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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson

Lucky said:
The NFL is not going to create a circus by allowing Watson to play before this has ended. That means no trade.
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It is possible a team could trade for Watson once it knows the criminal and civil claims are resolved. Most indication seems to be if the NFL suspends D W it will be from 8 games to 16. As a team does not have to pay him for those I could see a team like Eagles making a trade sooner rather than later to lock him in for their future.
 
cbs1507 said:
Well you got the story part right. Allegedly it isn't about money, which is why they are suing for the minimum $500. But now it's coming out that they are trying to settle with Watson and want the settlement to remain confidential, whereas Watson is pushing for full disclosure. unfurl="true"]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...identiality-of-any-deshaun-watson-settlement/[/URL]
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If Busby was actually willing to settle for the $500 why is he demanding non-disclosure of the amounts?
 
Lucky said:
Yes. Once everything is resolved. From the looks of things, that will be a very long time from now.
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Sports Illustrated article when I read it earlier this week indicated to me that resolution would be for the civil and Criminal. The NFL should be able to make a decision relatively soon after. For example if the article is correct and an agreement had been resolved and all the attorneys are debating is NDA that could be resolved next week with the NFL making its decision within days after.
 
Lucky said:
The NFL is not going to create a circus by allowing Watson to play before this has ended. That means no trade.
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That may be true but I believe the longer this thing draws out the media/public sensation will start to dull. Also I could be wrong but wasn't Big Ben's case settled after his suspension was served?
 
Dejaview said:
Good god that was hard to follow. It’s troubling enough that without a final solution I don’t see how the NFL could let him play before the issue is decided which may fall to the attorneys grand kids. The fact that SI reported this IMO makes the NFL’s job even more difficult. I’m getting to the point where I believe just the known facts are so sordid that any team trading for him risks a hailstorm of fan complaints.
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My guess is NFL gives DW4 an Indefinite Suspension without pay.
 
KoolAid Sipper said:
Also I could be wrong but wasn't Big Ben's case settled after his suspension was served?
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There were 2 Big Ben assault allegations. The first one was settled, but no suspension. The second, the local authorities did not press charges and no lawsuit was pursued. Even though no charges were brought against Roethlisberger, the NFL suspended him for 6 games (later reduced to 4).
 
www.newsbreakapp.com

Texans: Cal McNair knew his attorney contacted lawyers in Deshaun Watson cases to suggest mediation - NewsBreak

When attorney Tony Buzbee first suggested that the Texans had a role in trying to broker a settlement of the 22 cases pending against Deshaun Watson, the Texans had no official comment. They now do. An article from SI.com regarding the Watson situation included...
www.newsbreakapp.com www.newsbreakapp.com

When attorney Tony Buzbee first suggested that the Texans had a role in trying to broker a settlement of the 22 cases pending against Deshaun Watson, the Texans had no official comment. They now do.

An article from SI.com regarding the Watson situation included this comment from the team: “Mr. [Cal] McNair was aware that his personal attorney contacted both parties to suggest mediation. Mr. McNair has had no personal involvement in any of those discussions. The Houston Texans organization has not had any direct contact with either party.”
 
cbs1507 said:
Well you got the story part right. Allegedly it isn't about money, which is why they are suing for the minimum $500. But now it's coming out that they are trying to settle with Watson and want the settlement to remain confidential, whereas Watson is pushing for full disclosure.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Tony Buzbee confirms demand for confidentiality of any Deshaun Watson settlement

After several weeks of silence in the Deshaun Watson litigation, the lawyers dusted off their back and forth last week, squabbling over the question of which of them made the first move regarding settlement.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
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I dunno but sure is sounding more and more like a shakedown lately, right ?
 
badboy said:
If Busby was actually willing to settle for the $500 why is he demanding non-disclosure of the amounts?
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Yeah I don't get the, "must be nothing to brag about." Conclusion. They may be getting millions & not wanting Watson to say, "all they wanted was money."

I'm no lawyer, & I know it's hard to get a rape conviction in cases like these where they weren't reported right away & therefore no rape kit.

But with all the corroborated discussions they could easily conviction him for indecent exposure & several deviant type charges like that.

I can't see them settling for $500 if it doesn't come with a public apology & admission of guilt. & I can't see Watson publicly apologizing & definitely not admitting guilt.
 
Texansballer74 said:
www.newsbreakapp.com

Texans: Cal McNair knew his attorney contacted lawyers in Deshaun Watson cases to suggest mediation - NewsBreak

When attorney Tony Buzbee first suggested that the Texans had a role in trying to broker a settlement of the 22 cases pending against Deshaun Watson, the Texans had no official comment. They now do. An article from SI.com regarding the Watson situation included...
www.newsbreakapp.com www.newsbreakapp.com

When attorney Tony Buzbee first suggested that the Texans had a role in trying to broker a settlement of the 22 cases pending against Deshaun Watson, the Texans had no official comment. They now do.

An article from SI.com regarding the Watson situation included this comment from the team: “Mr. [Cal] McNair was aware that his personal attorney contacted both parties to suggest mediation. Mr. McNair has had no personal involvement in any of those discussions. The Houston Texans organization has not had any direct contact with either party.”
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John McClain on 610 radio about this:
"An attorney who knows both Buzbee and Hardin and has worked for McNairs in the past reached out to both parties to talk about mediation. It didn’t work. After he did it, the attorney told Cal McNair about it. McNair had nothing to do with it. The Texans have had no contact that has anything to do with Watson or his cases."
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The last contact the team had directly with Watson was months ago when he demanded a trade just before his legal problems became public.

Per the SI article, a woman who had referred Watson to another massage therapist "told Watson’s marketing manager about potential litigation" end of December/early January. This same woman admitted in a November 2019 text message knowledge of Watson's behavior, and admitted she spoke to him about it then but declined to share details of that conversation, calling it “confidential.”
 
cbs1507 said:
Well you got the story part right. Allegedly it isn't about money, which is why they are suing for the minimum $500. But now it's coming out that they are trying to settle with Watson and want the settlement to remain confidential, whereas Watson is pushing for full disclosure.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Tony Buzbee confirms demand for confidentiality of any Deshaun Watson settlement

After several weeks of silence in the Deshaun Watson litigation, the lawyers dusted off their back and forth last week, squabbling over the question of which of them made the first move regarding settlement.
profootballtalk.nbcsports.com profootballtalk.nbcsports.com
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badboy said:
If Busby was actually willing to settle for the $500 why is he demanding non-disclosure of the amounts?
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I keep on reading on the MB about this $500 amount, erroneously implying the weakness of Buzbee's case............where in fact it's simply the amount needed and commonly used to get the "foot in the door" to Harris County District Court.

"The State District Court system in Texas are the courts of general jurisdiction in civil cases in which the amount claimed exceeds $500.00. Most civil lawsuits are filed in a district court and if you have been served with a lawsuit in Harris County, the caption will read. “In the District Court of Harris County Texas, ___’th Judicial District. District courts have the power to enter all orders involving all types of state civil lawsuits including, breach of contract, real estate litigation, personal injury litigation, injunctions, business litigation. While the minimum amount claimed must exceed $500.00 to bring a case in district court, there is no limit on the amount that can be awarded in a civil district court lawsuit. Indeed, the district courts of Harris County have issued verdicts in excess of billions of dollars."
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CloakNNNdagger said:
I keep on reading on the MB about this $500 amount, erroneously implying the weakness of Buzbee's case............where in fact it's simply the amount needed and commonly used to get the "foot in the door" to Harris County District Court.

"The State District Court system in Texas are the courts of general jurisdiction in civil cases in which the amount claimed exceeds $500.00. Most civil lawsuits are filed in a district court and if you have been served with a lawsuit in Harris County, the caption will read. “In the District Court of Harris County Texas, ___’th Judicial District. District courts have the power to enter all orders involving all types of state civil lawsuits including, breach of contract, real estate litigation, personal injury litigation, injunctions, business litigation. While the minimum amount claimed must exceed $500.00 to bring a case in district court, there is no limit on the amount that can be awarded in a civil district court lawsuit. Indeed, the district courts of Harris County have issued verdicts in excess of billions of dollars."
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Yes. And I get the $500 limit and it was discussed several pages upstream if I remember correctly. However having said that why is Buzbee pushing for a non-disclosure? That just does not make sense to me. Seems like he would be trumpeting it announcing that he is the stand up attorney to go with in defending women against these type of claims.
 
Another thought in the same vein, it seems like when I hear or read of a lawsuit it asks for millions and millions of dollars and then is negotiated or through appellate procedures lowered. Why did not the defendants attorney take that route? I have not seen anything saying that $500 has to be the amount typed in the blank space.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I keep on reading on the MB about this $500 amount, erroneously implying the weakness of Buzbee's case............where in fact it's simply the amount needed and commonly used to get the "foot in the door" to Harris County District Court.
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I don't have any illusions about anything that's going on, but Buzbee himself made a big deal out of the fact they were only seeking the minimum $500 in their lawsuits in one of his early press conferences implying that the alleged victims weren't after money, but after justice.
 
badboy said:
If Busby was actually willing to settle for the $500 why is he demanding non-disclosure of the amounts?
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Well if he was only suing for the minimum to give the optics that "it's not about money", then Buzbee not settling for only $500 (probably more).

CloakNNNdagger said:
I keep on reading on the MB about this $500 amount, erroneously implying the weakness of Buzbee's case............where in fact it's simply the amount needed and commonly used to get the "foot in the door" to Harris County District Court.
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What does what other people said in this MB, have to do with my comment? I clearly said the $500 was the minimum. But if Buzbee sued for the minimum to "prove" his clients weren't after money, then why his he demanding confidentiality in a settlement? Their identities are already on public record, by virtue of the lawsuit. So it can't be to hide their identity. The obvious answer is the hide the amount of the settlement, which would likely be over $500.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
I keep on reading on the MB about this $500 amount, erroneously implying the weakness of Buzbee's case............where in fact it's simply the amount needed and commonly used to get the "foot in the door" to Harris County District Court.

"The State District Court system in Texas are the courts of general jurisdiction in civil cases in which the amount claimed exceeds $500.00. Most civil lawsuits are filed in a district court and if you have been served with a lawsuit in Harris County, the caption will read. “In the District Court of Harris County Texas, ___’th Judicial District. District courts have the power to enter all orders involving all types of state civil lawsuits including, breach of contract, real estate litigation, personal injury litigation, injunctions, business litigation. While the minimum amount claimed must exceed $500.00 to bring a case in district court, there is no limit on the amount that can be awarded in a civil district court lawsuit. Indeed, the district courts of Harris County have issued verdicts in excess of billions of dollars."
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Didn’t know that. Makes sense. Kinda like filing a deed with the county for “1$ and other considerations”.
 
Speedy said:
How do you get justice in a civil suit without getting money?
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Saying that "It's not about the money" is not exclusive of saying "It's about justice." In a civil matter, commonly the only way a victim can gain justice is via money................Justice is the immediate goal............Money is simply the vehicle.
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Again, I don't have any illusions about any of this, but you should address these questions to Buzbee, not posters who just repeated what he said.

“This case isn’t about money,” said Buzbee, a high-profile Texas attorney. “We have pleaded the jurisdictional minimum … [of] $500. It’s certainly not about seeking publicity or fame. I personally don’t need it, and these women don’t want it. This case is about female empowerment and taking the power back.
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My mistake, it wasn't about getting justice, it was about taking power back. But definitely not about money.
 
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cbs1507 said:
Well if he was only suing for the minimum to give the optics that "it's not about money", then Buzbee not settling for only $500 (probably more).



What does what other people said in this MB, have to do with my comment? I clearly said the $500 was the minimum. But if Buzbee sued for the minimum to "prove" his clients weren't after money, then why his he demanding confidentiality in a settlement? Their identities are already on public record, by virtue of the lawsuit. So it can't be to hide their identity. The obvious answer is the hide the amount of the settlement, which would likely be over $500.
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If the settlement is confidential does that include keeping the findings of what took place confidential? Maybe that is what the accusers want.
 
cbs1507 said:
Well if he was only suing for the minimum to give the optics that "it's not about money", then Buzbee not settling for only $500 (probably more).



What does what other people said in this MB, have to do with my comment? I clearly said the $500 was the minimum. But if Buzbee sued for the minimum to "prove" his clients weren't after money, then why his he demanding confidentiality in a settlement? Their identities are already on public record, by virtue of the lawsuit. So it can't be to hide their identity. The obvious answer is the hide the amount of the settlement, which would likely be over $500.
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This is SOP

Buzbee doesn't want people to know how much his clients settled for. Rightfully so.

Carry on with today's episode of How the Perv Turns.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Saying that "It's not about the money" is not exclusive of saying "It's about justice." In a civil matter, commonly the only way a victim can gain justice is via money................Justice is the immediate goal............Money is simply the vehicle.
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Then let Buzbee advise each of his clients to ask for a $500 settlement as a matter of principle. They should then turn their focus to the more righteous approach of removing this accused bad actor from the streets of Houston so no other Instagram masseuses have to suffer the indignity or potential assault of servicing this bad actor.

For Buzbee......money is looking like the motivating factor!!!! He doesn’t want folks to see the settlement amounts truly at the core of this situation. The man has presented everything else to the media why stop now. Every woman has been identified and 8 filed criminal charges. I just want to see how this plays out so this can be eliminated from the limelight.
 
I must be in the minority on this issue.

I don't care how much or how little the clients receive in a settlement.

Don't care if he is found guilty or not guilty.

Could not care less what happens to DW financially or personally. Goes broke or goes to jail.
Never plays another down in the NFL or just gets a slap on the wrist.

Don't care how much or how little it costs the Texans, just get rid of the guy.

:coffee:
 
cuppacoffee said:
I must be in the minority on this issue.

I don't care how much or how little the clients receive in a settlement.

Don't care if he is found guilty or not guilty.

Could not care less what happens to DW financially or personally. Goes broke or goes to jail.
Never plays another down in the NFL or just gets a slap on the wrist.

Don't care how much or how little it costs the Texans, just get rid of the guy.

:coffee:
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.....and get some kind of draft capital in the end.
 
cuppacoffee said:
I must be in the minority on this issue.

I don't care how much or how little the clients receive in a settlement.

Don't care if he is found guilty or not guilty.

Could not care less what happens to DW financially or personally. Goes broke or goes to jail.
Never plays another down in the NFL or just gets a slap on the wrist.

Don't care how much or how little it costs the Texans, just get rid of the guy.

:coffee:
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Although I would like to see DW4's money taken from him. Maybe that might humble the perv a little bit. (Doubtful)

I just want things to get back to normal.
 
paycheck71 said:
Again, I don't have any illusions about any of this, but you should address these questions to Buzbee, not posters who just repeated what he said.



My mistake, it wasn't about getting justice, it was about taking power back. But definitely not about money.
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My explanation stands..............money is the vehicle...........whether for justice or its associated empowerment.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
My explanation stands..............money is the vehicle...........whether for justice or its associated empowerment.
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Texian said:
To suggest that this whole charade has nothing to do with money is an exercise in futility.
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I agree, but Buzbee is blowing some smoke up everybody's ass with the claim that it's not about money and about who knows what else. He is the main reason I remain skeptical about some of the claims.
 
paycheck71 said:
I agree, but Buzbee is blowing some smoke up everybody's ass with the claim that it's not about money and about who knows what else. He is the main reason I remain skeptical about some of the claims.
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I was skeptical until I read the SI article.

I was leaning towards guilty, but that SI article pushed me over.

I don’t know about the forcing oral sex thing, but I’m pretty sure he’s a pervert that shouldn’t be unsupervised with members of the opposite sex.
 
Texian said:
To suggest that this whole charade has nothing to do with money is an exercise in futility.
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If DW4 was just some smuck playing semi-pro football instead of being an NFL player worth tens of millions of $s we all know none of this is
happening.
 
thunderkyss said:
I was skeptical until I read the SI article.

I was leaning towards guilty, but that SI article pushed me over.

I don’t know about the forcing oral sex thing, but I’m pretty sure he’s a pervert that shouldn’t be unsupervised with members of the opposite sex.
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This is all I've been saying since the beginning.
 
thunderkyss said:
I was skeptical until I read the SI article.

I was leaning towards guilty, but that SI article pushed me over.

I don’t know about the forcing oral sex thing, but I’m pretty sure he’s a pervert that shouldn’t be unsupervised with members of the opposite sex.
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I agree that he has some sort of weird fetish and probably did things that are inappropriate at the very least. We'll see about the rest.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Saying that "It's not about the money" is not exclusive of saying "It's about justice." In a civil matter, commonly the only way a victim can gain justice is via money................Justice is the immediate goal............Money is simply the vehicle.
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More porridge.

Best case scenario: all 22 women win and each gets $500.

Hmm.
 
Paid leave. $10M+ to not play.

Who pays? Not the NFL. Not the McNairs. Texans season ticket holders/buyers pay. Texans fan will be financing Watson's legal defense against 22 sexual assault allegations, while he does not playfor you because he's too good for you.
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steelbtexan said:
Schaub actually played well in 2009.

You have a much higher opinion of DW4's play than I do.
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If you think Taylor, Mills, Driskel or Finley are in any way comparable or superior QBs than Watson, then you have a much higher opinion of your ability to evaluate QB talent than I do.
 
FireBOB said:
If you think Taylor, Mills, Driskel or Finley are in any way comparable or superior QBs than Watson, then you have a much higher opinion of your ability to evaluate QB talent than I do.
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I don't think you can win a championship with DW4.

I don't know if you can eventually win one with Mills or whoever they draft in next yrs draft. They finally got off of the cap eating treadmill that was DW4.

BTW, they weren't winning a championship with or without DW4
 
IDEXAN said:
If DW4 was just some smuck playing semi-pro football instead of being an NFL player worth tens of millions of $s we all know none of this is
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Right, because all the tons of athletes making tens of millions of dollars are all getting sued by 20+ women. For ****'s sake, if you're sexually harassed or assaulted by Joe Nobody at Bob's Garage, best just to sit back and take it I guess? I mean, what's the point of taking that guy to court?
 
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