That was in response to your "McClain is a Blowhard" statement. You can't take anything he says about the Texans as fact .... he's in their pocket !
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That was in response to your "McClain is a Blowhard" statement. You can't take anything he says about the Texans as fact .... he's in their pocket !
Mr.Scarface
Rookie
Dabo Sweeney is not leaving Clemson. Get over it.
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
I don't even give him that much credit. He hasn't been connected since the Oilers. He's just the guy in the break room who says mostly common sense stuff. When he does go out on a limb he's usually wrong. He says it with conviction and because of his history people expect he has credibility.
At best these days he's a good story teller and a bullsh*t artist. He has no inside knowledge.
What scares me the most is the vice grip Bill O’Brien has on this team. The dude seriously has to go. I’m more than fearful if we bring in another one of his buddies up north he’ll get to continue to stick around. He needs to go. He should’ve been gone less than 24 hours after that playoff game. I cannot handle another year of watching someone be so in over their head, and worse, he’s a power hungry tyrant and we allow it.
When he gets specific, he's usually wrong. When he does his best John Madden impression (See also Captain Obvious) he appears credible to casual fans of the team/game.
Brisco_County
Apples and roadmaps
Am I the only one who thinks this should have been deferred to the end of 2019 after the rookies are evaluated?
If the Texans don't have the replacement ready to sign by next week, I'm seriously scared of Cal as an owner.
If the Texans don't have the replacement ready to sign by next week, I'm seriously scared of Cal as an owner.
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
......unless the guy who took a "leave of absence" has mentioned to Cal that he's ready to return to "his" job. Evidently, Gaine was just a "temporary" replacement until RS felt ready to continue his job as GM and most importantly, as Godfather to Cal's kid.
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I'm more interested in who the replacement is. Cal can't be worse than Bob, so no worries there.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Didn’t say he would. Get our yourself.
What? GM's dont get fired after OTA's/this time of yr.
What? GM's dont get fired after OTA's/this time of yr.
Dejaview
All Pro
I’m with you 100%. Who could write off a draft without a season under their belts. They did so his first year and that’s turned into a solid draft considering no 1 & 2. Wow, here just a little over one year. Could Cal have been used by Douglas? Is it a coincidence that a Jets deal that seemed dead in the water suddenly revitalized and got done on the same day Gaine was fired? I have to hold judgement on who Cal May hire because there is so much we don’t know but I think we just may have been duped out of the guy he really wanted. This is looking sooooooo Bud Adams and it’s killing me to not say more but this is bizarre. Cal stated he did this to bring a championship to Houston so he better have a championship GM lined up.
He who controls the $$$$ has the power.
You want a bean counter to be the GM?
That's going to end swell. Bud would be proud of your way of thinking. SMH
Hervoyel
BUENO!
He gets used every now and then I think by the team to put something out there. Those are his “inside scoops” but the Texans don’t even know what they’re going to do half the time. So many are just wrong. The thing is with his history and reputation he’s become a personality in his own right so even him saying “I was shocked that did/didn’t happen” is something the average Chronic reader will take a look at.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Tricky Rick Standing By!
The Las thing I recall happening was the restructuring of the scouting department. Maybe Gaine cut too deep. Maybe he acted without the ok from the boss. Maybe he didn't attend Cal's son's pre-school graduation ceremony?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
If Gaine’s history proved anything he bought the best “value” pre school graduation gift he could find instead of making a “splash” like Cal wanted.
Dejaview
All Pro
McClain is saying this morning that Cal thought BG was a better personnel man than a GM but this is precisely the time of year you want a personnel man. There are still pieces to be added this summer. As much as I want to dis Cal prudence says hold off for more facts....which are rare around these parts.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I certainly hope it isn't a reflection on how the draft picks are looking after OTA's.
We shall soon see by which FA's are ushered in.
We shall soon see by which FA's are ushered in.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
OTAs would have no bearing on decision. Rookies are often behind the vets because they are new to program and have been practicing for combine all offseason whereas vets are used to process. Not to mention it’s not in full pads and linemen (the two most pivotal picks in last draft Howard/Scharping) can’t be properly evaluated in shorts.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
I have been waiting to try and figure out what to make of this.
My first thought was the one (previous) above.
My second is the fact that JJ chimed in pretty quickly - he is most definitely in "win now" mode and there is no prize for guessing why.
Is this his way of saying "It's now or never"? Do we draw the conclusion he is not happy with the roster from his tweet? Is he hinting at a trade?
The next couple weeks will be interesting around here!
My first thought was the one (previous) above.
My second is the fact that JJ chimed in pretty quickly - he is most definitely in "win now" mode and there is no prize for guessing why.
Is this his way of saying "It's now or never"? Do we draw the conclusion he is not happy with the roster from his tweet? Is he hinting at a trade?
The next couple weeks will be interesting around here!
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
That's just it - perhaps Howard just doesn't look good at all.
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Again, unable to make that assumption. And quite frankly irresponsible to even consider until training camp when we can actually see practices ourselves in pads. Rather than relying on approved takes from Texans paid media.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Don't get me wrong, I think Howard deserves a chance too.
But perhaps Gaine was advised to move up in the draft and decided to wait and Howard and maybe others have been disappointing to the point of hopelessness. Perhaps Gaine just did not do due diligence.
We shall see.
Number19
Hall of Fame
This
ATXtexanfan
Hall of Fame
I had a decision to make this offseason. Keep my season tickets or let them go. I let them go.
The Texans have continually put my mind at ease over my decision.
The Texans have continually put my mind at ease over my decision.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
It’s been less than a month, if someone is already saying they are hopeless then that person has no place evaluating talent. Howard may have been an overreach but only by one round, two at most. You’re talking like Gaine drafted someone no one had ever even heard of. If BoB is saying that he can’t coach Howard or whatever then BoB needs to be fired because he has failed as a coach.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
That's correct, the owners of all 32 teams have the power. Negotiating contracts doesn't mean you control the money.
He's not GM. He's warming the chair while they find a GM.
This is the absolute lowest time for personnel moves. Precisely when you want one is for the draft and the free agency period that counts in the compensatory pick process. Both are over.
Since they waited more than a month after the draft, I seriously doubt this is the case. More likely is the hardball stance about Clowney, and maybe Cal heard rumors about Trent Williams and went to BG and said 'Brian, we should pursue this guy, do what it takes!' and then BG said 'NO, that is not how I want to build the team'. GM don't win power struggle against the owner
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Not at all. You omitted the first part of the sentence. It's kinda relevant to what I was saying.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Just like theJets’ firing of Mike Maccagnanafter the draft and a free agency spending spree, it’s all about the person who can walk into the owner’s office and say ‘I alone can fix this.’ It’s how most of our businesses and day jobs work—and it’s how your favorite NFL team works. If the team owner or acting president or de facto leader isn’t answering your phone calls or asking your advice about the direction of the team, you should probably polish up your LinkedIn profile, before the guy across the hall makes it a foregone conclusion.
Gaine who was hired January 2018 and inked a five-year contract, inherited a roster so bad that the Texans were forking over draft picks just to get rid of their worst players. He made moves early in free agency last year, notably helping HoustonlandTyrann Mathieu (now with the Chiefs) on an affordable deal. And the team finished first in the AFC South and made the playoffs as a three-seed in 2018.
Gaine attacked the Texans’biggest need in the draft this year, picking tackles with the team’sfirst and third picks—and everyone in the buildingappeared to beexcited. He now won’t get the chance to see how this plays out. Somewhere between then and now, with just a handful of consequence-less practices as evidence, it turns out whatever Gaine did wasn’t good enough.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/07/houston-texans-fire-gm-brian-gaine
Gaine who was hired January 2018 and inked a five-year contract, inherited a roster so bad that the Texans were forking over draft picks just to get rid of their worst players. He made moves early in free agency last year, notably helping HoustonlandTyrann Mathieu (now with the Chiefs) on an affordable deal. And the team finished first in the AFC South and made the playoffs as a three-seed in 2018.
Gaine attacked the Texans’biggest need in the draft this year, picking tackles with the team’sfirst and third picks—and everyone in the buildingappeared to beexcited. He now won’t get the chance to see how this plays out. Somewhere between then and now, with just a handful of consequence-less practices as evidence, it turns out whatever Gaine did wasn’t good enough.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/06/07/houston-texans-fire-gm-brian-gaine
Why did he wait over a month?
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Could be something to that. Rick Smith traded up to get guys they wanted when with OB with mixed results. Louis Nix, Jaelen Strong, moved up 1 spot for will Fuller, DW4. No such moves with Gaine.
Steve Underwood ran the Oilers from behind the scenes for yrs.
Do a quick search and tell me how many GM's get fired this time of yr?
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Don't know about the OB dynamic but I'd bet passivity was Gaine's downfall.
Assuming true, so? And are you claiming he had power apart from Adams, lol. Underwood was General Counsel. He was big into relocation not personnel.
If the interim tag gets taken off you can gnash your teeth. You're way premature.
Once again, so?
TexansBull
Hall of Fame
Because that strategy worked out well...
Texansballer74
The Marine
Someone posted a video clip of Gaines in the War room making the decision to draft Howard. From that clip he showed what the poster who posted it control of the draft. Assumption : maybe just maybe everyone wasn't on board with that pick. But went along with it because Gaines selected him anyways without true confirmation. Remember the player they wanted got selected a pick ahead of us. Plus there were other should've been top rated Offensive tackles still on the board. Gaines didn't think twice so he grabbed a player who by many supposedly experts pinned in as a 3rd rounder at best.
Disclaimer: pure speculation lol
Disclaimer: pure speculation lol
Texansballer74
The Marine
And/or as aggressive in free agency which would include resolving the impasse with JD Clowney.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Believe that was me. Nobody else in that short video spoke up before selection made, but minutes leading up to selection #23 not shared. Bob seemed ok with it as did Cal, what happened post month afterward were probably free agent acquisition of Trent Williams and fact he shopped Clowney after franchising him.
We’ll probably never know for sure, Texans don’t air out dirty laundry, but just in my opinion Gaine did not deserve to be fired. Someone got impatient with his process and bent opposite direction.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Every damn G.M. who has to construct a roster in a hard cap league "counts beans", what's your point?
Texian
Hall of Fame
He would say, "I told you so". Then he would remind you that no self respecting Head Coach or General Manager is going to come to Houston and subject themself to the Circus at Kirby that is masquerading as a boardroom. The Kirby boardroom/circus is career killer. Then he would tell you that the best hope for the Texans is a sibling rivalry uprising in the next 3 to 4 years and they will demand their fair share of the Houston Texans pie (cash they can spend) and the team will be sold. Then hope that the new owner is much better at winning than they are at meddling. In closing he would say, until then this conundrum will likely to go from bad to worse.
In his IMHO, he would say Gaines is gone because after the Texans got a good look at Tytus Howard and they realized he was another Louis Nix III pick, only worse because it was a 1 instead of a 3. He would also point out that if you watched Howard's Combine workout you can see and hear coaches running every drill say faster, faster, hurry up, you're to slow.