@76Texan - "you can lead a horse to water....."
this thread has shown that OBrien inherited a winning team, and he was supposed to 'take them to the promised land', but what he really did was languish in mediocrity because of his own lack of talent as a head coach and it wasnt until he was "forced" Watson upon him by the rogue and incompetent Rick Smith (who built the core group of players for OBrien!) that he became a "good coach". Its pretty evident that if this team doesnt sell out Kubiak and gives him that 'bad year due to injury' (that OBrien has already been gifted) that this team would have been in a Super Bowl already. I mean its hilarious to see people latch onto OBrien who has never won ANYTHING at ANY LEVEL as the beacon of what a winner is!! How many rings for Koobs now?? Kubiaks HUGE UNDOING??? Loyalty. Something that will never get in the way for Bill OBrien.
This has been a trainwreck of fallacy when people who get presented with black and white cant even engage and appreciate the basic truths and move on in a fulfilling discussion ... cant even get past the OBVIOUS ROSTER differences and ACCEPT THE FACT that RICK SMITH was the architect and deserves ALL THE CREDIT FOR BILL OBRIENS SUCCESS!!!! too afraid to move onto the technical differences within the systems!! SMH. Pointing the finger at the man who built BOTH teams as the reason for the failure!! LMAO. Yall better keep wasting time arguing roster semantics because if the systems get opened up it continues to make your Emperor look like a fool.
In the end it seems like OBrien will be even more tricky than Rick SMith.
Too bad Deshaun Watson keeps saving his job. Its an unfortunate revolving door.
Use that ignore feature my dude! Its uber satisfying to see how bent out of shape they get when they cant exchange anymore like a puppy yapping at your heels!! Make this YOUR experience ( i only see like 2 posts on this page LMAO - YOU dictate the context that YOU want). Also, take a pulse of these talking about points on a national level if you have friends/family in other cities/states .. jump onto other team fan sites and gage the response - you would feel infinitely justified! This is the only pocket of "Trade Deshaun Watson" .. "Bill OBrien is a Hall of Fame coach" .. "Kubiak was/is a bad coach" .. "Rick SMith was a terrible GM" - brilliance that you will find HAHA - among the "die hards".