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Live Press Conference At 11:30 Am

Matt saying that he will be the leader of the "team", not just the offense. I never once remember hearing that from DC. If he did, he may have been referring to only the offense.

This kid is new to the team and already wants to take charge. I like it. This may not go over well with the fans or may make him sound arrogant. But I think it will go a long way in a locker room that was already starting to divide.

J
 
I would expect a deal to already be in place or very close to it. otherwise it wouldn't get done today or tomorrow like smith alluded to...these things take time.

i would also hope that this FO didn't look at the acquiring of schaub and trading carr as 2 seperate events. Thats when we would get nothing for carr like many here are mentioning.
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You don't want to have one news item stepping over the other. If the deal is as close as it sounded, you let Schaub have his day and make the media tour and then announce the Carr trade tomorrow (since it is Friday, you would not want to announce on the weekend).
 
bikerack said:
You don't want to have one news item stepping over the other. If the deal is as close as it sounded, you let Schaub have his day and make the media tour and then announce the Carr trade tomorrow (since it is Friday, you would not want to announce on the weekend).
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I doubt Kubes will be getting dressed up again for that one. :)
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
Saw 20 minutes ago on ESPNews that Tuiasosopo (spelling?) has been traded.

Wasn't he with the Raiders?

That's two QBs gone for Oakland.
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I think that Carr will be going to Oakland since they just traded another one of thier quaterbacks. Now Oakland will draft CJ and since the Falcons were not going to be able to get him because the Raiders were already planning to get Carr and draft CJ. Atlanta does not have to worry about Tampa getting CJ. What ever draft pick we get from Oakland they will get back from GreenBay when they trade Moss.

Everybody wins.......Except for Tampa....they should not have accepted the Plummer trade!
 
Raindrops keep fallin' on my head
And just like the guy whose feet are too big for his bed
Nothin' seems to fit
Those raindrops are fallin' on my head, they keep fallin'

So I just did me some talkin' to the sun
And I said I didn't like the way he got things done
Sleepin' on the job
Those raindrops are fallin' on my head, they keep fallin'

But there's one thing I know
The blues they send to meet me won't defeat me
It won't be long till happiness steps up to greet me

Raindrops keep fallin' on my head
But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turnin' red
Cryin's not for me
'Cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complainin'
Because I'm free
Nothin's worryin' me



It won't be long till happiness steps up to greet me

Raindrops keep fallin' on my head
But that doesn't mean my eyes will soon be turnin' red
Cryin's not for me
'Cause I'm never gonna stop the rain by complainin'
Because I'm free
Nothin's worryin' me
 
I've been walkin' these streets so long
Singin' the same old song
I know every crack in these dirty sidewalks of Broadway
Where hustle's the name of the game
And nice guys get washed away like the snow and the rain
There's been a load of compromisin'
On the road to my horizon
But I'm gonna be where the lights are shinin' on me

Like a rhinestone cowboy
Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo
Like a rhinestone cowboy
Getting cards and letters from people I don't even know
And offers comin' over the phone

Well, I really don't mind the rain
And a smile can hide all the pain
But you're down when you're ridin' the train that's takin' the long way
And I dream of the things I'll do
With a subway token and a dollar tucked inside my shoe
There'll be a load of compromisin'
On the road to my horizon
But I'm gonna be where the lights are shinin' on me

Like a rhinestone cowboy
Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo
Rhinestone cowboy
Gettin' cards and letters from people I don't even know
And offers comin' over the phone

Like a rhinestone cowboy
Riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo

Like a rhinestone cowboy
Gettin' card and letters from people I don't even know


http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/campbell-glen/rhinestone-cowboy-655.html
 
I really liked what Matt said about that $20 too. Not to mention that he put it out on the table for Gary to see like a Challenge flag. That to me shows us how this guy really sees himself as someone who can take up anything that Gary throws at him. I like that kind of competative nature.:redtowel:
 
I agree, he did sound like a natural born leader. Hopefully that equates to on the field leadership as well, because in this league, that's one of the most important things. All in all, I came away from the conference with a great feeling about the guy. I believe him.....that's a start! :yahoo: :elmo:
 
C'mon...this is all semantics. All of these guys just stand in front of a ton of people in the media just trying not to say anything stupid. Carr wasn't perceived as a leader of the team, but it wasn't because he failed to commit to that responsibility in a press conference.

If this guy can move the offense up and down the field, he will be considered a leader.
 
Hit the road, Jack
And don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road, Jack
And don't you come back no more
(What you say?)
Hit the road, Jack
And don't you come back no more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road, Jack
And don't you come back no more
 
mike230765 said:
I think that Carr will be going to Oakland since they just traded another one of thier quaterbacks. Now Oakland will draft CJ and since the Falcons were not going to be able to get him because the Raiders were already planning to get Carr and draft CJ. Atlanta does not have to worry about Tampa getting CJ. What ever draft pick we get from Oakland they will get back from GreenBay when they trade Moss.

Everybody wins.......Except for Tampa....they should not have accepted the Plummer trade!
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Thats right...EVERYONE knows....You mess with the bull, You get ___ _____!:yahoo:
 
Spike said:
C'mon...this is all semantics. All of these guys just stand in front of a ton of people in the media just trying not to say anything stupid. Carr wasn't perceived as a leader of the team, but it wasn't because he failed to commit to that responsibility in a press conference.

If this guy can move the offense up and down the field, he will be considered a leader.
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What you say makes more sense, but they put animated smiles in their posts and you didn't, so I'm gonna have to go with them...

hey, I'm easy that way...


</joke>


I agree with what you said.
 
kastofsna said:
so don't expect much in return for carr.
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I'm expecting zippo, so anything we get will be a pleasant surprise.
But Schauby, as the ATL guy called him on SR 610 yesterday, is personable
and poised in demeanor. Lets hope he's that cool when its 3rd & long in the RCA Dome and Freeney is staring down his sights at him from the edge.
 
I had visions of Oswald-Ruby as the presser began.

My thoughts on the presser:

1. Big-time "We screwed up" admission by McNair. That's hard to do when you're a multi-quadrazillionaire. The thing I like is that McNair was trying to do the right thing, trying to give a guy a shot--one more try--before axing him. Can't fault a guy for having that kind of loyalty to a player who really is a classy person on and off the field. All of us wish we can work in a situation like that, in a place where the top boss believes in you. So that was hard to watch, hard to see our owner admit a pretty big "mistake."

2. That's gotta' sting David, as well. You've just been called "a big mistake," and even though everyone was classy about their responses during the presser...you still feel bad for DC a little bit.

3. A deal for Carr is done, IMO. We haven't released those details because you want both teams to have their own day in the sun, so to speak. Does no good to have this big presser for Matt and then at the bottom of the screen you see the scrolling ticker that says "BREAKING NEWS: David Carr traded to _______...." David will have his day tomorrow since it's Friday. He'll get to strap on a new baseball cap, too, and it should be interesting to see the responses he gives when he's asked about leaving Houston, and about the "conditions" he worked under in Houston.

4. Matt is articulate, but a little bland. The question about "What intangibles, other than your passing abilities, can you outline for us?" was answered with basically a non-answer: "I think the QB is the leader, and he is in front on the field, off the field, in the community....so I look forward and I am excited about that." Not exactly an informative answer. Never said WHAT he does, what his mentality is on the subject of intangibles that he was asked about. Kinda' a weird answer, to tell you the truth. I thought he sounded "good," but not so sure that he said anything of real value that we can pick up on. And you know, maybe that's OK. I think David had a tendency to try and get "too deep" and to try and find the right answer. Seems that Matt might be comfortable just being a QB and not really striving hard to give the media insightful answers...cuz at the end of the day, it's the play on the field that matters most. And you can tell he KNOWS that. He said so.

Overall, it was a good presser. Nothing really earth shattering. Just a good "Welcome to Houston."

Ahman knew we were going Matt Schaub a long time ago. I'm sure Kubiak told him so when the pitch was made to Ahman, and I am sure that Ahman personally met with Matt to let him know that the blitz is going to be picked up come hell or high water...that stuff goes a long way to making sure you seal the deal with a guy who's going to be the new tackling dummy in Houston. Kubiak utilized Plummer to talk to Matt. Utilized Ahman to talk to Matt. Had a round of golf with him. Had three former Atlanta coaches discuss Matt on an evaluatory level. Sounds as if the FO has done its homework...yet this is being described as a gamble. I think it's the best gamble we've made yet.

Everything is a gamble, by the way.
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I had visions of Oswald-Ruby as the presser began.

My thoughts on the presser:

1. Big-time "We screwed up" admission by McNair. That's hard to do when you're a multi-quadrazillionaire. The thing I like is that McNair was trying to do the right thing, trying to give a guy a shot--one more try--before axing him. Can't fault a guy for having that kind of loyalty to a player who really is a classy person on and off the field. All of us wish we can work in a situation like that, in a place where the top boss believes in you. So that was hard to watch, hard to see our owner admit a pretty big "mistake."

2. That's gotta' sting David, as well. You've just been called "a big mistake," and even though everyone was classy about their responses during the presser...you still feel bad for DC a little bit.

3. A deal for Carr is done, IMO. We haven't released those details because you want both teams to have their own day in the sun, so to speak. Does no good to have this big presser for Matt and then at the bottom of the screen you see the scrolling ticker that says "BREAKING NEWS: David Carr traded to _______...." David will have his day tomorrow since it's Friday. He'll get to strap on a new baseball cap, too, and it should be interesting to see the responses he gives when he's asked about leaving Houston, and about the "conditions" he worked under in Houston.

4. Matt is articulate, but a little bland. The question about "What intangibles, other than your passing abilities, can you outline for us?" was answered with basically a non-answer: "I think the QB is the leader, and he is in front on the field, off the field, in the community....so I look forward and I am excited about that." Not exactly an informative answer. Never said WHAT he does, what his mentality is on the subject of intangibles that he was asked about. Kinda' a weird answer, to tell you the truth. I thought he sounded "good," but not so sure that he said anything of real value that we can pick up on. And you know, maybe that's OK. I think David had a tendency to try and get "too deep" and to try and find the right answer. Seems that Matt might be comfortable just being a QB and not really striving hard to give the media insightful answers...cuz at the end of the day, it's the play on the field that matters most. And you can tell he KNOWS that. He said so.

Overall, it was a good presser. Nothing really earth shattering. Just a good "Welcome to Houston."

Ahman knew we were going Matt Schaub a long time ago. I'm sure Kubiak told him so when the pitch was made to Ahman, and I am sure that Ahman personally met with Matt to let him know that the blitz is going to be picked up come hell or high water...that stuff goes a long way to making sure you seal the deal with a guy who's going to be the new tackling dummy in Houston. Kubiak utilized Plummer to talk to Matt. Utilized Ahman to talk to Matt. Had a round of golf with him. Had three former Atlanta coaches discuss Matt on an evaluatory level. Sounds as if the FO has done its homework...yet this is being described as a gamble. I think it's the best gamble we've made yet.

Everything is a gamble, by the way.
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good post...i wouldnt get too bothered by matt's answer..i mean whats he supposed to say..kinda sounds like a dumb question to me i dont know- what were you expecting...you cant see intangibles or whatever so how are you supposed to describe them?:confused:
 
this is still all so strange to me...

did anybody back in 2004 think that'd we dump carr and ddavis for schaub and ahman green replacing them in 2007? i woulda called you all kinds of crazy. this is nuts.
 
Spike said:
C'mon...this is all semantics. All of these guys just stand in front of a ton of people in the media just trying not to say anything stupid. Carr wasn't perceived as a leader of the team, but it wasn't because he failed to commit to that responsibility in a press conference.

If this guy can move the offense up and down the field, he will be considered a leader.
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So if that was the case how come DC never said it. DC was not the leader for the simple fact that........ he wasn't. No one perceived him as one therefore he never acted like one.

I am not a DC hater so don't take this like that. I wish him well as long as he does not play us.

The comments made were something I nor the team was accustomed to.

J
 
Maddict5 said:
good post...i wouldnt get too bothered by matt's answer..i mean whats he supposed to say..kinda sounds like a dumb question to me i dont know- what were you expecting...you cant see intangibles or whatever so how are you supposed to describe them?:confused:
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My impresion is that he was having hard time not grinning like a school boy... I mean in the last 24 hours he made a few million, and became an NFL starting QB.
I'd have been up there smiling like a loon... hell, I'd probably bust out laughing at the stupidest comment, and embarass myself when I couldn't stop laughing to save my life.
 
Vinny said:
Nick wanted me to tell you that the first annual message board combine will be announced at 11:30. If you can't pass the basic test your posts will all end up in a special forum that is moderated by Second Honeymoon, QB75 and Ibar Harry.
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Crap, do I have to travel over from Denmark for this test or can I do it online?
I can drop by in july..? :)
 
TexasJedi said:
Bob "Freakin" Allen could not resist. He hates Carr.
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Did you take note who he asked that question to?

Bob "Freakin" McNair . . . that's who. Bob Allen may be a chump, but he knows who really pulled the trigger on that mistake. And McNair's reply was lame IMO. Shoulda manned up and admitted it publicly.
 
Marcus said:
Did you take note who he asked that question to?

Bob "Freakin" McNair . . . that's who. Bob Allen may be a chump, but he knows who really pulled the trigger on that mistake. And McNair's reply was lame IMO. Shoulda manned up and admitted it publicly.
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huh? McNair came clean today. What are you talking about?
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
4. Matt is articulate, but a little bland. The question about "What intangibles, other than your passing abilities, can you outline for us?" was answered with basically a non-answer: "I think the QB is the leader, and he is in front on the field, off the field, in the community....so I look forward and I am excited about that." Not exactly an informative answer. Never said WHAT he does, what his mentality is on the subject of intangibles that he was asked about. Kinda' a weird answer, to tell you the truth. I thought he sounded "good," but not so sure that he said anything of real value that we can pick up on. And you know, maybe that's OK. I think David had a tendency to try and get "too deep" and to try and find the right answer. Seems that Matt might be comfortable just being a QB and not really striving hard to give the media insightful answers...cuz at the end of the day, it's the play on the field that matters most. And you can tell he KNOWS that. He said so.
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First off, gpshafer has been remarkably sharp with his posts as we've all been discussing the Schaub acquisition, IMO. OK, on to the substance:

Journalism is a dead art. How do you ask the QB to define "intangibles"? That's a question for the GM or coaches or scouts or "expert analysts". Did the guy expect Schaub to compose an essay on the spot? Did he expect Schaub to take the time to say intangibles are knowing the plays, knowing each player's role in each play, being able to read the defense from the point of view of each guy on offense and make sure each knows what adjustments he needs to make, having a feel for all that occurs all around him as the play develops so that he can adjust on the fly, praise his guys for good play and coach them or chew their a** for bad play, knowing which will be most effective in spurring that player to correct? Just for starters?
 
Vinny said:
Look for a Carr trade today or tomorrow per Rick Smith
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I like how Rick took the question head up and didn't try to side step the issue. Next, a deal or offer much rather must be in play because I don't think he would have made the statement that David would be traded by today or tomorrow much rather. That is too much of a commitment to say IMO. Saying we will try to get a deal soon or explore all options before coming to a decision is the lanaguage I was expecting which would have told me that teams were taking the wait and see approach.
 
Vinny said:
huh? McNair came clean today. What are you talking about?
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I listened to it on the radio, and I don't think he came as clean as you think he did. Thought it was downright evasive. Maybe it's the enormity of the mistake, or maybe it's the constant debate that's been going as to WHO exactly it was who gave the final OK on the thing. And IMO, I think he should have owned up to it way before now.
 
michaelm said:
My impresion is that he was having hard time not grinning like a school boy... I mean in the last 24 hours he made a few million, and became an NFL starting QB.
I'd have been up there smiling like a loon... hell, I'd probably bust out laughing at the stupidest comment, and embarass myself when I couldn't stop laughing to save my life.
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You had me smiling like a loon just reading that!!!
 
Marcus said:
I listened to it on the radio, and I don't think he came as clean as you think he did. Thought it was downright evasive. Maybe it's the enormity of the mistake, or maybe it's the constant debate that's been going as to WHO exactly it was who gave the final OK on the thing. And IMO, I think he should have owned up to it way before now.
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I think it's more of a situation of YOU not wanting to lose one of your soap box items.

He manned up, admitted in casual terms that it was a mistake, and then moved on.

Would you have him put into the stocks down on the city square so we can throw rotten lettuce and tomatoes at him?

I mean, let go of it. I think you're reaching a little on this one. I saw a guy sitting next to Matt Schaub, and that's as much of an admittance of making a mistake that I need. In addition, he did say that he's made mistakes and that he tries not to make as many bad ones as he makes good ones.

Sheesh, what more do you want? His head on a platter?
 
gpshafer_1976 said:
I think it's more of a situation of YOU not wanting to lose one of your soap box items.

He manned up, admitted in casual terms that it was a mistake, and then moved on.

Would you have him put into the stocks down on the city square so we can throw rotten lettuce and tomatoes at him?

I mean, let go of it. I think you're reaching a little on this one. I saw a guy sitting next to Matt Schaub, and that's as much of an admittance of making a mistake that I need. In addition, he did say that he's made mistakes and that he tries not to make as many bad ones as he makes good ones.

Sheesh, what more do you want? His head on a platter?
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Maybe it's because I just listened to it on 610, instead of watching it on TV, and not being able to look at McNair's face as he was responding. Maybe I just read to many editorial columns and message board posts blaming Kubiak and everyone else but the owner for the 'mistake'.

But you're right. Have to let it go.
 
Marcus said:
I listened to it on the radio, and I don't think he came as clean as you think he did. Thought it was downright evasive. Maybe it's the enormity of the mistake, or maybe it's the constant debate that's been going as to WHO exactly it was who gave the final OK on the thing. And IMO, I think he should have owned up to it way before now.
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You weren't listening well at that moment then...cause he was as direct and poignant as he could be about accepting blame for this. I was a little shocked he was so blunt about it to be honest...I made mention of that earlier in this thread. I think he earned a little respect from me for that moment.
 
I missed the press conference. I was running errands. At around the time of the press conference, I heard this Kelly Clarkson song on the musak.

Breakaway

Grew up in a small town
And when the rain would fall down
I'd just stare out my window
Dreaming of what could be
And if I'd end up happy
I would pray (I would pray)

Trying hard to reach out
But when I tried to speak out
Felt like no one could hear me
Wanted to belong here
But something felt so wrong here
So I prayed I could break away

[Chorus:]
I'll spread my wings and I'll learn how to fly
I'll do what it takes til' I touch the sky
And I'll make a wish
Take a chance
Make a change
And breakaway
Out of the darkness and into the sun
But I won't forget all the ones that I love
I'll take a risk
Take a chance
Make a change
And breakaway

Wanna feel the warm breeze
Sleep under a palm tree
Feel the rush of the ocean
Get onboard a fast train
Travel on a jet plane, far away (I will)
And breakaway

[Chorus]

Buildings with a hundred floors
Swinging around revolving doors
Maybe I don't know where they'll take me but
Gotta keep moving on, moving on
Fly away, breakaway

I'll spread my wings
And I'll learn how to fly
Though it's not easy to tell you goodbye
I gotta take a risk
Take a chance
Make a change
And breakaway
Out of the darkness and into the sun
But I won't forget the place I come from
I gotta take a risk
Take a chance
Make a change
And breakaway, breakaway, breakaway
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Maybe it is a sign.

Maybe the song is really about quarterback change.

Or maybe it is just a reflection that contemporary music really is terrible.
 
Vinny said:
You weren't listening well at that moment then...cause he was as direct and poignant as he could be about accepting blame for this. I was a little shocked he was so blunt about it to be honest...I made mention of that earlier in this thread. I think he earned a little respect from me for that moment.
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I wish I could've heard it....

Sounds like him and Smith really let loose....
 
The mistake he owned up to was letting Carr go after 1 year in that he gave him a bonus. That is the mistake.
 
NFLforher said:
Was DC at the presser?
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HOU-TEX said:
Yeah, he was filming.
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phantom17 said:
No, DC swept the floor after the conference!
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HOU-TEX said:
That was him? Man, I could've sworn he was filming. I hope he swept it clean for his trade conference tomorrow.
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phantom17 said:
HAha :) !
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Feeling giddy and acting like school girls today?

Where ever he was he was assuredly displaying his usual class.

You two :joker: could take lessons.

Carr deserves more respect from supposed Texan fans.

I've been a Carr supporter, he's gone and Schaub is our qb now.

I will now support Schaub, but hurling insults at Carr is just wrong on your part.


:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
Feeling giddy and acting like school girls today?

Where ever he was he was assuredly displaying his usual class.

You two :joker: could take lessons.

Carr deserves more respect from supposed Texan fans.

I've been a Carr supporter, he's gone and Schaub is our qb now.

I will now support Schaub, but hurling insults at Carr is just wrong on your part.
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Relax champ. It's all in fun. :victory:
 
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