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Perhaps he uses Tide hypo allergenic?If I was Goodell I would have a towel flown in from the Houstonian.
(I bet it ain’t itchy.)
Then I would ask Watson - why would you need to bring your own towel to a five star hotel like the Houstonian if you ain’t up to no good? (Using double negatives purposely.)
That is the end of the conversation.
No pro athlete gets that many massages from different massage therapists in their career compared to what Watson did over a month. And bring their own towel. And get their own massage table.
It is open and shut.
There is no rebuttal.
I'm simply guessing that the purpose of Watson using the Houstonian was to impress and as part of his sinister plan to seduce the unsuspecting masseuse.Some things are very confusing to me. The Houstonian full membership does indeed have an age requirement of at least 29 years old. But they also have a young adult membership for those 21-29 years old. The latter has some restrictions to the benefits, but includes access to most of the things that Watson would "need"..........except maybe the "massage and relaxation room." But he never took advantage of the membership massage
facility. He always scheduled his massages in a Houstonian Hotel room.............to which access is not given by having a membership. The Hotel rooms must be arranged and paid for separately, with the only benefit to a member being a 20% discount. So in actuality, a Houstonian Club membership could have been bypassed altogether and Watson could have just booked a Hotel room himself (age requirement for this is only 21 years old). As I understand, he did not take advantage of any of the club membership facilities as he didn't want to be routinely recognized. "His" membership was not in his own name. The rules of membership allows use by a guest (which he technically was, since the membership was not in his name) only twice a month. Lots of things about this whole mess is very curious to me.
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Why not just keep activity inside your own home? What was the need to go to the Houstonian or any other type facility?
Surely the Texans were aware of Watson's ongoing shenanigans. The trainer provided a massage table for off-property use, the Head of Security provided an NDA, and the Houstonian filed a complaint with the Texans for what they perceived as inappropriate, disturbing, and alarming behavior. Genuine Touch the massage company contracted by the Texans contacted the Texans and noted Watson's disturbing behavior. All of these happened months before Watson signed his new 2nd 5-year contract for $177MM. Are we to believe that the Texans ignored all of this, failed to do their due diligence, and blindly offered up the biggest contract in team history?
That's what we figured when we talked yesterday.NFL responding to the false report that likely came from Mulugheta
Watson may be an idiot but he’s not dumb enough to let the families of his many victims know where he lives.
Why not just keep activity inside your own home? What was the need to go to the Houstonian or any other type facility?
Florio and Breer are better connected to the nfl as a whole than probably anyone on this board. They go to league meetings and all the other league stuff. Nobody knows, its just alot of speculation. It should surprise nobody whatever the suspension is. It could be 6-8, I'm thinking 12, but it could be 1 year provided he gets counseling and does the other speaking engagements that would aim at some kind of slogan. Everyone wants to be right first it seems. Whatever the punishment, somebody is going to be pissed off its too long or too short. There is no sweet spot in regards to this punishment.Florio reading different tea leaves than some of our members. Hope he's wrong & underestimating the judge's notions on DW4's actions. Blown away that some can see 0 suspensions coming.
Thus, while Tuesday night’s leak of a supposed willingness by the league to not appeal the decision if it lands within the range of a six- or eight-game suspension could be aimed at nudging Judge Robinson from making an unappealable decision that no discipline should be imposed, it’s also possible the league realizes that overturning her decision to impose six or eight games without a good reason for doing so amounts to jumping with both feet into a bear trap of litigation.Deshaun Watson case could be headed to court, eventually
Despite failed efforts by the NFL Players Association to challenge discipline imposed by the NFL on Tom Brady and Ezekiel Elliott in court, the current effort to impose discipline on Deshaun Watson could ultimately be challenged, too.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
Robinson will have to deliberate after the hearing is over (which should be over by Friday).........timeline up to her. But if there is an appeal, the final suspension and fine decision may take another several weeks.Thanks for verifying! Do you think we will have a decision by Friday from robinson?
But the initial decision will be made known correct and then if there is an appeal we will be notified? The decision will not be kept in house and the public be told a decision was made but an appeal has been made.Robinson will have to deliberate after the hearing is over (which should be over by Friday).........timeline up to her. But if there is an appeal, the final suspension and fine decision may take another several weeks.
Nothing in the CBA says that any step of the decision procedure need be made public. In the past, prior to a Disciplinary Officer being involved, the initial decision has been released (prior to appeal). With the introduction of the Disciplinary Officer in the equation, she may order no public announcement until appeals are complete, and final decision made. Of course, leaks cannot be entirely accounted for.But the initial decision will be made known correct and then if there is an appeal we will be notified? The decision will not be kept in house and the public be told a decision was made but an appeal has been made.
That was my concern and I definitely understand no Public Announcement until appeals are completed but that could take some time. I just want it to be over as I'm sure everybody does.Nothing in the CBA says that any step of the decision procedure need be made public. In the past, prior to a Disciplinary Officer being involved, the initial decision has been released (prior to appeal). With the introduction of the Disciplinary Officer in the equation, she may order no public announcement until appeals are complete, and final decision made. Of course, leaks cannot be entirely accounted for.
Nothing in the CBA says that any step of the decision procedure need be made public. In the past, prior to a Disciplinary Officer being involved, the initial decision has been released (prior to appeal). With the introduction of the Disciplinary Officer in the equation, she may order no public
announcement until appeals are complete, and final decision made. Of course, leaks cannot be entirely accounted for.
Yeah, average people are all saints.It seems to me that this is a potential chance to look beyond the Wizard of Oz and it's marketing machine to see the old fat man behind the curtain.
They can push whatever image they want via promotional campaigns, but their actions and business practices reveal them to be either incompetent or accomplices (or a bit of both).
These owners are barely a step above the Haslams when taking a bigger picture perspective of everything.
If there is dirt, I hope it is revealed and they are held accountable. Our society needs to stop elevating the filthy rich above the laws and responsibilities of average people.
Right. A masseuse going to Watson’s room in the Houstonian would only think it was for tea and biscuits.I'm simply guessing that the purpose of Watson using the Houstonian was to impress and as part of his sinister plan to seduce the unsuspecting masseuse.
Yeah cuz Jilly really slowed him downPlus he has a girlfriend as he stated in his deposition.
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Right. A masseuse going to Watson’s room in the Houstonian would only think it was for tea and biscuits.
Wouldn't want 66 women knowing where he lived. Especially after abusing them.Why not just keep activity inside your own home? What was the need to go to the Houstonian or any other type facility?
Lawsuit Against Texans Reveals Six More Women Could File Lawsuits Against Deshaun Watson
Read “Lawsuit Against Texans Reveals Six More Women Could File Lawsuits Against Deshaun Watson ” and other NFL articles from Total Pro Sports.www.totalprosports.com
This is far from over.
Four of the women refused to settle, they want their day in court.
There are at least 6 more possible criminal cases, . The same 6 could also file civil suits.
Then there's the suspension which has been referred to as "Indefinite" .
From June 21 ....
I'm not in the hearing (just like everyone else here). But I get the feeling from reports that the NFL is taking the wrong tack by arguing Watson's behavior in the massage sessions. Despite the sentiment among many here, that will be a tough call with no physical evidence and no police reports at the time of the incidents. What can't be argued by Watson or the NFLPA is the multiple violations of the NFL COVID policies. Teams lost draft picks for violating these policies. Watson was beyond flagrant in his abuse of these policies. To be honest, the Texans should be punished by the league if they knew Watson was violating COVID policies. I can see a year's suspension alone for breaking COVID protocols numerous times.Florio reading different tea leaves than some of our members. Hope he's wrong & underestimating the judge's notions on DW4's actions. Blown away that some can see 0 suspensions coming.
Thus, while Tuesday night’s leak of a supposed willingness by the league to not appeal the decision if it lands within the range of a six- or eight-game suspension could be aimed at nudging Judge Robinson from making an unappealable decision that no discipline should be imposed, it’s also possible the league realizes that overturning her decision to impose six or eight games without a good reason for doing so amounts to jumping with both feet into a bear trap of litigation.Deshaun Watson case could be headed to court, eventually
Despite failed efforts by the NFL Players Association to challenge discipline imposed by the NFL on Tom Brady and Ezekiel Elliott in court, the current effort to impose discipline on Deshaun Watson could ultimately be challenged, too.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
No physical evidence? There’s text messages, depositions, cash payments. There’s text messages of him asking for his rectum to be massaged. There are text messages of not only him apologizing, but asking more than one woman “are you okay?”There’s text messages of him asking for no one else to be around (which is dangerous btw). They are not wrong to argue his behavior, because by policy it is in there that not only if you tarnish the name of the NFL, if you put anyone else in danger because of your actions that constitutes a violation as well.I'm not in the hearing (just like everyone else here). But I get the feeling from reports that the NFL is taking the wrong tack by arguing Watson's behavior in the massage sessions. Despite the sentiment among many here, that will be a tough call with no physical evidence and no police reports at the time of the incidents. What can't be argued by Watson or the NFLPA is the multiple violations of the NFL COVID policies. Teams lost draft picks for violating these policies. Watson was beyond flagrant in his abuse of these policies. To be honest, the Texans should be punished by the league if they knew Watson was violating COVID policies. I can see a year's suspension alone for breaking COVID protocols numerous times.
I'm not in the hearing (just like everyone else here). But I get the feeling from reports that the NFL is taking the wrong tack by arguing Watson's behavior in the massage sessions. Despite the sentiment among many here, that will be a tough call with no physical evidence and no police reports at the time of the incidents. What can't be argued by Watson or the NFLPA is the multiple violations of the NFL COVID policies. Teams lost draft picks for violating these policies. Watson was beyond flagrant in his abuse of these policies. To be honest, the Texans should be punished by the league if they knew Watson was violating COVID policies. I can see a year's suspension alone for breaking COVID protocols numerous times.
I believe @CloakNNNdagger brought this up very early. No, breaking COVID protocol is not as heinous as sexual assault. But it's much more provable, and there are no extenuating circumstances as to why Watson would need to break protocal.I’m surprised nobody in the media has brought up the Covid angle.
I'm not in the hearing (just like everyone else here). But I get the feeling from reports that the NFL is taking the wrong tack by arguing Watson's behavior in the massage sessions. Despite the sentiment among many here, that will be a tough call with no physical evidence and no police reports at the time of the incidents. What can't be argued by Watson or the NFLPA is the multiple violations of the NFL COVID policies. Teams lost draft picks for violating these policies. Watson was beyond flagrant in his abuse of these policies. To be honest, the Texans should be punished by the league if they knew Watson was violating COVID policies. I can see a year's suspension alone for breaking COVID protocols numerous times.
No physical evidence? There’s text messages, depositions, cash payments. There’s text messages of him asking for his rectum to be massaged. There are text messages of not only him apologizing, but asking more than one woman “are you okay?”There’s text messages of him asking for no one else to be around (which is dangerous btw). They are not wrong to argue his behavior, because by policy it is in there that not only if you tarnish the name of the NFL, if you put anyone else in danger because of your actions that constitutes a violation as well.
There are also police reports.
True. But the Texans were not going to allow Watson to play last year with the investigation by the DA office still ongoing. There was no way Watson would ever be on the field last season. Still, that wasn't a league directive, and I don't see how an agreement between the Texans and Watson plays into the suspension.Wrong. He purposely sat out demanding a trade. That’s on him.
Watson still got paid with no fines and full cap hit and counted against the roster the entire yearTrue. But the Texans were not going to allow Watson to play last year with the investigation by the DA office still ongoing. There was no way Watson would ever be on the field last season. Still, that wasn't a league directive, and I don't see how an agreement between the Texans and Watson plays into the suspension.
All of that plays in a civil suit where witnesses can be called, and a jury can decide on the preponderance of this type of evidence. That's not enough to convict Watson criminally, nor should it be enough for an indefinite suspension. It's not like Judge Robinson will hear from these witnesses directly. It's still a "he said, she said case".No physical evidence? There’s text messages, depositions...