plenty of white rednecks engaging in this sick sport as well. I have known many of you via this message board for a number of years, and I hope that in that time, those of you who have read my posts before realize the true nature of my character. I apoligize to my black friends on and off this board. I know MANY fine black people, as well as people of all races, and I get along great with all of those of other races. I made a terrible sweeping generalization, and I feel terrible about it. If I could take it all back, I would. With sincere apoligies,

Mark aka Porky
 
I'm just going to come right out and say this, and I don't give a rats ass what all you PC'ers or anyone else thinks about me. I could care two bits, so I don't care if all of you rip me to shreds, ban me for life, or anything else.

After seeing this thread, and seeing the comments made by players, it is clear to me this is a racial/cultural issue. The fact that blacks seem to be the only one condoning this despecible behavior says a lot to me about their culture, morals, and social mores. What a sick race of people. I would like to throw kbourda, and dunta23 in a ring with a few of these dogs and see what happens. You people literally make me ill. :bat: :bat: :bat:

Thanks for letting me know you're an ignorant racist. I like it when you point yourselves out. Makes it a lot easier.
 
Wow!!! So i guess b/c most famous serial killers are white, i can come to a sweeping generalization about white culture, morals & mores right?

I thought you were better than that porky.
 
Wow!!! So i guess b/c most famous serial killers are white, i can come to a sweeping generalization about white culture, morals & mores right?

I thought you were better than that porky.

His statement was just all around ignorant...
 
Thanks for letting me know you're an ignorant racist. I like it when you point yourselves out. Makes it a lot easier.

I'm neither my friend. Simply pointing out the obvious. Not saying all blacks condone this evilness, but all the people who seem ok with it happen to coincedently all be of one race. That's not racist, that's is pointing out the obvious. As I said, I don't give a rats ass what you think of me. Apparently, they have one sick culture. And, it's also nice to point themselves out, so I know who and who not to associate with.
 
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