The Titans had 601 yards of offense. Tell me again why we didn't sign Earl Thomas.
Whatever reason we didn't sign Earl Thomas, why didn't we sign Eric Reid?
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The Titans had 601 yards of offense. Tell me again why we didn't sign Earl Thomas.
because people in the locker room were trying to convince the FO not to bring him inThe Titans had 601 yards of offense. Tell me again why we didn't sign Earl Thomas.
because people in the locker room were trying to convince the FO not to bring him in
You can certainly try, but Rodgers had ZERO good game against a good defense in his first four years in the league.Sure I can. Watch this, "If we’re talking about Mahomes or Rodgers or whoever, they still have good games against good defenses."
Which I addressed.
I wish we would have showed interest in signing Bell. Johnson couldn’t even get 1 yard when it mattered.
Will this be enough to get certain posters off Watson’s ass?
Probably not.
Meanwhile the rest us know this kid is legit; unlike this franchise.
We’re not a championship team but we have championship players.
Like watching a cat trying to cover shite on a linoleum floor. Really comes off that you're truly rooting against Watson to have any success at all since it would blow-up your theory. You're better than this. Watson is showing why so many of us see him as the asset this team has desperately needed....yet the organization has failed miserably at putting a team around him.
You can certainly try, but Rodgers had ZERO good game against a good defense in his first four years in the league.
Tunsil is getting paid like a guy that should almost guarantee a friggin' yard with multiple attempts. That the Texans gave up so much cap space and draft capital for an LT that cannot be consistently depended upon with regards to getting getting a yard when it matters is the perfect example of O'Brien's tenure here.
Watson is the ONLY attractive thing about this franchise for a potential HC & GM.
Cap space hell, no draft capital, a roster full of JAGs. . .Watson is the only thing worth being optimistic about the future.
The inherent problem, however, is that his shiny new contract is going to be an impediment to signing the kind of talent this franchise needs to be consistently competitive.
It's like a sports religion for some folks. They believe it, defend it, and proselytize about it to the point of being cult leaders. And like any dogma, they do not do well with heretics that question their unwavering belief systems.
Just be a football agnostic and accept the facts as they are presented. React to actual reality - i.e. history - instead of being prophets of doom and gloom. Objectivity, reason, and logic have no place for agenda-driven ideology that never wavers.
You can certainly try, but Rodgers had ZERO good game against a good defense in his first four years in the league.
BTW, shouldn't a QB that has played for 4 yrs be further along than a QB thats sat on the bench for 4 yrs?
How would you determine if one is further along than the other?
You didn't answer my question, how long before we can start comparing them IYO?
BTW, shouldn't a QB that has played for 4 yrs be further along than a QB thats sat on the bench for 4 yrs?
Was Rodgers better than DW4 in his 1st yr as a starter and if he wasn't how much did Rodgers improve from his 1st yr as a starter compared to how much DW4 improved from say yr 3 to yr 4.
Football agnostics get dislikes just like everyone else.Tunsil is getting paid like a guy that should almost guarantee a friggin' yard with multiple attempts. That the Texans gave up so much cap space and draft capital for an LT that cannot be consistently depended upon with regards to getting getting a yard when it matters is the perfect example of O'Brien's tenure here.
Watson is the ONLY attractive thing about this franchise for a potential HC & GM.
Cap space hell, no draft capital, a roster full of JAGs. . .Watson is the only thing worth being optimistic about the future.
The inherent problem, however, is that his shiny new contract is going to be an impediment to signing the kind of talent this franchise needs to be consistently competitive.
It's like a sports religion for some folks. They believe it, defend it, and proselytize about it to the point of being cult leaders. And like any dogma, they do not do well with heretics that question their unwavering belief systems.
Just be a football agnostic and accept the facts as they are presented. React to actual reality - i.e. history - instead of being prophets of doom and gloom. Objectivity, reason, and logic have no place for agenda-driven ideology that never wavers.
I'm trying hard to follow your guideline.& that's even with sitting behind a HOF QB for three seasons. See. Even you can compare Watson to Rogers.
Have you ever wondered how far along a QB should be after 4 years when he's been carrying the same dead weight for that period of time? Post one part of that dead weight and we're getting to see those first 6 game numbers return to Watson and the offense. Like the first 6 games and 3 years later......the defense is still gawd awful, the running game has never been sorted out, the OL is a couple of steps over the old crappy OL, TE's are slowly being introduced but Fells still can deliver an ugly and crucial drop here and there......oh, they shipped out one of the finest WR's in the game but I can say, the new group is coming on during this 2 game stretch.
So I wll ask this very simple question.....has Mahomes, Jackson, or Tannehill (since his arrival in TN) dealt with the same obstacles as Watson?
Manning and Rodgers both got better as the team around them became better. That's exactly what I saw......what did you see?
I'm not really into comparison, because like I had said a number of times before, it's not like in a lab where you can set all the conditions to be the same.You didn't answer my question, how long before we can start comparing them IYO?
BTW, shouldn't a QB that has played for 4 yrs be further along than a QB thats sat on the bench for 4 yrs?
You didn't answer my question, how long before we can start comparing them?
Do you not think a 25 yr old pro bowl LT can potentially improve under a new OL coach?
Yes, DW4's contract will be an albatross.
Forgive me but playing well against the Jags/Titans defenses should be the norm. Lets see how he does against better defenses. I'm looking forward to seeing how DW4 does this week against the Packers D. While they aren't great. They are much better than the Jags/Titans defenses. This week will be a better indication of if progress has truly been made or if the Jags/Titans defenses were just that bad.
The Chiefs were bad defensively 2 yrs ago and Mahomes took them to OT in the AFCCG. Tannehill is playing with a bad Titans defense as we saw on Sunday. What obstacles are you talking about?
I saw that earlier today.And I came back to see if people were applauding Mike Vrabel or calling him a cheating scumbag..
Mike Vrabel appeared to take an intentional penalty to stop the clock on Titans’ comeback
Titans coach Mike Vrabel showed some quick thinking and a thorough knowledge of the NFL’s timing rules late in Tennessee’s comeback win over Houston on Sunday. With the Titans trailing 30-29 and Houston having the ball on second-and-1 with 3:28 to play, Vrabel sent safety Josh Kalu onto the...sports.yahoo.com
but same bat thread, same bat discussion
And I came back to see if people were applauding Mike Vrabel or calling him a cheating scumbag..
Mike Vrabel appeared to take an intentional penalty to stop the clock on Titans’ comeback
Titans coach Mike Vrabel showed some quick thinking and a thorough knowledge of the NFL’s timing rules late in Tennessee’s comeback win over Houston on Sunday. With the Titans trailing 30-29 and Houston having the ball on second-and-1 with 3:28 to play, Vrabel sent safety Josh Kalu onto the...sports.yahoo.com
but same bat thread, same bat discussion
Smart.
And yet Josh Allen and the Buffalo bills struggled against that bad titan defense. And if Tannehill been playing with a bad defense then what the hell as watson been playing with? Atleast Tannehill has a running game
I swear it seems like its a no win situation for watson no matter what, next week if he plays great its cause the Packers defense sucks, if he loses then its cause hes not good enough yada yada....
I just heard about this as well. Sounds like someone knows the rules and how to take advantage.
And I came back to see if people were applauding Mike Vrabel or calling him a cheating scumbag..
Mike Vrabel appeared to take an intentional penalty to stop the clock on Titans’ comeback
Titans coach Mike Vrabel showed some quick thinking and a thorough knowledge of the NFL’s timing rules late in Tennessee’s comeback win over Houston on Sunday. With the Titans trailing 30-29 and Houston having the ball on second-and-1 with 3:28 to play, Vrabel sent safety Josh Kalu onto the...sports.yahoo.com
but same bat thread, same bat discussion
Off topic. Looking forward to today's game between chiefs and bills. Going to be an awesome battle between Josh and mahomesIf he plays well next week I will be impressed. If he doesn't I won't be surprised but it won't be the end of the world. At this point I'm looking for improvement against top tier teams. Last week was an improvement.
Hmm... so if this benefited the Titans, should have RAC declined? Did he even have the option to decline?
Who were the posters here that wanted Vrabel to be our next head coach before he left to the titans? I was one of the naysayers that thought yous were crazy but lately he's definitely making me a believerSmart.
The reason the "penalty-timeout" worked was because Vrabel pretty much conceded the 1st down w/o making the Texans run a play, which would have killed 40 secs.The point was to stop the clock so it didn't matter if the penalty is accepted or not, or had intent or not. Stopping the clock and saving a timeout and/or time was the goal...and it mattered greatly in the end here.
Hmm... so if this benefited the Titans, should have RAC declined? Did he even have the option to decline?
I think eagles did it too with Brian Westbrook and all the fantasy league players were pissed lolWhy decline a first down and 4 more plays to run it out ?
Stopping the clock was what mattered.
Kinda reminds me of a player who had a sure TD a few years back but intentionally fell at the 1 yard line to keep the clock ticking - Forget who it was.( NE?)
I think eagles did it too with Brian Westbrook and all the fantasy league players were pissed lol
So I wll ask this very simple question.....has Mahomes, Jackson, or Tannehill (since his arrival in TN) dealt with the same obstacles as Watson?
If only kastofna was still around to chime on thisTo your point, Tannehill was dealt plenty of obstacles in Miami, now he's not..
Since it was a defensive penalty why blow the whistle & stop the play? No contact was involved. It would solve the problem with coaches doing it intentionally if the offense got a free play & then decided to accept or decline.The reason the "penalty-timeout" worked was because Vrabel pretty much conceded the 1st down w/o making the Texans run a play, which would have killed 40 secs.
So if the penalty was declined, and it remained 2nd & 1, Texans call a run play to get the first, then are able to kill another 40 secs.
BTW, not saying RAC should have declined, but just wondering if that was an option he should have even considered.
He must be busy surfing.If only kastofna was still around to chime on this
Well, I figured they have a higher probability of being below average under BOB, with a possibility of a train wreck.As pissed as I am the Texans lost to the Titans, I thought they played their best game. We took an undefeated team to OT and should have won. The offense put up 36 points and the defense got 2 turnovers. We aren't that far away from being an average team - although being average is certainly not the goal. But considering the dumpster fire that is the front office, we are still competitive.
Why do you keep saying that? After yesterday Tenn is 13th in total defense while GB is 16th. Tenn is 15th in pts/GM and GB is 20th. You keep pushing this narrative that he destroyed some whack defense when he in fact worked a pretty decent one. Stop trying to put asterisks next to his Games.If he plays well next week I will be impressed. If he doesn't I won't be surprised but it won't be the end of the world. At this point I'm looking for improvement against top tier teams. Last week was an improvement.
Why do you keep saying that? After yesterday Tenn is 13th in total defense while GB is 16th. Tenn is 15th in pts/GM and GB is 20th. You keep pushing this narrative that he destroyed some whack defense when he in fact worked a pretty decent one. Stop trying to put asterisks next to his Games.
Yeah, well what did the great Tannehill do against this pathetic Texans defense? Threw a pick? Watson didn't even do that. Wasn't there somebody around here saying they'd take Allen over Watson? How did he do against this "pathetic" Titans D compared to Watson. Oh, and Tannehill is piling up stats against Houston, Minnesota and Jacksonville in 3 of his 5 games, if you want to go there.2020 NFL Opponent Rushing Statistics | The Football Database
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Rushing - the Titans are 31st. Only the Texans are worse per carry & 26th in yards per game.
Passing - the Titans are 22nd on a per attempt basis and 28th in yards per game.
The offense put up 36 points and the defense got 2 turnovers.
Where are we ranked atm? I'm guessing 33rd? LolPoints Allowed Per Game
15. Titans: Points Allowed 126, Points Allowed per Game 25.2
20. Packers: Points Allowed 139, Points Allowed per Game 27.8
Depends on if you think DW4 is the type of QB that's good, not great and plays great against bad defenses and poorly against good defenses.
The Chiefs were bad defensively 2 yrs ago and Mahomes took them to OT in the AFCCG. Tannehill is playing with a bad Titans defense as we saw on Sunday. What obstacles are you talking about?
Does wanting "ANYONE" other than O'Brien(at the time) count?Who were the posters here that wanted Vrabel to be our next head coach before he left to the titans? I was one of the naysayers that thought yous were crazy but lately he's definitely making me a believer
I honestly dont remember how Rodgers did in yr 1 and 2 as a starter. I'm pretty sure he did well. Like I asked, how long do you give DW4 before you can compare him to Rodgers/top 5 QBS etc... 5 yrs? 10 yrs?
The Texans have talent on the offensive side of the ball as we saw yesterday. Do you deny this? The difference is in the level of defenses they play. DW4 looks like the best QB in the NFL against bad defenses and confused against good defenses. Would you agree?