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I have read somewhere that enemy had some minor assault charges of some kind in his youth. So he is not as clean as some others.
Voted they think it’s best, Why care how the players feel now?
Also I believe “doesn’t interview well” is code for “he’s black”
Yeah. I don’t know how we got to Frazier & Culle. Even Caldwell is a mystery to me. I mean when he was made the Colts HC, I was like, “WTF?”I like Eberflus as I did Saleh. Hell, you can sell me on Daboll based on the improvement of Allen. You can't sell me on Frazier or Cully at all. I like Frazier as a man, but for a defensive minded coach, he had 1 yr when his defense was top 14 and that was last yr in Buffalo. Cully is 65 and is the pass game qb of a below avg passing team and haven't ever been a oc. Say what you want about EB and whether he calls the plays or not, but he's a force with players. Maybe that's the problem, much like Bruce Arians, he's like a shot of Wild Turkey. He's going to say what he says and lead his team. Thats what EB is.
Yeah. I don’t know how we got to Frazier & Culle. Even Caldwell is a mystery to me. I mean when he was made the Colts HC, I was like, “WTF?”
Then when he was made the Lions HC, I was like, “Serious?”
I’m sure Colts fans came to be ok with it, but I doubt anyone cried when he left.
Same with the Lions even though they had some semblance of winning.
But to be looking at him for a third shot?
Yeah. I don’t know how we got to Frazier & Culle. Even Caldwell is a mystery to me.
I think I have the answer to why two of these guys where chosen.
The Colts, seeking their second NFL championship in the last four years, were molded by Tony Dungy and are now coached by Jim Caldwell, two devout and openly Christian men.
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Leslie Frazier is a deep man of faith and that guides him with all his decisions and how he approaches football and life.
Is Bills DC Leslie Frazier the perfect coach for the Texans' job?
The Houston Texans have given a second interview to Buffalo Bills defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier. Would he be the perfect coach for the job?texanswire.usatoday.com
I'm interested in this culley guy.....only cause I know nothing about him
I like Eberflus as I did Saleh. Hell, you can sell me on Daboll based on the improvement of Allen. You can't sell me on Frazier or Cully at all. I like Frazier as a man, but for a defensive minded coach, he had 1 yr when his defense was top 14 and that was last yr in Buffalo. Cully is 65 and is the pass game qb of a below avg passing team and haven't ever been a oc. Say what you want about EB and whether he calls the plays or not, but he's a force with players. Maybe that's the problem, much like Bruce Arians, he's like a shot of Wild Turkey. He's going to say what he says and lead his team. Thats what EB is.
Excellent list. Once I was asked what I was responsible for in a past job. When asked this, there better be something. That could be added.Well....I would think that the color of his skin would be known prior to setting up the interview in the first place, no code words needed.
Many people do not interview well and this can be signs of nervousness. Reasons a candidate for HC is considered to not be a good interview can be for the following reasons;
1) Didn't research the team. Doesn't know stars currently on roster or obvious team needs moving forward (if any are publicized).
2) Didn't ask enough questions. A candidate who is interested in the direction and history of the team will ask a plethora of questions when given the opportunity to gauge whether or not they even want the job. Not asking questions is a sign that either A) They aren't too keen on the position or B) They have no idea what questions to ask.
3) He gave inconsistent answers or lied. Sometimes the candidate will only say what he thinks the interviewer wants to hear and later in the interview will accidentally contradict himself.
4) The candidate cannot explain what his direction would be for the team. His strategy, possible staff and what his ideal team would look like.
5) Candidate cannot explain why he would prefer this HC vacancy over other team vacancies (if there are others).
6) Sometimes it is as simple as the candidate not showing enough excitement or enthusiasm.
7) On the flip side of #6, sometimes the candidate can be too humble. It never hurts to sell yourself.
8) All too often a candidate will make the interview about them and not about the TEAM. Bottom line is, what can this candidate do for the team...that is what the interviewer is interested in most.
9) Sometimes a candidate will seem too determined and dead set in their own ways. For some front offices (especially those that like to add their own input to a teams roster and direction) this can be a problem.
10) Something simple like body language and appearance (yes..eating during the interview also) is important. 1st impressions are a thing.
11) Candidate did not build a rapport with interviewer. Sometimes it really is as simple as not being able to see eye to eye on basic fundamentals which can spell relationship problems later in the season.
12) Candidates strengths are not exactly what the team needs most at the moment.
There are many reasons why a possible HC would not interview well and many of them have nothing to do with skin color and more to do with the front office wanting to make the best possible choice to further their franchise and profit margin.
Saleh was my #1 ..... Don't care for Eberfuls much.
At least with Eberflus you can see what he created and how they've fared. How many high draft picks they have on that defense? He coached those guys up to become a good unit.Saleh was my #1 ..... Don't care for Eberfuls much.
I didn't think much of Allen before the season , every time I watch the Bills I think Daboll's making chicken salad outa chickenpoo .... What he got out of Allen this year with next to nothing for a running game was amazing. They just find a way to be productive.
While you are right that there are a lot of things in an interview that can play into the hiring or not hiring of a head coach candidate, that still does not explain away the countless times minorities, "especially black candidates,"get passed over time after time. Far too many times top coaching jobs go to white candidates who are less qualified.Well....I would think that the color of his skin would be known prior to setting up the interview in the first place, no code words needed.
Many people do not interview well and this can be signs of nervousness. Reasons a candidate for HC is considered to not be a good interview can be for the following reasons;
1) Didn't research the team. Doesn't know stars currently on roster or obvious team needs moving forward (if any are publicized).
2) Didn't ask enough questions. A candidate who is interested in the direction and history of the team will ask a plethora of questions when given the opportunity to gauge whether or not they even want the job. Not asking questions is a sign that either A) They aren't too keen on the position or B) They have no idea what questions to ask.
3) He gave inconsistent answers or lied. Sometimes the candidate will only say what he thinks the interviewer wants to hear and later in the interview will accidentally contradict himself.
4) The candidate cannot explain what his direction would be for the team. His strategy, possible staff and what his ideal team would look like.
5) Candidate cannot explain why he would prefer this HC vacancy over other team vacancies (if there are others).
6) Sometimes it is as simple as the candidate not showing enough excitement or enthusiasm.
7) On the flip side of #6, sometimes the candidate can be too humble. It never hurts to sell yourself.
8) All too often a candidate will make the interview about them and not about the TEAM. Bottom line is, what can this candidate do for the team...that is what the interviewer is interested in most.
9) Sometimes a candidate will seem too determined and dead set in their own ways. For some front offices (especially those that like to add their own input to a teams roster and direction) this can be a problem.
10) Something simple like body language and appearance (yes..eating during the interview also) is important. 1st impressions are a thing.
11) Candidate did not build a rapport with interviewer. Sometimes it really is as simple as not being able to see eye to eye on basic fundamentals which can spell relationship problems later in the season.
12) Candidates strengths are not exactly what the team needs most at the moment.
There are many reasons why a possible HC would not interview well and many of them have nothing to do with skin color and more to do with the front office wanting to make the best possible choice to further their franchise and profit margin.
I agree. Well, mostly. Nine times out of ten, when asked people are going to say good things about you. But I do get your point.Many of those he has coached and those he has coached under have had nothing but good things to say about him.
Agree. I’m thinking maybe this is why the Texans are taking a hard look at Culley. Is he one of those guys that have slipped through the cracks?Also there are plenty minorities deserving who don't even get as close as an interview.
I’ve got a few questions about Bieniemy myself. I would have loved to have been in the room when they interviewed him. But this time, we seem dead set on hiring a minority HC. Still looks like the Texans may not be interested.I am neither here nor there when it comes to EB but I think he has paid enough dues and has done more than enough to get a shot as a head coach in the NFL. It seems there is a reluctance to hire minorties,"especially black candidates,"and that has to change.
In the last 10 years, 52 of the 320 NFL head coaching positions were held by black men. That's 16.25% of the head coaching opportunities while black folks make up 13.4% of the population. Folks from every ethnicity get passed over.While you are right that there are a lot of things in an interview that can play into the hiring or not hiring of a head coach candidate, that still does not explain away the countless times minorities, "especially black candidates,"get passed over time after time. Far too many times top coaching jobs go to white candidates who are less qualified.
I HATE the many times the race card is used by people,but I do think in regards to sports and hiring leaders of men,there for sure seems to be a racist element at play. Be it conscious or subconsious I can not say,but too many times minorities have been passed over. The Rooney rule alone is not getting it done. More needs to happen to level the playing field so to speak.
I do wonder about EB and him being passed over as much as he has been. I understand there are questions in regards to his character but his checkered long ago past is just that, the long ago past. Many of those he has coached and those he has coached under have had nothing but good things to say about him. I doubt it is a matter of him being a poor interview with all the job openings that have come up. It also can not be the case with the other black candidates who interview yet continually get left out. Also there are plenty minorities deserving who don't even get as close as an interview. If an average white college head coach with little to no coaching experience as a pro can get a head coaching job in the NFL,than what is stopping teams from hiring more experienced black coaches? Black coaches who have done more than enough to pay their dues.
I am neither here nor there when it comes to EB but I think he has paid enough dues and has done more than enough to get a shot as a head coach in the NFL. It seems there is a reluctance to hire minorties,"especially black candidates,"and that has to change.
Great sex? Man, Im glad I dont have some of you guys' inboxes... Im a happily married man.Same reason people go back to abusive relationships.
In the last 10 years, 52 of the 320 NFL head coaching positions were held by black men. That's 16.25% of the head coaching opportunities while black folks make up 13.4% of the population. Folks from every ethnicity get passed over.
Is your thinking that they won't be able to get the caliber coach they want without Watson? Why not get the coach they want now?It looks to me as if the new HC will be a bridge HC while the team rebuilds after it trades DW4.
Yep,
Also Cal must have not adhered to the Good Ole Boys way of thinking. He was hell bent on hiring a minority candidate from the beginning. He wasn't really ever considering a white guy for the HC position.
I just hope he hires a guy that can build a great staff and can be successful for a long time. I have my doubts because how long does a 60 something yr old HC really want to coach in the NFL. It looks to me as if the new HC will be a bridge HC while the team rebuilds after it trades DW4.
Think about this, they never even interviewed the guy who calls the plays and sets the game plan ( Roman) . Instead, they interviewed the pass game coordinator? Makes 0 sense except for Texans management.
Far as I’m concerned I’m glad they didn’t hire a play caller. For the first time in our history maybe we have a HC & not a Coordinator playing HCThink about this, they never even interviewed the guy who calls the plays and sets the game plan ( Roman) . Instead, they interviewed the pass game coordinator? Makes 0 sense except for Texans management.
Is your thinking that they won't be able to get the caliber coach they want without Watson? Why not get the coach they want now?
Far as I’m concerned I’m glad they didn’t hire a play caller. For the first time in our history maybe we have a HC & not a OC playing HC
They're grooming Tim Kelly to be a head coach. Whether or not EB was going to get the job or not, I'm certain he wasn't going to hang on to Tim Kelly and he probably said as much.Yep,
SMDH
They're grooming Tim Kelly to be a head coach. Whether or not EB was going to get the job or not, I'm certain he wasn't going to hang on to Tim Kelly and he probably said as much.
This is such a low ceiling hire. You could've sold people on Joe BradyIf he told them that he's a pretty smart guy.
Cant wait for the 2 yd and a cloud of dust offense next yr.
This is such a low ceiling hire. You could've sold people on Joe Brady
Speculation.Brady wouldn't come here with Kelly being forced on him as OC.
yeah and we will continue to be on the outside looking in.Far as I’m concerned I’m glad they didn’t hire a play caller. For the first time in our history maybe we have a HC & not a Coordinator playing HC
Why do you think the other 5 teams that interviewed Bieniemy picked someone else? What do you think the Texans should have seen that they didn't?yeah and we will continue to be on the outside looking in.
Match the dots. They blocked Kelly from interviewing for a oc position because it was a lateral move. Why not let the incoming coach decide the fate of the coaches?Speculation.
First, we're speculating Kelly will be OC. Second we're speculating Brady wouldn't keep Kelly as his OC. Third we're speculating there weren't a dozen other more pressing reasons Brady would not have taken this job.Match the dots. They blocked Kelly from interviewing for a oc position because it was a lateral move. Why not let the incoming coach decide the fate of the coaches?
Your argument falls flat when you consider that black players make up most of the players playing in the NFL. You take into account your 16.25% of coaches are black but leave out the number of black GM's and other upper management positionsIn the last 10 years, 52 of the 320 NFL head coaching positions were held by black men. That's 16.25% of the head coaching opportunities while black folks make up 13.4% of the population. Folks from every ethnicity get passed over.
I agree about your point in regards to people being put on the spot and people saying nice things about who it is their being asked about.I agree. Well, mostly. Nine times out of ten, when asked people are going to say good things about you. But I do get your point.
Agree. I’m thinking maybe this is why the Texans are taking a hard look at Culley. Is he one of those guys that have slipped through the cracks?
Leslie Frazier, I don’t understand. Nothing against Frazier, but if he’s earned a 2nd chance, if we’re going to look at Caldwell a third time, why didn’t we request an interview with Bowles?
I’ve got a few questions about Bieniemy myself. I would have loved to have been in the room when they interviewed him. But this time, we seem dead set on hiring a minority HC. Still looks like the Texans may not be interested.
But, there are only 32 jobs in the NFL. & guys like Kubiak, Zimmer, Arians & I’m sure many others have had to wait a long time. Heck, guys like Jim Johnson & Dick Lebeau... have they ever been considered for a HC job?
No doubt about it, the Rooney Rule is a joke. & I don’t think it’s a conscious effort to overlook anyone. But I can’t imagine what they could do.
The lack of logic in this is breathtaking. Owners overemploy black players by 57% and they're racist because they only overemploy black coaches by 3%. I wonder how all the other minorities feel about that? Complete absurdity.Your argument falls flat when you consider that black players make up most of the players playing in the NFL. You take into account your 16.25% of coaches are black but leave out the number of black GM's and other upper management positions
Sept. 15, 2020, 10:32 AM CDT
By Scott Stump
This article originally ran on Today.com.
As fans celebrate the return of the NFL, Black coaches are hoping their biggest victory will come after the season is over.
The NFL’s 32 teams began the season in full on Sunday with only three Black head coaches and two Black general managers in a league where the players are roughly 70% Black. Of the five head coaching jobs that were open in the offseason, none went to Black coaches, and one went to a coach of color, Washington’s Ron Rivera, who is Latino.
Given a national climate in which protests against racial injustice have been at the forefront and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has openly acknowledged the league’s diversity shortcomings, the hiring cycle in the 2021 offseason looks to be one of the most scrutinized in NFL history when it comes to whether or not teams bring in Black head coaches and general managers. Continue.....
hs://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/most-nfl-players-are-black-so-why-aren-t-there-n1240131ttp
DW4Match the dots. They blocked Kelly from interviewing for a oc position because it was a lateral move. Why not let the incoming coach decide the fate of the coaches?
Why do you think the other 5 teams that interviewed Bieniemy picked someone else? What do you think the Texans should have seen that they didn't?
Your argument falls flat when you consider that black players make up most of the players playing in the NFL. You take into account your 16.25% of coaches are black but leave out the number of black GM's and other upper management positions
Sept. 15, 2020, 10:32 AM CDT
By Scott Stump
This article originally ran on Today.com.
As fans celebrate the return of the NFL, Black coaches are hoping their biggest victory will come after the season is over.
The NFL’s 32 teams began the season in full on Sunday with only three Black head coaches and two Black general managers in a league where the players are roughly 70% Black. Of the five head coaching jobs that were open in the offseason, none went to Black coaches, and one went to a coach of color, Washington’s Ron Rivera, who is Latino.
Given a national climate in which protests against racial injustice have been at the forefront and NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has openly acknowledged the league’s diversity shortcomings, the hiring cycle in the 2021 offseason looks to be one of the most scrutinized in NFL history when it comes to whether or not teams bring in Black head coaches and general managers. Continue.....
hs://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/most-nfl-players-are-black-so-why-aren-t-there-n1240131ttp
My question isn't "why would teams hire him?". My question is "why does the sports media continually prop this guy up while skirting around his extensive legal issues?".
- Arrested twice in college for getting into fights / altercations.
- Pulled over twice in college while speeding with suspended license. Arrested after skipping court date.
- Arrested in the NFL after choking parking lot attendant. Also received public urination and later a DUI.
- Was one of the coaches at University of Colorado linked to sex scandal and was banned from university (his alma mater).
Now I believe in second chances, but why is all of this being swept under the rug like it never happened? It's part of the evaluation process whether anyone likes it or not.
Instead sports media plays the race card every time his name comes up. Baffling.
Now add onto all of this that everyone is acutely aware that this is Andy Reid's offense and that EB has much less control over it than most OC's.
Still an interesting prospect with that KC connection, but put the entire picture together and I fail to see "can't miss hire" here.