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RUMOR: Trading Down for Peterson

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What do you think??


RB Adrian Peterson appears to be the Cleveland Browns favorite pick at No. 3 should they stay put. But, according to the Dayton Daily News, the Texans are interested in moving up the draft board for a shot at Peterson and could propose a trade to the Browns that would send starting QB David Carr and draft picks to Cleveland for the No. 3 position.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR
 
I know we have a ton of holes, BUT I would send damn near anything Cleveland wanted. Carr and picks that is... Gosh I wish the draft was this weekend.
 
I'd swap firsts and throw in David Carr to get to the top spot. At the most I'd be willing to send an additional 4.

I know that wouldn't get it done but that's what I think the move up is worth. I just don't think we can afford to give up too much in draft picks to do this and I really, really would like to see the Texans do this. I just can't make my brain agree that it's the ticket.
 
There is always the hope that Cleveland picks a QB and AP falls to us, which I think is a real possibility. Brady Quinn is the hometown kid, while the Browns GM is on the record for loving Russell and saying the Browns would draft him (I know, smokescreens), so nothing is a forgone conclusion. But if its the #8 and DC, the I would do it.
 
What do you think??


RB Adrian Peterson appears to be the Cleveland Browns favorite pick at No. 3 should they stay put. But, according to the Dayton Daily News, the Texans are interested in moving up the draft board for a shot at Peterson and could propose a trade to the Browns that would send starting QB David Carr and draft picks to Cleveland for the No. 3 position.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR

I think its more likey the Texans could trade Carr to Cleveland to swap 2nd rd. picks :pigfly: this is really pushing it but maybe even 3rd rd. picks too :marionaner:
 
David Carr and draft picks? I'd have to think twice about David Carr and our 1st for their 1st.

Are you f'ing kidding me? For someone to take that albatross of a player and contract from us would be a gift from the gods much less to actually move up 5 spots in the 1st Round in order to guarantee a shot at either Petersen, C.Johnson or Joe Thomas. This is a total pipe dream regretfully.

I am resigned to the sad fact that the Texans are too stupid and/or stubborn to bring about real change to this franchise. Carr is gonna be under center and we are going to continue to be under .500.

oh well, McNair still gets paid and sticks by his cabana boy....

sometimes McNair seems to care more about PR and other non-football BS more than he seems to care about the product on the field.
 
I know Casserly read the boards, but I didn't know he posted, too.

haha

i could possibly invision our #8 pick, Carr and a 2nd Round next year to the Browns for their #3 pick. I think that is a win win for both franchises. The browns make a small improvement at QB and get a 2nd round next year. We get a top notch player at a position of need and only give up a pick next year to move up. It would probably take a 3rd this year and a 2nd next year as well though.

oh well, i hope Rick Smith stands up and demands change.

If we can't make this happen, we need to hope that Quinn falls to us at #8 and we get a pretty damn good QB prospect with good value at #8.
 
Are ya'll serious?

Take Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson if he's there.

Johnson and Johnson.

Johnson and Johnson practically sells itself. Two freaks of nature on the field at once. Those guys are unparalleled athletically and maybe CJ's hands can rub off on AJ....oh wait that didn't come out right

OT- That avatar of yours Texas Thrill is hilarious. It took me a couple passes to notice it but pretty sweet.
 
If we had the 3 pick I would be hoping for Thomas. Peterson would be second on my list then Johnson.

Wouldn't trade up for any of them though..... well maybe Thomas for a 7th :pigfly:
 
"RB Adrian Peterson appears to be the Cleveland Browns favorite pick at No. 3 should they stay put. But, according to the Dayton Daily News, the Texans are interested in moving up the draft board for a shot at Peterson and could propose a trade to the Browns that would send starting QB David Carr and draft picks to Cleveland for the No. 3 position. "

link: http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR

This was dated 2/26/07
 
Interesting. We'll see what pans out after free agency and as the draft approaches. I don't put a lot of stock into all of these "reports" at this point.
 
"RB Adrian Peterson appears to be the Cleveland Browns favorite pick at No. 3 should they stay put. But, according to the Dayton Daily News, the Texans are interested in moving up the draft board for a shot at Peterson and could propose a trade to the Browns that would send starting QB David Carr and draft picks to Cleveland for the No. 3 position. "

link: http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/NFL_SC-RUMOR

This was dated 2/26/07

I heard something about this on 610 about 30 minutes ago. It was a sports columnist but I caught it toward the end so I never heard a name. Basicly, what I heard is that it may not be the popular choice "at first" but it could be a good marketing decision by the FO to sell their product for years to come seeing as AP would likely be the face of our franchise.

I beleive that train of thought by the front office wouldn't be so far fetched. Who is the face of our franchise at the moment? David Carr? Andre Johnson?
 
but it could be a good marketing decision by the FO to sell their product for years to come seeing as AP would likely be the face of our franchise.
Do you mean like if they would have drafted VY or Bush in 2006 ?
I dunno, but the guys in the Texans FO don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. But with 2007 season-tickets sales starting to take a hit,
this concept might be belatedly dawning upon their collective mindset.
 
Do you mean like if they would have drafted VY or Bush in 2006 ?
I dunno, but the guys in the Texans FO don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. But with 2007 season-tickets sales starting to take a hit,
this concept might be belatedly dawning upon their collective mindset.

Dude, the current GM wasn't even in teh FO for last year's draft.

As for ticket sales I could have sworn I heard that they were up from last year, not down.
 
Looks like the Texans really like Adrian Peterson. My question is, if they traded up to the 3rd spot and Calvin Johnson was still on the board, would they consider taking him instead?
 
Do you mean like if they would have drafted VY or Bush in 2006 ?
I dunno, but the guys in the Texans FO don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. But with 2007 season-tickets sales starting to take a hit,
this concept might be belatedly dawning upon their collective mindset.
What source are you quoting showing ticket sales are down? Or is this just your opinion? In one of the threads I reviewed yesterday, another poster quoted a source for the Texans saying tickets sales were ok and a waiting list remains. Also, if Carr is traded who is the replacement? Another thread mentioned a sport analyst with the NFL (I believe) saying his source said Carr is going nowhere in 2007. ABC supposedly backed this guy up. Allegedly the Texans do not see a QB in first round better than Carr. Plummer is also allegedly off the market as Vikings are willing to give Denver a pick in a trade rather than take chances on him being available in free agency.
 
Do you mean like if they would have drafted VY or Bush in 2006 ?
I dunno, but the guys in the Texans FO don't appear to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. But with 2007 season-tickets sales starting to take a hit,
this concept might be belatedly dawning upon their collective mindset.

Come back in 5 years and say that. Ten bucks says either VY or RB are no longer in the league at that time. Just a hunch.
 
Looks like the Texans really like Adrian Peterson. My question is, if they traded up to the 3rd spot and Calvin Johnson was still on the board, would they consider taking him instead?
Good question, here is my take. Another AJ type of receiver will do little to allow Carr time to throw. IMO, only a quality LT or a quality back will buy QB time to be successful. Johnson will be a + for any team but does not fit our needs. Also, WR appears deep and one could be picked in later rounds. In my picks, one is not considered before 6th round if that. AJ, Moulds, Walters and our TEs should be successful if healthy. Peterson can also catch the ball.
 
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Sorry for repeating something that is in the NFL forum. I don't look through many threads or posts in the NFL section...so I didn't know it had been discussed elsewhere.

This deal would leave us with a hole at QB, and it would mean that we sit a rookie while an aged veteran (Rosenfels) takes the snaps until the rookie is ready.

Unless we acquire a QB in free agency.
 
Good question, here is my take. Another AJ type of receiver will do little to allow Carr time to throw. IMO, only a quality LT or a quality back will buy QB time to be successful. Johnson will be a + for any team but does not fit our needs. Also, WR appears deep and one could be picked in later rounds. In my picks, one is not considered before 6th round if that. AJ, Moulds, Walters and our TEs should be successful if healthy. Peterson can also catch the ball.

I kind of agree, but Calvin Johnson just looks special. Probably the most talented WR to enter the draft in years. I don't think Moulds is the answer as the #2 WR. He's getting up there in age. AJ, CJ, and Moulds would be a formidable tandem. If the Texans do trade up at #3 though, lord knows they'll enough quality players too choose from.
 
I can't believe some of you actually think the Texans would trade up from the 8th spot to get anyone.

If they did that, they'd have to give up their 1st and 2nd this year, plus probably their 1st and 2nd next year. And throwing Carr into the mix wouldn't be worth squat.

The Texans are taking BPA with the 8th pick. Period. (But I guess that would be too boring, right?)

:whew
 
I can't believe some of you actually think the Texans would trade up from the 8th spot to get anyone.

If they did that, they'd have to give up their 1st and 2nd this year, plus probably their 1st and 2nd next year. And throwing Carr into the mix wouldn't be worth squat.

The Texans are taking BPA with the 8th pick. Period. (But I guess that would be too boring, right?)

:whew
The 3rd spot can be had for less than you state IMO, but I do agree that the odds favor Htown staying @ 8 and not moving up. Most posters seem to think we have too many holes to fill to give up any picks. Our first and DC would not be enough to get the 3rd pick from me.
 
Ok but what if the trade was this our 8 for their 3 plus carr and our number or 4 which ever one prob three. would you then think it would be a good trade?
 
What source are you quoting showing ticket sales are down? Or is this just your opinion? In one of the threads I reviewed yesterday, another poster quoted a source for the Texans saying tickets sales were ok and a waiting list remains.

I just talked to my season ticket agent, and he said seats are available all over Reliant. No waiting list, so take it FWIW. idonno:

I think the FO says ticket sales are great every year as part of standard operating procedure.
 
"RB Adrian Peterson appears to be the Cleveland Browns favorite pick at No. 3 should they stay put. But, according to the Dayton Daily News, the Texans are interested in moving up the draft board for a shot at Peterson and could propose a trade to the Browns that would send starting QB David Carr and draft picks to Cleveland for the No. 3 position. "

My little brother is the editor of that paper...il give him a call and ask who their source is:ok:
 
Browns trade for Carr? Why would they do this? Carr has played some of his worse football against them- 6 sacks in '04 and 86 yds in '06.

Too, the Browns have less to surround Carr with than we do and everyone knows David can not-if at all-improve his play unless his team mates are all-pro.

JMO, but I don't think other teams are knocking our door down to get Carr. What are they going to get? Even if they can surround Carr with better players, no one knows if Carr can produce and why would a team want him as a back-up, especially at $7million.

No, IMO Carr is here to stay because that's the only option we have...
 
Would you guys trade Carr, our 2nd and 4th for the 3rd overall ?

Without swapping picks ?

So we'd have the 3rd and 8th pick ?
 
I can't believe some of you actually think the Texans would trade up from the 8th spot to get anyone.

If they did that, they'd have to give up their 1st and 2nd this year, plus probably their 1st and 2nd next year. And throwing Carr into the mix wouldn't be worth squat.

The Texans are taking BPA with the 8th pick. Period. (But I guess that would be too boring, right?)

:whew


Anyone remember what the Oilers gave up to acquire the #1 in 1978 to get the rights to Earl?
 
Would you guys trade Carr, our 2nd and 4th for the 3rd overall ?

Without swapping picks ?

So we'd have the 3rd and 8th pick ?

Yes, we would do that in a heart beat. However, even if we were to be optimistic and assume Carr to be worth a 2nd round pick (which I don't think anybody does) that would essentially be giving Cleveland two 2's and a 4 for the #3 overall selection, which would be highway robbery.
 
Yes, we would do that in a heart beat. However, even if we were to be optimistic and assume Carr to be worth a 2nd round pick (which I don't think anybody does) that would essentially be giving Cleveland two 2's and a 4 for the #3 overall selection, which would be highway robbery.

You're right.
 
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