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You don't think Watt cared about fans?
I can think of 37 million reasons why JJ Watt cared about the fans...
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Everyone is attacking that comment and have us in full tank mode because after our final preseason game we traded Roby? I for one don’t know what he meant by it and of course nobody else does either. dC said in his presser today that both he and the players play every game to win. Said players have a short term memory and want to win now. But my thought is that NC meant that his job this year is to turn this ship around and to clean up cap space and get HIS players while still wanting to win, but he’s dispelling rumors that DC is being set up to be fired. He seems to have put together a well rounded team, O, D and ST’s By bringing in, and continuing to bring in players that have had some success in the NFL. Odd way to tank. Nobody in the NFL had as little to work with as he did. He’s just trying to do a delicate balancing act…bringing in and coaching players to win vs making tough decisions to try to forward this roster as quickly as possible.When Nick said this during an interview, “ this year isn’t results driven, it’s process driven”, they lost me. Reason being, you should always attack the season with the mindset to win. If it doesn’t work out for your team, then you start making preparations for the draft and the following year.
To be fair, JJ recently made the comment that he really likes Houston and the fans and wants to continue to have a presence there.I can think of 37 million reasons why JJ Watt cared about the fans...
Everyone is attacking that comment and have us in full tank mode because after our final preseason game we traded Roby? I for one don’t know what he meant by it and of course nobody else does either. dC said in his presser that both he and the players play every game to win. Said players have a short term memory and want to win now. But my thought is that NC meant that his job this year is to turn this ship around and to clean up cap space and get HIS players while still wanting to win, but he’s dispelling rumors that DC is being set up to be fired. He seems to have put together a well rounded team, O, D and ST’s By bringing in, and continuing to bring in players that have had some success in the NFL. Odd way to tank. Nobody in the NFL had as little to work with as he did. He’s just trying to do a delicate balancing act…bringing in and coaching players to win vs making tough decisions to try to forward this roster as quickly as possible.
To be fair, JJ recently made the comment that he really likes Houston and the fans and wants to continue to have a presence there.
They liked Miller a lot more. amendola is depth. Either one they feel is > Keke. I believe their directions are gin clear. Improve the roster while moving parts around to clean up several years of neglect. Two steps forward one back. Not everybody’s ideal but this was handed to these guys. Tell me, how do you play to win without tanking while still trying to clean up the roster….and having a depleted draft to work with. EVERYONE will find something to fault because this didn’t come with instructions except from these threads.They don’t have any directions right now. You know my predictions, but as of right now it doesn’t seem like it will come to pass. They got rid of Keke just to bring in a 37 year old vet. Crazy thing, he wasn’t having a bad camp. Things could change after the first 5 games.
I see it as a 3rd RD pick Caserio will use to trade for a player who would likely be cut, then restructure his contract and then trade him for a 6th RD pick or end up cutting him while eating $8MM of his salary in the process. This seems to be the method to Caserio's madness. There is a 90% chance this 3rd RD pick will not be used by the Texans in the 2022 draft.
Of course you would see it this way. I'm hoping they use the Saints 3rd and the Texans high 4th to move back into the 2nd rd.
1-1
2-33
2-48 or so without trading the 3rd string QB.
Not bad, if Caserio gets lucky and is able to add a couple of 1sts for the 3rd string QB then that would be adding 5 top 50 picks in the 2022 draft. Not a bad way to start a rebuild.
They liked Miller a lot more. amendola is depth. Either one they feel is > Keke. I believe their directions are gin clear. Improve the roster while moving parts around to clean up several years of neglect. Two steps forward one back. Not everybody’s ideal but this was handed to these guys. Tell me, how do you play to win without tanking while still trying to clean up the roster….and having a depleted draft to work with. EVERYONE will find something to fault because this didn’t come with instructions except from these threads.
I do have a problem, however, with people who think this roster clean out means that they could do some damage this year with 8 or 9 wins or whatever.
The Texans are working out former Bengals 1st round CB Dre Kirkpatrick today.
Over the top dislike is not reserved for just the GM...
The Hate around here for Cal is very misplaced too .....
Lots of people mad about the preacher but no one wants to understand the circumstances that brought him into play in the first place .... That all starts with Watson's behavior and his mother's request. All parties , accept for Watson had Watson's best interests at heart and he blew that whole situation up with his actions.
Just about every problem / issue the Texans have had in the past two years is related to one person - Watson and literally every decision the team made over that period of time was in an effort to save him from himself .... to no avail.
What I can fault Cal for is not firing OB after 51-7 .... but even that does absolutely nothing to change the course of events as the demand that Hopkins be moved was already made (maybe they get a better deal?) & the Instagram hoes issue had long been underway , going back at least as far as September 2019.
Hell I made first mention of it in April 2020 , a full year ahead of the story breaking and Buzbee's civil suits and I knew about the issues long before that as for weeks I eluded to why Hopkins not being told by the media or the team.
Watson's off field actions are the single biggest factor in the destruction of this team. That was the domino that set the rest in motion.
When Nick said this during an interview, “ this year isn’t results driven, it’s process driven”, they lost me. Reason being, you should always attack the season with the mindset to win. If it doesn’t work out for your team, then you start making preparations for the draft and the following year.
The Hate around here for Cal is very misplaced too .....
Lots of people mad about the preacher but no one wants to understand the circumstances that brought him into play in the first place .... That all starts with Watson's behavior and his mother's request. All parties , accept for Watson had Watson's best interests at heart and he blew that whole situation up with his actions.
Just about every problem / issue the Texans have had in the past two years is related to one person - Watson and literally every decision the team made over that period of time was in an effort to save him from himself .... to no avail.
What I can fault Cal for is not firing OB after 51-7 .... but even that does absolutely nothing to change the course of events as the demand that Hopkins be moved was already made (maybe they get a better deal?) & the Instagram hoes issue had long been underway , going back at least as far as September 2019.
Hell I made first mention of it in April 2020 , a full year ahead of the story breaking and Buzbee's civil suits and I knew about the issues long before that as for weeks I eluded to why Hopkins not being told by the media or the team.
Watson's off field actions are the single biggest factor in the destruction of this team. That was the domino that set the rest in motion.
When Nick said this during an interview, “ this year isn’t results driven, it’s process driven”, they lost me. Reason being, you should always attack the season with the mindset to win. If it doesn’t work out for your team, then you start making preparations for the draft and the following year.
The Hate around here for Cal is very misplaced too .....
Lots of people mad about the preacher but no one wants to understand the circumstances that brought him into play in the first place .... That all starts with Watson's behavior and his mother's request. All parties , accept for Watson had Watson's best interests at heart and he blew that whole situation up with his actions.
Just about every problem / issue the Texans have had in the past two years is related to one person - Watson and literally every decision the team made over that period of time was in an effort to save him from himself .... to no avail.
What I can fault Cal for is not firing OB after 51-7 .... but even that does absolutely nothing to change the course of events as the demand that Hopkins be moved was already made (maybe they get a better deal?) & the Instagram hoes issue had long been underway , going back at least as far as September 2019.
Hell I made first mention of it in April 2020 , a full year ahead of the story breaking and Buzbee's civil suits and I knew about the issues long before that as for weeks I eluded to why Hopkins not being told by the media or the team.
Watson's off field actions are the single biggest factor in the destruction of this team. That was the domino that set the rest in motion.
They are building a culture, man, which is far more important than winning games.
I openly criticize Cal, but I don't hate the man. He's probably a nice guy.
But, he's a dumb owner. And for that, he deserves all the heat that he gets. He's in over his head. He's hiring unqualified people (O'Brien as GM, Easterby as whatever, etc.), and promises a player that he gets to be a part of the boardroom decisions when he clearly did not mean it. That's just dumb dumb dumb. It's crap that Bob McNair would never have allowed.
They should do a 30 for 30 or Netflix documentary on this.
Just unbelievable and bizarre.
No one would believe a multi millionaire in his prime would do something so stupid.
They are building a culture, man, which is far more important than winning games.
I openly criticize Cal, but I don't hate the man. He's probably a nice guy.
But, he's a dumb owner. And for that, he deserves all the heat that he gets. He's in over his head. He's hiring unqualified people (O'Brien as GM, Easterby as whatever, etc.), and promises a player that he gets to be a part of the boardroom decisions when he clearly did not mean it. That's just dumb dumb dumb. It's crap that Bob McNair would never have allowed.
Singing Amen to the dolla and glad to get itThey liked Miller a lot more. amendola is depth. Either one they feel is > Keke. I believe their directions are gin clear. Improve the roster while moving parts around to clean up several years of neglect. Two steps forward one back. Not everybody’s ideal but this was handed to these guys. Tell me, how do you play to win without tanking while still trying to clean up the roster….and having a depleted draft to work with. EVERYONE will find something to fault because this didn’t come with instructions except from these threads.
I agree 100%! I just wish I knew what Dashaun mom is doing if anything's to straighten out her son. Not sure she has any influence any more.The Hate around here for Cal is very misplaced too .....
Lots of people mad about the preacher but no one wants to understand the circumstances that brought him into play in the first place .... That all starts with Watson's behavior and his mother's request. All parties , accept for Watson had Watson's best interests at heart and he blew that whole situation up with his actions.
Just about every problem / issue the Texans have had in the past two years is related to one person - Watson and literally every decision the team made over that period of time was in an effort to save him from himself .... to no avail.
What I can fault Cal for is not firing OB after 51-7 .... but even that does absolutely nothing to change the course of events as the demand that Hopkins be moved was already made (maybe they get a better deal?) & the Instagram hoes issue had long been underway , going back at least as far as September 2019.
Hell I made first mention of it in April 2020 , a full year ahead of the story breaking and Buzbee's civil suits and I knew about the issues long before that as for weeks I eluded to why Hopkins not being told by the media or the team.
Watson's off field actions are the single biggest factor in the destruction of this team. That was the domino that set the rest in motion.
I am over the what ifs and could have been. Tell it straight and fix it. Yesterday’s gone. Yesterday’s gone.Not me .... I'm sure they are going to try their best every Sunday to win but they just lack the talent to do it.
He was being realistic and I appreciate the honesty from the GM.
Sometimes you just have to tear down the charred remains and rebuild.
I agree about Watson's off the field behavior are of his own doing and has been the biggest factor in the state of the franchise. However, why in the world did they stand around beaming like proud parents and give Watson $160 million without any indication that he addressed these "known" issues or putting a plan in place to correct his behavior? Watson did not give himself that contract. If they knew of these issues, why give him that contract without some pre-conditions? If O'Brien could address Hopkins and his "baby mamma" issue, what prevented him from doing the same with Watson?The Hate around here for Cal is very misplaced too .....
Lots of people mad about the preacher but no one wants to understand the circumstances that brought him into play in the first place .... That all starts with Watson's behavior and his mother's request. All parties , accept for Watson had Watson's best interests at heart and he blew that whole situation up with his actions.
Just about every problem / issue the Texans have had in the past two years is related to one person - Watson and literally every decision the team made over that period of time was in an effort to save him from himself .... to no avail.
What I can fault Cal for is not firing OB after 51-7 .... but even that does absolutely nothing to change the course of events as the demand that Hopkins be moved was already made (maybe they get a better deal?) & the Instagram hoes issue had long been underway , going back at least as far as September 2019.
Hell I made first mention of it in April 2020 , a full year ahead of the story breaking and Buzbee's civil suits and I knew about the issues long before that as for weeks I eluded to why Hopkins not being told by the media or the team.
Watson's off field actions are the single biggest factor in the destruction of this team. That was the domino that set the rest in motion.
Will SOMEONE please prove this Easterby crap so we can move on. Of course that is wishful thinking since peoples personal politics taint this issue, if it’s true, PROVE IT!I agree about Watson's off the field behavior are of his own doing and has been the biggest factor in the state of the franchise. However, why in the world did they stand around beaming like proud parents and give Watson $160 million without any indication that he addressed these "known" issues or putting a plan in place to correct his behavior? Watson did not give himself that contract. If they knew of these issues, why give him that contract without some pre-conditions? If O'Brien could address Hopkins and his "baby mamma" issue, what prevented him from doing the same with Watson?
As far as the Hopkins' trade. There were more posts advocating for his trade because of him not practicing, having too much locker room influence, getting too many of the WR targets or making Watson a better QB by taking away his "blankie". The problem I have with this new narrative is that if the McNairs recognized an issue and Easterby was brought in to "fix" these issues, he failed miserably. Yet similar to the excuses made when Hopkins was traded, we are still posting like the hiring of Easterby accomplished anything or kept the Texans from the situation they are in today.
I think you are TOTALLY WRONG. He temporarily followed his Dads footsteps and Bob ruled. Good guy but I heard it a million times…you don’t win by making changes…and he proved it Hiring OB. To Cal’s credit, after his Dad died he carried over his Dads OB obsession, maybe out of respect…but he gave OB enough rope to hang himself and after four games last year he slapped the horses flank and the rope tightened. The exorcism started at that moment. Bob McNair was the Parmenides of NFL owners. Cal, to his credit, hired the Heraclitus of GM’s. Figure it out.They are building a culture, man, which is far more important than winning games.
I openly criticize Cal, but I don't hate the man. He's probably a nice guy.
But, he's a dumb owner. And for that, he deserves all the heat that he gets. He's in over his head. He's hiring unqualified people (O'Brien as GM, Easterby as whatever, etc.), and promises a player that he gets to be a part of the boardroom decisions when he clearly did not mean it. That's just dumb dumb dumb. It's crap that Bob McNair would never have allowed.
Watson signed his extension in early September 2020. I am not sure Janice McNair was aware of Dashaun's Behavior until much later. Don't know who else was aware and when.I agree about Watson's off the field behavior are of his own doing and has been the biggest factor in the state of the franchise. However, why in the world did they stand around beaming like proud parents and give Watson $160 million without any indication that he addressed these "known" issues or putting a plan in place to correct his behavior? Watson did not give himself that contract. If they knew of these issues, why give him that contract without some pre-conditions? If O'Brien could address Hopkins and his "baby mamma" issue, what prevented him from doing the same with Watson?
As far as the Hopkins' trade. There were more posts advocating for his trade because of him not practicing, having too much locker room influence, getting too many of the WR targets or making Watson a better QB by taking away his "blankie". The problem I have with this new narrative is that if the McNairs recognized an issue and Easterby was brought in to "fix" these issues, he failed miserably. Yet similar to the excuses made when Hopkins was traded, we are still posting like the hiring of Easterby accomplished anything or kept the Texans from the situation they are in today.
This is what I don't understand.I agree about Watson's off the field behavior are of his own doing and has been the biggest factor in the state of the franchise. However, why in the world did they stand around beaming like proud parents and give Watson $160 million without any indication that he addressed these "known" issues or putting a plan in place to correct his behavior? Watson did not give himself that contract. If they knew of these issues, why give him that contract without some pre-conditions? If O'Brien could address Hopkins and his "baby mamma" issue, what prevented him from doing the same with Watson?
Supposedly at least one person had made a complaint with HPD in September of 2019.
Exactly. I can buy/understand that no one knew of Watson's off the field behavior. But, I have a hard time buying this narrative that Easterby was hired to fix this mess, clear out the heathens and rebuild the culture when I look at that $160 million contract and the proud faces at the press conference when they gave him that contract.This is what I don't understand.
Supposedly at least one person had made a complaint with HPD in September of 2019. Nearly a year later on September 5 2020 the Texans sign a 160 million dollar contract with Watson with $110,717,123 guaranteed.
So according to this, Cal & Easterby knowingly signed an extension almost 2 seasons before Watson's contract expired (including the fifth-year option at $17.5 million which the Texans exercised prior to the May 4, 2020 deadline) with someone with at least one sexual assault complaint already filed with the police.
I don't know any other word for this but total incompetence & this in itself should have been enough to get Easterby gone.
Hell I don't know. Honestly the whole thing sickens me & I have not been following it at all. All the info I have is what little I have read here so I very well could have gotten it wrong about the dates.Filed in 2019 or claimed the incident took place in 2019?
I feel like whoever plays in the slot will lead the team in receiving on a week to week basis. Whether that’s a WR, TE or one of our RBs motioned out to the slot. Tyrod will be working the slot machines when he’s not handing the ball to one of the RBs.
I agree about Watson's off the field behavior are of his own doing and has been the biggest factor in the state of the franchise. However, why in the world did they stand around beaming like proud parents and give Watson $160 million without any indication that he addressed these "known" issues or putting a plan in place to correct his behavior? Watson did not give himself that contract. If they knew of these issues, why give him that contract without some pre-conditions? If O'Brien could address Hopkins and his "baby mamma" issue, what prevented him from doing the same with Watson?
As far as the Hopkins' trade. There were more posts advocating for his trade because of him not practicing, having too much locker room influence, getting too many of the WR targets or making Watson a better QB by taking away his "blankie". The problem I have with this new narrative is that if the McNairs recognized an issue and Easterby was brought in to "fix" these issues, he failed miserably. Yet similar to the excuses made when Hopkins was traded, we are still posting like the hiring of Easterby accomplished anything or kept the Texans from the situation they are in today.
Seems to me that if NYC’s twin towers could be taken out without expectations DW could easily hide his IG escapades.
Has anyone told you that you're not good at analogies?Seems to me that if NYC’s twin towers could be taken out without expectations DW could easily hide his IG escapades.
There's not a rule against classless takes. There is one against personal attacks.Mods let his post stand but not my response?
Delete his azz.
Seems to me that if NYC’s twin towers could be taken out without expectations DW could easily hide his IG escapades.
The Colts season may ride on their QB situation.We'll see after the Jags game, how good or bad the Texans are. If the Texans beat the Jags, it's quite possible that the Texans aren't last in the division this season. From looking at the schedules, the Jags may end up last again. TBH, I'm really not sure about the Colts this season. The Colts could also be fighting for the worst record in the division.
Texans just ate $7 million on Roby trade. I doubt 600,000 chokes them much.Just to rub a little salt in the wound Watson's game check will be $620,000 for this Sunday.
Texans just ate $7 million on Roby trade. I doubt 600,000 chokes them much.
We'll see after the Jags game, how good or bad the Texans are. If the Texans beat the Jags, it's quite possible that the Texans aren't last in the division this season. From looking at the schedules, the Jags may end up last again. TBH, I'm really not sure about the Colts this season. The Colts could also be fighting for the worst record in the division.
Which is all irrelevant to my point. Even though I expect the Texans to not be very good, I think this game will show if the Jags are worse. If the Texans can beat the Jags, it's a very good possibility that every other team can beat the Jags.You do realize the Jags were 1-0 last year then proceeded to lose the next 15, right? Hell, the Texans were 2-0 in 2013, big come from behind road win, big OT win against a division rival, things looking up, a lot of promise, then they lose the next 14 in row. This 1st game of the season isn’t going to define anything. If they win, they beat a team that was 1-15 last year. And it's one of the few games even the most pessimistic thought they could win. And if they lose, it's one game. It doesn't mean look out 0-17, here we come.
Hey, remember that time the Bills beat the Patriots 31-0 in week 1? How horrible of a season did they end up having?
Like when the Jags beat the Colts in week 1 last year? If the Jags can beat them, it's a good possibility every other team can beat them. It doesn't quite work that way.Which is all irrelevant to my point. Even though I expect the Texans to not be very good, I think this game will show if the Jags are worse. If the Texans can beat the Jags, it's a very good possibility that every other team can beat the Jags.
Week 1 is an extension of the preseason. Especially for "new" offenses & defenses.Which is all irrelevant to my point. Even though I expect the Texans to not be very good, I think this game will show if the Jags are worse. If the Texans can beat the Jags, it's a very good possibility that every other team can beat the Jags.