So now are you telling me you don't think the Colts are contenders? I'm sure you thought they were recently, which is why I mentioned them.
On this very page you are praising there draft as if to say, "Texans should draft like the Colts."
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State of the O-line
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So now are you telling me you don't think the Colts are contenders? I'm sure you thought they were recently, which is why I mentioned them.
On this very page you are praising there draft as if to say, "Texans should draft like the Colts."
They are 2 yrs away.
And yes, I love the way they handled their business in their business in both the draft/FA.
Being a Texans fan can do that to a man.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Bwhahaha you don't know that for sure. So many things can happen in those two years. Luck can go down with another major injury, and down goes Joshua.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
How would you change it?
What's wrong with you? You can't be going around wishing injury on our Q... sorry. You did it right. Carry on.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
:kubepalm:
See how this game can be played.
Wishing for another teams QB to get hurt says alot about what you think the state of the franchise is.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Counting on a QB to get hurt so you can catch up is a terrible plan.
Texansballer74
The Marine
I was using an example on how their plans could go south. You always tell people reading is fundamental and you pull this crap. I would never wish for anyone to get injured out there.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Same place Pats would be if Brady went down, Saints with Brees, Packers with Rogers, Colts with Luck, KC with Mahomes, Steelers with Big Ben (hate having to look up his how to spell his name), Browns with Mayfield, Raiders might actually be better if Carr went down. See where I'm going with this, all teams with a franchise QB are pretty much screwed if that QB goes down unless they lucked out, no pun intended, and their backup is way better than anyone thought he would be.
Texas Jake
Rookie
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I do recognize those tend to be big "if"s.
Agreed, BB had a great insurance plan with Jimmy G for yrs. Stidham is BB's new Jimmy G.
Agreed, I was just pointing out that needing a QB to get hurt so you can win your division says alot about the state of your franchise.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
We read it different then, I didn't see anybody saying we needed Luck to get hurt just that a lot can happen in two years. Frankly with Luck's track record the idea that he may get another serious injury within that time is not very far fetched. That's not saying we need that to beat them but if it happens they are just as screwed as everyone else.
Would you say it's likely Watson blows his knee out again (He's blown each knee out already) playing behind a young OL?
Texas Jake
Rookie
I understand your POV and history does tend to back you up, but I am holding on to the hope that the Gaine/BOB tandem could change the trajectory of the franchise. I like the direction I think Gaine is going with the team. It appears they have a plan and are working that plan - which is something that wasnt apparent under the Smith/BOB regime. Gaine is from the Parcel's school and I believe that is coming across in how he is operating as GM. The next two years should demonstrate whether he is going to be successful or not. If they aren't making progress in over that period it is definitely time to move on.
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Honestly don't know, I don't know enough about the medical side to answer how likely further injury is. I don't think we will see another season as bad as last, or if we do then yeah they should clean house, and I don't think Watson is any where near as banged up as Luck is. Luck these last couple of years has struck me as being one hard sack away from being done.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Texans have never invested this heavily on their OL. Lot of it is just timing. This actually was a great draft class for addressing that need vs years in the past or over rated, over paid free agents. You have to draft and develop your offensive line with a few stop gap, veteran free agents.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Thing is his history schtick is bunk. The 4 years of Capers mean exactly dick for the Texans now. So running around 17 yrs this or that is a farce.
I sure hope the Texans have no more seasons with as few as a 9 game winning streak an 11-5 overall
As do the 8 years of Kubiak
maverick512000
Hall of Fame
Texas Jake
Rookie
Steel's recurring theme has been ownership and their approach is the problem. 17 years of not getting close to a championship could be used to back that premise up. I am not saying that I agree with this. Ownership has made mistakes over the years and hopefully has learned. I don't think ownership is the problem to the extent that SteelB does and believe that a championship is possible with whatever the ownership's philosophy is.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
Actually that has been the last 2-3 years. Previously RS was at fault.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Exactly. Steel is reaching big time with that silly stuff. He's doing that because, he has been called out by several members for basically saying he hope Watson gets hurt behind that atrocious offensive line. Mainly just to prove a point.
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HaveMercy
Passing Through
Really, do you guys actually think anyone here is asking or hoping for DWatson to get hurt just to prove a point? I say No Way. I know hyperbole when l see it. Hey, we're all guilty of shading things with a bit of overstatement from time to time, so as long as something is not vile, hateful, or a character assassination / name calling / personal insult, I'm inclined to cut some slack.
And I NEVER exagerate, not once in a hundred bazillion quadrillion kewdillion years. To the power of 10.
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Texansballer74
The Marine
throwANDREtheBALL
Waterboy
This thread is "State of the O-line"
Its time for some REAL TALK about the actual state of this O-line.
I've heard some people say its not that bad, or they were rated middle of the pack by some random website.
Looking at this realistically. We have 1 out of 5 starters that would start on most other teams. We have 4 guys starting that are backups on an average NFL line.
State of the O-line, before Free Agency and the DRAFT = VERY POOR
State of the O-line, after Free Agency and the DRAFT = VERY POOR
Sad stuff
Its time for some REAL TALK about the actual state of this O-line.
I've heard some people say its not that bad, or they were rated middle of the pack by some random website.
Looking at this realistically. We have 1 out of 5 starters that would start on most other teams. We have 4 guys starting that are backups on an average NFL line.
State of the O-line, before Free Agency and the DRAFT = VERY POOR
State of the O-line, after Free Agency and the DRAFT = VERY POOR
Sad stuff
You have no idea of what the Texans OL will look like in 2019. You have an opinion based on 2018 and your opinion of the two draft picks. That's it. Davenport could possibly make a leap in year 3. Despite STB's opinion, footwork can be improved on and that's Davenport's biggest weakness. The Texans knew they were drafting a project that would take a couple of years to develop. If he does then the Texans could very well be looking at a dominant OL for a few years. I'm pretty confident in Howard and Scharping panning out. If Davenport makes the leap, then you have bookend tackles in Davenport and Howard and move Scharping inside to G. That's a lot of "ifs", but that's what every offseason is about: ifs and buts.
You haven't been around long enough to understand much of anything on here.
Yep, Gaine thought so much of Davenports performance lat yr that he went out and picked OT's in rds 1-2.
What makes you confident in Howard/Scharping panning out other than the Texans selected them?
What's wrong with hedging your bets??
With the number of O-linemen that didn't quite work out - for whatever reason - if I were Gaine I'd keep "fishing" until I got combo that works too.
Nothing, it's actually a smart way to go, considering the putrid OT play last yr.
If they thought Davenport was the future at LT do you think they would've drafted 2 OT's that high?
It's what the Colts did until they finally got all their pieces!
Texansballer74
The Marine
I've been here long enough. And I was on here when Steel made that comment. So move around lil dude.
Yes. Two reasons: (a) The whole line needs upgrading; especially at OT. More top-level picks ought to result in good competition. Those that rise to the top should provide more solid O-line play.
(b) The way Devlin/O'Brien treat the line, who knows where those guys will actually play on the line. Scharping is also being looked at as a OG - or so I heard. I say that to point out that just because they drafted two OTs doesn't mean they'll actually play OT.
Let's face it, the O-line still needs a makeover. And it looks like this year, they're throwing numbers at the problem.
Its worth a shot.
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Just checked the current roster per Our Lads. There are 16 O-linemen listed. They ought to find five decent-to-good ones out of that group. If not someone up the chain of command needs to be shown the door.
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Whole new game now. Luck is able to sit in the pocket & diagnose. No need to play Superman every snap.
But yeah, we're going to sweep them this year.
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