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More dynamic than Will Anderson? I'm not sure this guy is the most dynamic edge rusher on his college team. Not a guy I'm interested in at this point in the draft.
I feel the same way. I would go a different route.More dynamic than Will Anderson? I'm not sure this guy is the most dynamic edge rusher on his college team. Not a guy I'm interested in at this point in the draft.
Give me this guy if he can play RT. If not give me Jordan Morgan or Patrick Paul. Gotta find a RT.
Need some mean, physical guys on that Oline.Give me this guy if he can play RT. If not give me Jordan Morgan or Patrick Paul. Gotta find a RT.
This guy can play. But his arms most likely are on the shorter side. But this didn't seem to affect him playing LT at Washington. He was one of the better LT's in the country. Tough guy. Kinda reminds me of Eric Winston.Need some mean, physical guys on that Oline.
This one got rag dolled vs the Ravens.
I don't understand Tunsil - he handled Garrett but was lazy against Ravens.This guy can play. But his arms most likely are on the shorter side. But this didn't seem to affect him playing LT at Washington. He was one of the better LT's in the country. Tough guy. Kinda reminds me of Eric Winston.
Tunsil is the least of the Texans issues.I don't understand Tunsil - he handled Garrett but was lazy against Ravens.
Tunsil just has Garrett's number all the way back to the TAMU vs Ole Miss daysI don't understand Tunsil - he handled Garrett but was lazy against Ravens.
& Garrett's been playing injured since early December.Tunsil just has Garrett's number all the way back to the TAMU vs Ole Miss days
I had Chop in my recent mock but Keon Coleman and Jer'zhan Newton weren't available to me in that mock. I would prefer both of them over Chop Robinson in this guys mock draft.
If Newton makes it to 23, you run up to that podium.I had Chop in my recent mock but Keon Coleman and Jer'zhan Newton weren't available to me in that mock. I would prefer both of them over Chop Robinson in this guys mock draft.
Not sure if Lance saying not challenged in 23 was what I saw: opposing quarterbacks just did not go to his area of the field that often. I like Cooper a lot and understand why many say he should be safety. I agree he is a more Zone Defender than a press man. As a cornerback, I prefer Arnold, Quinyon, McKinstry and Kris Abrams-Draine. As safety, Kinchens and Nubins.Not sure if anyone has noticed, but there are Lance Zierlein profiles on the players in these mocks. Here's pne on Iowa DB Cooper DeJean.
I honestly have been pondering trading out of Pick 23 if we can pick up an extra second or third. I see a TON of value in the second and third round of the draft this year. I can see KC trying to jump in front of Buffalo for a WR and I could see a team like Arizona trying to jump up to 23 from 27 as well. Some of the best value this year is in round 2 and the holes we have could be filled nicely in day 2 and 3 of the draft this year!Not sure if Lance saying not challenged in 23 was what I saw: opposing quarterbacks just did not go to his area of the field that often. I like Cooper a lot and understand why many say he should be safety. I agree he is a more Zone Defender than a press man. As a cornerback, I prefer Arnold, Quinyon, McKinstry and Kris Abrams-Draine. As safety, Kinchens and Nubins.
Hoping Nick can get GB's twos for 1.23.
Depending on what we get in free agency, I could also take Arizona's round two and their top round three. Thinking about it, probably would trade 23 for Arizona's three round threes. This draft is deep with players I want.
I could also see Nick moving up from 23 for a player they really like, Fuaga for instance. Lot's of good players in this draft. In NC/DR I trust.I honestly have been pondering trading out of Pick 23 if we can pick up an extra second or third. I see a TON of value in the second and third round of the draft this year. I can see KC trying to jump in front of Buffalo for a WR and I could see a team like Arizona trying to jump up to 23 from 27 as well. Some of the best value this year is in round 2 and the holes we have could be filled nicely in day 2 and 3 of the draft this year!
That makes sense. It just doesn't seem like a Caserio move. I would think it's more likely that Nick trys to move into the teens to get Ryans the d-lineman he wants.I honestly have been pondering trading out of Pick 23 if we can pick up an extra second or third. I see a TON of value in the second and third round of the draft this year.
I just dont know who that guy would be? I want to improve the D line as well but who would they trade up for? Dallas Turner is the only guy I think that would be worth trading up for honestly. I like Latu but with the medicals who knows. One guy that I like that I dont feel would be worth trading up for and will be there maybe top 30ish but I feel like would work well with Demeco and pair nicely opposite Anderson is Chris Braswell. I also feel Jared Verse but hes going to probably be gone top 15.That makes sense. It just doesn't seem like a Caserio move. I would think it's more likely that Nick trys to move into the teens to get Ryans the d-lineman he wants.
I don't either. Long time until we get to draft night.I just dont know who that guy would be?
Newton is the only DL I would trade up to get in the 1st rd.I just dont know who that guy would be? I want to improve the D line as well but who would they trade up for? Dallas Turner is the only guy I think that would be worth trading up for honestly. I like Latu but with the medicals who knows. One guy that I like that I dont feel would be worth trading up for and will be there maybe top 30ish but I feel like would work well with Demeco and pair nicely opposite Anderson is Chris Braswell. I also feel Jared Verse but hes going to probably be gone top 15.
Yea Braswell definitely intrigues me. I know he won't go early in the first but I don't think he's going to be there at our round 2 pick. I that that is someone you would have to trade up for in the second if u want to go that route. I could see him going somewhere between 32-45.Newton is the only DL I would trade up to get in the 1st rd.
Braswell falls to the 2nd. IMHO Not enough production, to be a 1st rd pick, but very talented and his best football should be ahead of him. I would love for him to be the Texans pick in the 2nd. Sign Wilkins/Barnett/Draft Braswell/Sanders/Jalyx Hunt in the Late rds. That's a pretty good Edge group even if you let Greenard walk. Add offensive playmakers like Hollywood Brown and Fant or Henry in FA and draft Irving in the 3rd. Playmakers.
Mitchell and Braswell are the 2 guys I'm hoping for most if Funaga is gone.
Az trades three thirds for 1.23; combines that + 27 = 1440 points to trade up to 8 for a prime need.I honestly have been pondering trading out of Pick 23 if we can pick up an extra second or third. I see a TON of value in the second and third round of the draft this year. I can see KC trying to jump in front of Buffalo for a WR and I could see a team like Arizona trying to jump up to 23 from 27 as well. Some of the best value this year is in round 2 and the holes we have could be filled nicely in day 2 and 3 of the draft this year!
I didn't realize just how much draft capital Arizona had, holy crap lol. They got a ton of maneuvering power. Are they 100 percent sticking with Kyler? They are definitely a dark horse to move up and select Qb, or Build around Kyler for sure.Az trades three thirds for 1.23; combines that + 27 = 1440 points to trade up to 8 for a prime need.
Thats what I was trying to say. I feel like he's going to be there at 23 and thats to early to take him, but will not be there for 59. We would definitely have to move up closer to 30-40 if we wanted to add him I feel. Watching his tape I love the size and athleticism. 6'3 257lbs is what he showed up to the combine at.Yea Braswell definitely intrigues me. I know he won't go early in the first but I don't think he's going to be there at our round 2 pick. I that that is someone you would have to trade up for in the second if u want to go that route. I could see him going somewhere between 32-45.
I didn't realize just how much draft capital Arizona had, holy crap lol. They got a ton of maneuvering power. Are they 100 percent sticking with Kyler? They are definitely a dark horse to move up and select Qb, or Build around Kyler for sure.
Im really only high on 2, Caleb and Drake. I dont like Daniels personally. He doesnt have the frame and looks really slender to me. Dont see his style translating real well to Nfl caliber play. I was just floating it out there that if Arizona wasnt sold on Kyler they had plenty of capital to trade up to 1 or 2 if they really wanted. I highy doubt that will happen was just floating it out.How many QBs do you think will go before #4? Is there a QB you really like? Do you think he'll go before #4?
Yep. All indications I see are Kyler will remain that quarterback. As you probably recall, the conundrum the Arizona management were in when they decided to extend him.. they can get out of his contract with reasonable dead money remaining, however it looks like they are not going to move him. The team has a great running back in Connor and McBride decent TE.I didn't realize just how much draft capital Arizona had, holy crap lol. They got a ton of maneuvering power. Are they 100 percent sticking with Kyler? They are definitely a dark horse to move up and select Qb, or Build around Kyler for sure.
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Lance Zierlein 2024 NFL mock draft 1.0: Falcons, Patriots make trades to land QBs
In his first mock of the 2024 NFL Draft, Lance Zierlein projects the Falcons and Patriots will make trades to nab quarterbacks. Check out the complete first-round projection, 1-32.www.nfl.com
Houston takes Chop Robinson
Here's a link to Zierleins current 2024 draft profiles.![]()
Lance Zierlein 2024 NFL mock draft 1.0: Falcons, Patriots make trades to land QBs
In his first mock of the 2024 NFL Draft, Lance Zierlein projects the Falcons and Patriots will make trades to nab quarterbacks. Check out the complete first-round projection, 1-32.www.nfl.com
Houston takes Chop Robinson
3How many QBs do you think will go before #4? Is there a QB you really like? Do you think he'll go before #4?
Ossenfort certainly set himself up to be in the best position possible. He can sit still and get a great player like MHJ. He can trade down 4-5 slots and still get another great WR or probably the best pass rusher (Latu/Turner) and get another 2025 1st and a 2024 2nd or 3rd. If somehow Daniels falls to 4 I bet Atlanta will trade the farm to get him, also possibly Denver would make a move up to 4 by giving up Surtain/1-12/2-45 and a 2025 1st.Yep. All indications I see are Kyler will remain that quarterback. As you probably recall, the conundrum the Arizona management were in when they decided to extend him.. they can get out of his contract with reasonable dead money remaining, however it looks like they are not going to move him. The team has a great running back in Connor and McBride decent TE.
BJ Ojuwalari was good draft pick.
Looks like most have them taking Harrison at 4.
If I was their GM, I would trade down for Nabers or Odunze getting a huge haul then use 23 and 27 for another need. Newton could be had for both those or maybe one and 2. 35. They had good trade with us in 2023 that benefitted both teams. Why not dance again?
Love what's in Chop's tool box. I see him as a slightly lesser Parsons. Extremely quick 1st step, he's got the power and the wiggle. Needs to get stronger in the run game and I would re-sign Barnett to give Chop a chance to just rush the passer as a rookie. The thought of WA/Sign Jones in FA/Collins/Chop russing the passer is elite stuff.![]()
Lance Zierlein 2024 NFL mock draft 1.0: Falcons, Patriots make trades to land QBs
In his first mock of the 2024 NFL Draft, Lance Zierlein projects the Falcons and Patriots will make trades to nab quarterbacks. Check out the complete first-round projection, 1-32.www.nfl.com
Houston takes Chop Robinson
the Texans did really well trading with the Cardinals but Arizona will come out of it looking good too if they trade smartly in the draft. Having been so successful with the Will Anderson trade, I am hoping they would be willing to make an offer for 1.23.Ossenfort certainly set himself up to be in the best position possible. He can sit still and get a great player like MHJ. He can trade down 4-5 slots and still get another great WR or probably the best pass rusher (Latu/Turner) and get another 2025 1st and a 2024 2nd or 3rd. If somehow Daniels falls to 4 I bet Atlanta will trade the farm to get him, also possibly Denver would make a move up to 4 by giving up Surtain/1-12/2-45 and a 2025 1st.
I could see a worst to 1st for the Cards if Murray can stay healthy and more consistent.
the Texans did really well trading with the Cardinals but Arizona will come out of it looking good too if they trade smartly in the draft. Having been so successful with the Will Anderson trade, I am hoping they would be willing to make an offer for 1.23.
1.4 and 1.23 and 1.27 awesome and that's without trades as you mention.
How often do these pass rushers that don't produce in college end up showing out in the pros? I'd prefer taking the guy with more production that has fewer holes in his game, even if he's not as twitched up.Love what's in Chop's tool box. I see him as a slightly lesser Parsons. Extremely quick 1st step, he's got the power and the wiggle. Needs to get stronger in the run game and I would re-sign Barnett to give Chop a chance to just rush the passer as a rookie. The thought of WA/Sign Jones in FA/Collins/Chop russing the passer is elite stuff.
Yeah, I’m here as well. College production isn’t everything, but I do think that a pass rusher who doesn’t produce in college is unlikely to produce in the pros.How often do these pass rushers that don't produce in college end up showing out in the pros? I'd prefer taking the guy with more production that has fewer holes in his game, even if he's not as twitched up.
How often do these pass rushers that don't produce in college end up showing out in the pros? I'd prefer taking the guy with more production that has fewer holes in his game, even if he's not as twitched up.
This is why Latu is my favorite edge in the draft.How often do these pass rushers that don't produce in college end up showing out in the pros? I'd prefer taking the guy with more production that has fewer holes in his game, even if he's not as twitched up.
I would probably take Darius over Chop, because he's a more rounded, mature player and the Texans are ready to win now. But I'm not sure I take either at 1.23. Kamara is a 3rd day pick that is a better 3-4 fit.If given the choice would you pick Darius Robinson over Chop? Another guy I like quite a bit is Kamara from Colorado St.
I would say that Parsons worked out pretty well. However I get your point.I would probably take Darius over Chop, because he's a more rounded, mature player and the Texans are ready to win now. But I'm not sure I take either at 1.23. Kamara is a 3rd day pick that is a better 3-4 fit.
Lance likes his edge rushers tooled up, whether they produce or not. But I ask you, when has taking a pass rusher that didn't produce in college work out?
Let's talk about Latu for a moment.This is why Latu is my favorite edge in the draft.
I've heard some teams have him off their boards. Others have him highly rated. Doubtful he makes it to 1-23. But if he does I would probably take the chance. Guys really talented and all about football.Let's talk about Latu for a moment.
1) He's the best edge rusher in the draft, right now. Maybe some of the younger guys get to where he is? Who knows.
2) All I know about his neck condition is that it led to a retirement, which he ended. Two schools looked at the situation and came to different conclusions.
3) @CloakNNNdagger gave his most learned and expert opinion regarding what he has learned about Latu's neck condition. You have to be concerned about the young man.
4) Injuries and the Texans. There are teams that takes chances in the draft regarding injuries. Among them are the Texans. Now would they take a chance on this specific condition? I have no idea.
5) If deemed healthy enough to continue his football career, would I want Latu playing for the Texans? Absolutely. Likely the best defender in this draft, right now.
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Lance Zierlein 2024 NFL mock draft 1.0: Falcons, Patriots make trades to land QBs
In his first mock of the 2024 NFL Draft, Lance Zierlein projects the Falcons and Patriots will make trades to nab quarterbacks. Check out the complete first-round projection, 1-32.www.nfl.com
Houston takes Chop Robinson
YepIf it falls like this im on the phone trying to trade up to take Bowers in front of the Colts.
There's always going to be a team or two that will for their own reasons find a way to clear him medically. I'd be more than a little skeptical if most medical evaluations didn't see fit to do so...........especially as a high pick.3) @CloakNNNdagger gave his most learned and expert opinion regarding what he has learned about Latu's neck condition. You have to be concerned about the young man.
4) Injuries and the Texans. There are teams that takes chances in the draft regarding injuries. Among them are the Texans. Now would they take a chance on this specific condition? I have no idea.
5) If deemed healthy enough to continue his football career, would I want Latu playing for the Texans? Absolutely. Likely the best defender in this draft, right now.
Seems like there are differing medical opinions. Not having any issues for the last 2 yrs makes him draftable for me, even worth trading up for. The downside is he may only be able to play through his 1st contract?There's always going to be a team or two that will for their own reasons find a way to clear him medically. I'd be more than a little skeptical if most medical evaluations didn't see fit to do so...........especially as a high pick.